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Post by pc17 on Aug 26, 2020 14:32:19 GMT -5
For me either pro or master are the most realistic levels. I haven't tried anything above or below those. Legend sounds like it would make weekend hackers out of everyone, but the beginner levels would make the game too easy. Anything that prevents ridiculous low scores I'm all for. Events would be much more fun with the majority of the field scoring across a 10-15 shot range over the whole 4 rounds because you'd feel like you're in with a chance longer into the event, instead of the birdie fests for the top 10 and more realistic scores for the rest. If you didn't shoot -15 or something in the first round you didn't have a hope in hell of getting anywhere near the top. Kinda made playing the rest of the event redundant. That was across all societies I played in though, not just tgc tours. As long as the swing tempo is consistent, I'm happy to use master clubs and be around par most rounds, so if there is an issue with it hopefully it gets fixed soon. When I said above that I felt Amateur, Am/Pro were the most realistic, I was referring to those levels, to watching Pro's on TV. I found I was still hitting a fair number of fast/slow swings even at this level. But it was the amount your ball travelled off line that I felt was the most realistic. Any level above these two settings the tempo becomes a lottery, and watching short iron shots flying yards off line, is not realistic at all. This is the only part of the game I get frustrated with. |
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Post by twofor22 on Aug 26, 2020 15:56:24 GMT -5
For me either pro or master are the most realistic levels. I haven't tried anything above or below those. Legend sounds like it would make weekend hackers out of everyone, but the beginner levels would make the game too easy. Anything that prevents ridiculous low scores I'm all for. Events would be much more fun with the majority of the field scoring across a 10-15 shot range over the whole 4 rounds because you'd feel like you're in with a chance longer into the event, instead of the birdie fests for the top 10 and more realistic scores for the rest. If you didn't shoot -15 or something in the first round you didn't have a hope in hell of getting anywhere near the top. Kinda made playing the rest of the event redundant. That was across all societies I played in though, not just tgc tours. As long as the swing tempo is consistent, I'm happy to use master clubs and be around par most rounds, so if there is an issue with it hopefully it gets fixed soon. When I said above that I felt Amateur, Am/Pro were the most realistic, I was referring to those levels, to watching Pro's on TV. I found I was still hitting a fair number of fast/slow swings even at this level. But it was the amount your ball travelled off line that I felt was the most realistic. Any level above these two settings the tempo becomes a lottery, and watching short iron shots flying yards off line, is not realistic at all. This is the only part of the game I get frustrated with. Yeah, I had that issue at first but the more I play it, the fewer of those wild off line shots I'm hitting. Just takes time to get used to the new swing mechanics. I had another thought the other day that if they wanted it even more realistic they could just do away with the different club difficulties altogether and start everyone on hacker level. As you play and practice more and gain experience, the perfect zone increases and it gradually gets easier to hit more straight shots. Even if the swing plane doesn't increase, it should be easier to hit the right tempo as you get more skilled, but I suppose it kinda works like that anyway if you start on master and try to get used to it. Or, at least have it as an option. That's what it's like in real life...I started playing again in January and naturally was pretty bad, over 100 every round. My best round so far was a +15 87 a couple of weeks ago, and I'm getting more consistent strikes. I can see both sides I suppose. Playing on a pro tour you should be hitting pretty accurately the majority of the time, but you also should be more highly skilled than the average punter. I guess they're trying to find the right combination of the two, and I think master clubs are probably the right choice. It was a bit daunting at first but already in a few rounds I'm seeing improvement. |
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Post by YouStayClassySanDiego on Aug 26, 2020 16:19:06 GMT -5
