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Post by Tim on Jan 12, 2016 17:59:55 GMT -5
Hey Guys!
We are behind the scenes discussion some options to make our tours more competitive. The biggest problem we are facing at the moment, is people getting "stuck" in a tour or feeling like they will never be competitive where they are currently placed. I had an idea that I proposed to the admin team, but I want to propose to you all as well to get your feedback...
What if..
1. We put in the promotion/demotion rules for ALL TOURS.
2. We enforced all exemptions to play on a higher tour the follow week. No optional exemptions across the board.
3. We add in demotion strikes to PGA/EURO/WEB for missed cuts.
4. If you make cut on pro tours, it clears strikes.
I'm personally on the PGA (barely made it) and I have missed every cut but the minor event. I feel the above would add a little excitement into the mix for me. I mean, I would be fighting to save my card, watching my strikes weekly, and if I couldn't compete I would take my lumps and gladly go down... This way, we are constantly moving the talent pool across ALL TOURS, and not just the bottom ones. With forced exemptions based on play, it allows us to maintain the most competitive fields and gives every player a little more to shoot for and makes it a little more fun.
Don't get me wrong -- we are not making this change tomorrow, and I'm not saying it will ever happen, I just want to hear your thoughts! Do you like it, hate it, have any other ideas?
Feel free to post them here -- we are listening!
Thanks,
Tim
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Post by mrtweek1 on Jan 12, 2016 18:14:49 GMT -5
I like everything about it...perhaps we'll discuss this on the podcast this week...
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Post by mikenym84 on Jan 12, 2016 18:16:55 GMT -5
So for an example, I'm in cc-e and one week you would have everyone in e play for a d spot, everyone In d play for a c spot etc? That would be interesting. I dig it
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Post by Doyley on Jan 12, 2016 18:27:12 GMT -5
So for an example, I'm in cc-e and one week you would have everyone in e play for a d spot, everyone In d play for a c spot etc? That would be interesting. I dig it It would be more like the CC tour's rules expanded to include the pro tours too. Not much would change for the CC tour. |
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Post by Audentior on Jan 12, 2016 18:42:01 GMT -5
I think this is more a question for the Web, Euro and PGA players. As a CC player it sounds good though.
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Post by phoenixjay on Jan 12, 2016 19:05:48 GMT -5
So for an example, I'm in cc-e and one week you would have everyone in e play for a d spot, everyone In d play for a c spot etc? That would be interesting. I dig it It would be more like the CC tour's rules expanded to include the pro tours too. Not much would change for the CC tour. This sounds interesting for the top 3 tours but i would like to add to the list say top 10 get excemptions to the next tour above from all the cc including A and the winner of a tourny gets his card up there, that will add a bit of spice coming to the 4th round in CC-A. Instead of everyone in the promotion zone getting the same thing so its all down to aiming for top 5 as it is at the mo, they will have to plan their rounds carefully if the 1st place gets a card for the web, do you play all 4 straight away and leave it to luck or leave the 4th round till the last day and see what your up against and try to outdo each other and will have a more exciting end to a tourny.  If that is too much then what about if the winner fails to get the top 70 or whatever needed to stay up on that first try, he has say 2 or 3 strikes to get it or drop back down. In my mind, the CC tours are the amateur tours and when the majors come around, like the open and us open in particular, will there be qualifying tournys to allow the lower ranks to get to join the top players in the majors. (If theres already something about this part then ignore this). With the added bonus that if any of the lower ranks can actually make the cut in the major, they automatically get a promotion to the tour above as a reward. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2016 19:09:04 GMT -5
It would certainly add excitement to my euro rounds. Right now there's not much to play for as Mr Sweeney and Mr Garcia are so much better. I've made 5 out of 10 cuts: I think 3 consecutive cuts and you're relegated.
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Post by Doyley on Jan 12, 2016 19:12:03 GMT -5
We'll be adding a dynamic cut line for exemptions and demotions that will be based off a percentage of the player field. So it will handle that part of it much more efficiently. Not sure when it will be ready but once it's in it'll make the leaderboards must-see TV!
