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Post by SweetTeeBag on Aug 3, 2015 12:33:22 GMT -5
What is the connection between identifying straight shooters with data and people getting less than 100% on swings? You've lost me. I don't think the straight shooter API is working to be honest.
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Post by eMLBCommish on Aug 3, 2015 13:21:33 GMT -5
James, with all due respect, your perception of how things work and our relationship with HB is completely incorrect. Then, with all due respect, enlighten us on how things work, and your relationship to HB. I think it's very fair to say the voice of this community is well heard by HB, as it serves a certain % of their market share, no? They'd be ridiculous not to respect the feelings of this community. So please feel free to help us understand. Until then, I'm inclined to agree with those I've shared that our straight shooting paranoia has caused part of the bugs the game has within it. It is ONLY an opinion, but I'm never opposed to a healthy factual debate. Don't come at me (bro) like I'm speaking fightin' words.
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Post by SmilingGoats on Aug 3, 2015 14:56:56 GMT -5
I guess what I'm trying to say is that there are a few select people who seem to think we dictate to HB what we want and that's what HB spends its time on...and that's not at all how it works. The straightshooter data was always something the HB planned to include in the API and we've made no secret that we've been testing the API for them. But it's not like we say "We want this" and they spend all their time on it. They've got one guy that worked on the API and it's a side project for him at that. We report back what we see if and they determine if changes are needed, and they get to them when/if they have time. That's all there is to it.
It was this sentence in particular that I think is so off base "Maybe catering too much to one specific set of voices (namely TGCTours), than sticking to game plans assumedly in place for progress of the product."
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Post by eMLBCommish on Aug 3, 2015 15:19:16 GMT -5
I guess what I'm trying to say is that there are a few select people who seem to think we dictate to HB what we want and that's what HB spends its time on...and that's not at all how it works. The straightshooter data was always something the HB planned to include in the API and we've made no secret that we've been testing the API for them. But it's not like we say "We want this" and they spend all their time on it. They've got one guy that worked on the API and it's a side project for him at that. We report back what we see if and they determine if changes are needed, and they get to them when/if they have time. That's all there is to it. It was this sentence in particular that I think is so off base "Maybe catering too much to one specific set of voices (namely TGCTours), than sticking to game plans assumedly in place for progress of the product." And, as I re-elaborated, what I said is this community is a decent % of market share. They'd be wrong to ignore the community. There is "A" level of influence and feedback there, regardless of what you try to state.
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Post by SmilingGoats on Aug 3, 2015 15:22:52 GMT -5
I'm not arguing that. I'm saying that we do not dictate what HB works on nor do I believe TGCtours.com has distracted HB Studios in any way from progressing the game as THEY want to, which was the perception you opined that I believe is incorrect.
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Post by Brighttail on Aug 3, 2015 15:25:51 GMT -5
I guess what I'm trying to say is that there are a few select people who seem to think we dictate to HB what we want and that's what HB spends its time on...and that's not at all how it works. The straightshooter data was always something the HB planned to include in the API and we've made no secret that we've been testing the API for them. But it's not like we say "We want this" and they spend all their time on it. They've got one guy that worked on the API and it's a side project for him at that. We report back what we see if and they determine if changes are needed, and they get to them when/if they have time. That's all there is to it. It was this sentence in particular that I think is so off base "Maybe catering too much to one specific set of voices (namely TGCTours), than sticking to game plans assumedly in place for progress of the product." And, as I re-elaborated, what I said is this community is a decent % of market share. They'd be wrong to ignore the community. There is "A" level of influence and feedback there, regardless of what you try to state. You might be incorrect with this community being a decent % of market share. More often than not in games like this the overwhelming market share are those that will have never heard of TGC Tours. That being said, I think HB recognizes the work and dedication put into this site and they realize that TGC Tours is providing a competitive environment in a way that they do not have either the time or inclination to nurture. Giving us the API and other items that they ALREADY have set up is nothing major to them, they already have the information. Just good community service.
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Post by eMLBCommish on Aug 3, 2015 16:08:38 GMT -5
Anywho, I understand my comments are being seen as a slight, when it is more my opinion that HB values the efforts of the TGCT Staff and certainly reviews it. Apologies if it was taken out of context. The English language is complex enough, now try to interpret it without vocal tone, and just words on the screen. There was a cap tip in the message.
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Post by edi_vedder on Aug 3, 2015 19:11:50 GMT -5
Okay, good... seems to be resolved now.
Anyhow, I'd still be (very) interested in the actual state of affairs with those members being declared as straight shooters.
What did you see in last weeks tourneys? What's with the guys from the week before, where the data might have not been correct? Any progress on this topic?
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Post by SmilingGoats on Aug 3, 2015 21:25:37 GMT -5
I believe we disqualified one player. Doyley would know better as he handled it. But that player has been clean since. I'll let Doyley correct me on that if I'm wrong. Other than that, everyone else is looking good.