Yeah, I had that issue at first but the more I play it, the fewer of those wild off line shots I'm hitting. Just takes time to get used to the new swing mechanics. I had another thought the other day that if they wanted it even more realistic they could just do away with the different club difficulties altogether and start everyone on hacker level. As you play and practice more and gain experience, the perfect zone increases and it gradually gets easier to hit more straight shots. Even if the swing plane doesn't increase, it should be easier to hit the right tempo as you get more skilled, but I suppose it kinda works like that anyway if you start on master and try to get used to it. Or, at least have it as an option. That's what it's like in real life...I started playing again in January and naturally was pretty bad, over 100 every round. My best round so far was a +15 87 a couple of weeks ago, and I'm getting more consistent strikes. I can see both sides I suppose. Playing on a pro tour you should be hitting pretty accurately the majority of the time, but you also should be more highly skilled than the average punter. I guess they're trying to find the right combination of the two, and I think master clubs are probably the right choice. It was a bit daunting at first but already in a few rounds I'm seeing improvement. Yeah, that's a cool idea. Doesn't work out as well in practice though, as it makes the playing field heavily tilted in favor of those who can play all the time. In other games, such as Destiny, which I've been playing forever, this used to be part of the race to complete new events as the Worlds First. The eventually put a cap on things so that you couldn't grind your way to victory by simply being able to out 'level up' your competition. I doubt we'd see anything quite to that level, but we'd still have a tournament playing field where those who can play a lot would have a pretty significant advantage on those who might have to work 50-60 or more hours per week, let alone spend time with your family, on the course IRL, etc. |
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Post by bahnzo on Aug 26, 2020 19:33:58 GMT -5
Ok, after watching your video I was interested to see you have a somewhat different experience than I do. I noticed that when your swing was missing the Perfect you had calibrated, it was often in different places. It misses, but still is just a little slow or fast. That's not what I am experiencing at all. I recorded a video to show it, but the quick version is like I posted above. I get a perfect swing most times, but then I get a fast swing, and it seems as if it's the *exact* same fast swing each time. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2020 19:53:36 GMT -5
Ok, after watching your video I was interested to see you have a somewhat different experience than I do. I noticed that when your swing was missing the Perfect you had calibrated, it was often in different places. It misses, but still is just a little slow or fast. That's not what I am experiencing at all. I recorded a video to show it, but the quick version is like I posted above. I get a perfect swing most times, but then I get a fast swing, and it seems as if it's the *exact* same fast swing each time. Yes! I'm either hitting fast, perfect or slow in the exact same spot. I'm wondering if it's a controller issue |
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Post by bahnzo on Aug 26, 2020 23:33:34 GMT -5
Ok, after watching your video I was interested to see you have a somewhat different experience than I do. I noticed that when your swing was missing the Perfect you had calibrated, it was often in different places. It misses, but still is just a little slow or fast. That's not what I am experiencing at all. I recorded a video to show it, but the quick version is like I posted above. I get a perfect swing most times, but then I get a fast swing, and it seems as if it's the *exact* same fast swing each time. Yes! I'm either hitting fast, perfect or slow in the exact same spot. I'm wondering if it's a controller issue Are you using a mouse? Or a controller? |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2020 23:44:52 GMT -5
Yes! I'm either hitting fast, perfect or slow in the exact same spot. I'm wondering if it's a controller issue Are you using a mouse? Or a controller? Controller |
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Post by tippy2k on Aug 29, 2020 12:58:33 GMT -5
Well I got one day of somewhat consistent play and now we're right back to the RNG determining where my shot goes...
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Post by tippy2k on Aug 29, 2020 18:35:11 GMT -5
...seriously, somebody has to know the secret to making this game less absolute horseshit on Master Club settings, right? Like...there has to be SOMEONE out there who can actually, consistently hit Perfect shots with the Master Clubs, right?
When I look online at Twitch streamers trying to find someone, anyone using Master clubs, they're a rare breed. The few that I have found that actually use these clubs are all over the damn place as well so this feels like it's not just me at this point. I just did my own "practice" experiment where I did nothing but sit at the tee box in "practice" swinging. Got a lot of fasts, got a lot of slows, a handful of verys on both ends; not one @!$#ing perfect in a ten minute practice try...
Statistically, I should have accidentally swung perfectly in ten @!$#ing minutes.
So someone, anyone, anyone at all, what the flying @!$# is the secret to actually being consistent with the damn Master Clubs because so far, I have yet to find anything from anyone. 2K doesn't say jack sh%$ on their end so I honestly at this point have no idea if maybe there's a secret mechanic that we're not aware of that allows you to actually swing the Master Clubs with any kind of consistency...
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Post by bahnzo on Aug 29, 2020 19:13:05 GMT -5
Here's what I'm now doing. Set Masters overall difficulty, and turn off the Swing Timing setting. Then change the Swing Difficulty to Legend.