Winners getting auto-promoted is on the table and likely to be implemented soon - not sure if it will include Web winners or not at this point
Yes there are Qualifying Tourneys for The Masters and the PGA Championship on the CC schedule - those that make it will have an (A) in the major. The two Opens will have events for all members that didn't automatically qualify.
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Post by phoenixjay on Jan 12, 2016 19:19:09 GMT -5
We'll be adding a dynamic cut line for exemptions and demotions that will be based off a percentage of the player field. So it will handle that part of it much more efficiently. Not sure when it will be ready but once it's in it'll make the leaderboards must-see TV! Winners getting auto-promoted is on the table and likely to be implemented soon - not sure if it will include Web winners or not at this point Yes there are Qualifying Tourneys for The Masters and the PGA Championship on the CC schedule - those that make it will have an (A) in the major. The two Opens will have events for all members that didn't automatically qualify. thats great to hear, thanks doyley. CC-A has a lot of really good players, it will be good to see them fight to the last day. |
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Post by Knock25Out on Jan 12, 2016 19:20:43 GMT -5
I'm all for making it harder as someone who has been on the wrong side of cutlines a lot. I would almost say that you have to make 3/10 cuts to stay on the tour. Almost the same but a little more leeway
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Post by nickweis on Jan 12, 2016 19:30:36 GMT -5
We'll be adding a dynamic cut line for exemptions and demotions that will be based off a percentage of the player field. So it will handle that part of it much more efficiently. Not sure when it will be ready but once it's in it'll make the leaderboards must-see TV! Winners getting auto-promoted is on the table and likely to be implemented soon - not sure if it will include Web winners or not at this point Yes there are Qualifying Tourneys for The Masters and the PGA Championship on the CC schedule - those that make it will have an (A) in the major. The two Opens will have events for all members that didn't automatically qualify. This is interesting. I am currently on the Euro tour and probably don't belong there. I have made 1 of 7 cuts so far I believe, and 3 or 4 of those missed cuts were by a stroke or two. For someone who is this close to the bubble I would really like to see an improvement to the leaderboards if I am in danger of getting demoted. I like playing my rounds earlier in the week, and it pains me to sit back and wait for others to post scores. As a player who earned a pro card in Q school I can't really speak for those who had to battle their way up the ranks to get a pro card, but maybe for them 3 strikes might be a bit harsh to loose a pro card after working so hard to get to that point. Maybe considering something like money ranking or world golf ranking in addition to missing 3 straight cuts . For example having a WGR better than 500 would mean you can't drop bellow web, while someone with a WGR better than 300 would be safe in the Euro or PGA. just throwing around ideas. |
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Post by pyates on Jan 12, 2016 19:34:33 GMT -5
I really like this idea, as a web player last year it was nearly impossible to move up, now I'm on the Euro tour I've basically made it... No real threat of losing my card, but keeping it should be tough, it should be an achievement. Of course in real life people need stability as they have families at home so tour cards have to be a more permanent fixture, but a year in the life of a game is a long time
I tend to make most cuts on the euro, but add in more and more of the top web guys and filter out more and more of the lower euro/pga guys that will only get harder. Bring on the challenge I say
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Post by mcbogga on Jan 12, 2016 19:50:49 GMT -5
Not a fan simply because I think one of the key "values" of TGCT is that it follows in many ways the real world structure. Don't see the longer time periods as an issue but rather a strength. Keeps it from being just another gaming league.
Not like we have full fields on the Euro tour as is.
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Post by bogeyman on Jan 12, 2016 19:53:17 GMT -5
Don't see why not. It works pretty well in CC.
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Post by Doyley on Jan 12, 2016 19:53:37 GMT -5
We'll be adding a dynamic cut line for exemptions and demotions that will be based off a percentage of the player field. So it will handle that part of it much more efficiently. Not sure when it will be ready but once it's in it'll make the leaderboards must-see TV! |
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