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Post by randy on Aug 31, 2015 6:12:29 GMT -5
Smillygoats not true at all,
I have nothing to hide here by what im about to say,
I was 1 of the few that got pinned for str8 shooting an Im going to tell you all the truth as to what I did,
I did not read the rules (my bad) about straight shooting, I bought logitech rumbble pad an I turned the X axis to 0 an hit the ball straight an was caut on the 3rd hole, an then was notified about it by via e-mail an got a 1 week suspension an was told strike number 1 an if i was caut again I was going to be band for life, ok fine I totally understand, I really enjoy this game an community, you guys do a fabulous job here, having said Im not going to risk lossing my membership here by doing it again ok,
So I went out an bought a logitech MX518 mouse ok..got the softwear for it an was able to turn the X axis down as low as it would go which is 200 dpi an edged my shots which hits the ball preaty straight, so if thats still consitered cheating then we need the powers to be here tell us all what we can an cannot use for a device
I really liked what Wendy had to say in an earlyer post, about her using just a standard mouse an was told she was cheating???
If you feel the need to band me for life then so be it, but for the future of this game, we all need to be told what can we or cannot use in terms of a device? because hitting the ball straight is only half the battle in this game, Its putting an the wind an we all now how hard that is to do.
best regards Randy
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Post by SweetTeeBag on Aug 31, 2015 7:28:47 GMT -5
Smillygoats not true at all, I have nothing to hide here by what im about to say, I was 1 of the few that got pinned for str8 shooting an Im going to tell you all the truth as to what I did, I did not read the rules (my bad) about straight shooting, I bought logitech rumbble pad an I turned the X axis to 0 an hit the ball straight an was caut on the 3rd hole, an then was notified about it by via e-mail an got a 1 week suspension an was told strike number 1 an if i was caut again I was going to be band for life, ok fine I totally understand, I really enjoy this game an community, you guys do a fabulous job here, having said Im not going to risk lossing my membership here by doing it again ok, So I went out an bought a logitech MX518 mouse ok..got the softwear for it an was able to turn the X axis down as low as it would go which is 200 dpi an edged my shots which hits the ball preaty straight, so if thats still consitered cheating then we need the powers to be here tell us all what we can an cannot use for a device I really liked what Wendy had to say in an earlyer post, about her using just a standard mouse an was told she was cheating??? If you feel the need to band me for life then so be it, but for the future of this game, we all need to be told what can we or cannot use in terms of a device? because hitting the ball straight is only half the battle in this game, Its putting an the wind an we all now how hard that is to do. best regards Randy If your edging your shots that's certainly not good sportsmanship.
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Post by firstblitzer on Aug 31, 2015 8:08:46 GMT -5
It is called cheating.
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Post by sevekeve on Aug 31, 2015 9:32:25 GMT -5
Randy, you need to purchase an xbox 360 wired controller, plug it in and play this game the way it was meant to be played. After you WORK through the learning curve you will never have to worry about being banned again. Messing around with the x axis is cheating, edging a mouse is cheating. Its that simple.
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Post by blackaces13 on Aug 31, 2015 9:43:05 GMT -5
Sounds like the system is working.
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Post by Airik3333 on Aug 31, 2015 11:23:44 GMT -5
The world we live in.. No integrity in sports anymore.. Folks are getting paid under the table by shoe companies to attend a certain university for a certain coach.. Baseball players have been caught juicing.. Man, that football is flat.. The one sport where integity still comes into play is golf.. A sport of gentlemen.. If you double hit a ball in real life you count it as two shots.. It happens on a lot of wedge shots.. I grew up playing golf with my dad.. No mulligans.. No touch (unless the course conditions required it) and I was taught to keep and turn in a proper score.. Cheating in golf to me is totally unacceptable..
But on the other hand I was also taught that when someone tells you to "put them down for a five" even though you know they had a 7.. You do it without question.. My dad said that if the other guy puts down a wrong score.. That is his problem.. Play your own ball.. No, I dont think TGC should turn the other cheek if people are cheating.. Hitting the ball straight down the fairway in this game should not be a given.. I was playing with ghost ball BigTallChris (very good player) and I saw him hit a horrible hook off the tee at Mistwood.. He shot like 30 under for the tourney but even he hit a horrid shot.. I also hit a bad hook on the hole with the mounds on the left.. Got a kick right then bounced off the cart path into the middle of the fairway.. Got a birdie... haha..
Either play the game the right and proper way or dont play it at all.. Too many guys struggle to hit fairways and greens.. This game would be a lot less stressful and you would score a lot better if you were 100% sure you were going to hit the perfect straight shot everytime.. I totally jacked up a hole in the tounrey this week.. Rough to rough to to trap to double bogey..
So yes, Drop the tweaked mouse/controller and get a normal controller and play the game like the rest of us.. Please..
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