Removing the swing timing from the game while making the swing plane harder had made the game much more fun for me. It's still difficult, but at the same time seems much more fair than the way it is now.
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Post by joegolferg on Aug 30, 2020 5:51:48 GMT -5
The tempo consistency in this game is actually very impressive AND very consistent.
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Post by Generic_Casual on Aug 30, 2020 6:25:49 GMT -5
Figure out that your backswing and downswing have absolutely ZERO to do with one another.
Seriously.
Tempo is based on transition.
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Post by bohemianmeme on Aug 31, 2020 9:06:05 GMT -5
...seriously, somebody has to know the secret to making this game less absolute horseshit on Master Club settings, right? Like...there has to be SOMEONE out there who can actually, consistently hit Perfect shots with the Master Clubs, right? When I look online at Twitch streamers trying to find someone, anyone using Master clubs, they're a rare breed. The few that I have found that actually use these clubs are all over the damn place as well so this feels like it's not just me at this point. I just did my own "practice" experiment where I did nothing but sit at the tee box in "practice" swinging. Got a lot of fasts, got a lot of slows, a handful of verys on both ends; not one @!$#ing perfect in a ten minute practice try... Statistically, I should have accidentally swung perfectly in ten @!$#ing minutes. So someone, anyone, anyone at all, what the flying @!$# is the secret to actually being consistent with the damn Master Clubs because so far, I have yet to find anything from anyone. 2K doesn't say jack sh%$ on their end so I honestly at this point have no idea if maybe there's a secret mechanic that we're not aware of that allows you to actually swing the Master Clubs with any kind of consistency... Have you looked at the leaderboard for the last platinum event? Scores are indicative that some of us know where the ball is going. That is an indication that the rest of us had better figure out how they did it. You are just mindlessly saying the same thing over and again. It doesn't make said statement more true. You and you cultish gaggle of malcontents will just have to try something different- you know, like sane folks. |
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Post by bohemianmeme on Aug 31, 2020 9:13:21 GMT -5
I don't know if the servers got more stable, if there was a shadow adjustment to everything, or if somehow I am actually just getting better but it went far better and was far more consistent today. I had bad shots but I could generally tell what I did wrong instead of just feeling like a RNG decided if my shot was piss poor or not. Played three rounds today, was +1, -4, and -2 respectively, which was far better than the +14s I had been getting yesterday... Ya , man. There hasn't been enough focus on this. I have an Rx 590 graphics card, which I erroneously thought was plenty good for medium settings. Not in this game. I just turned shadows and water to off, etc. Shut OFF vsnyc AND GET AN FPS custom setting app like rivatunerstatistics to set framerate IF YOU DON'T GET 144 hz EASILY AND your monitor supports it. Otherwise, you are unstable in frames. This stability seems to give a bit more feedback as to the momentum of the club as it relates to my fingers. How far do we lower frame rate to accommodate high graphics? If graphics are too low, I have trouble reading greens and have to use the grid. If frames are low, maybe my swing isn't as responsive. |
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Post by fadgewacker on Aug 31, 2020 14:36:44 GMT -5
Here's what I'm now doing. Set Masters overall difficulty, and turn off the Swing Timing setting. Then change the Swing Difficulty to Legend. Removing the swing timing from the game while making the swing plane harder had made the game much more fun for me. It's still difficult, but at the same time seems much more fair than the way it is now. So, in order to feel like it's fair, you're turning off tempo... Am i understanding that correctly? Not sure how that will help you prep to play on tour, but whatever floats your boat. tippy2k There are loads of people enjoying the game, and understanding it's just bloody difficult, but finding ways to work with the tempo... Tip 1, do not EXPECT to hit perfect tempo every time. Play for the areas of the green that will leave you a decent look at a putt, and split the difference between perfect and slightly fast / slow (whichever is your preference). If you hit a red fast / slow, you'll be further away that is ideal... but that's just tough sh%$... That's golf. Nobody, and I mean nobody, will legitimately hit all, or most of their shots perfect, so unless you're going to be the greatest video game golfer in the world overnight, get used to it, and try to allow for a favoured miss in your gameplay. |
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