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Post by Mitchblue on Jun 20, 2015 14:56:30 GMT -5
I want candy.
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Post by flamingoboot on Jun 20, 2015 17:49:50 GMT -5
i apologize.... i realize some guys are just good and have that it factor in analog based golf games....
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2015 22:38:33 GMT -5
I didn't even realize how you could cheat on this game until I read this thread. I just don't see the point of cheating to win. If your life is to the point that you actively cheat to win a fake online trophy, you need professional help...not that fake online trophy.
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Post by CGilb on Jun 21, 2015 1:15:34 GMT -5
I don't believe anyone in the top 20+ are cheating in any way
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Post by mav78 on Jun 21, 2015 7:02:03 GMT -5
I dont think anyone is. im sure there are a few.hori pads on the main game who know no better.
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Post by NCFCRulz on Jun 21, 2015 7:28:00 GMT -5
I dont think anyone is. im sure there are a few.hori pads on the main game who know no better. Every single person on here in the top 20 knows the policy regarding hori controllers. I would dare say everyone in the top 100 do
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2015 10:12:55 GMT -5
In my opinion, wind waiting and ghost ball usage in a tournament is a form of cheating.
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Post by blackaces13 on Jun 21, 2015 13:00:09 GMT -5
In my opinion, wind waiting and ghost ball usage in a tournament is a form of cheating. Cheating is a strong word, particularly in golf. Wind waiting is the unfortunate result of incentivizing bad behavior. When you have a flawed system, people will exploit it, it is inevitable. The focus should be on fixing the system, not those who exploit it. I continue to be extremely disappointed that HB had effectively solved this problem, they fixed the system, and have decided to revert back to a broken system. Each week my frustration grows. As for the ghost balls, I don't have much of a problem with them. Golf is played with other players, their shots can be seen by their playing partners. That said, I wouldn't mind the slightest bit if they were banned for tournament play. I don't think they affect play very much at all at the moment.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2015 13:52:05 GMT -5
In my opinion, wind waiting and ghost ball usage in a tournament is a form of cheating. Cheating is a strong word, particularly in golf. Wind waiting is the unfortunate result of incentivizing bad behavior. When you have a flawed system, people will exploit it, it is inevitable. The focus should be on fixing the system, not those who exploit it. I continue to be extremely disappointed that HB had effectively solved this problem, they fixed the system, and have decided to revert back to a broken system. Each week my frustration grows. As for the ghost balls, I don't have much of a problem with them. Golf is played with other players, their shots can be seen by their playing partners. That said, I wouldn't mind the slightest bit if they were banned for tournament play. I don't think they affect play very much at all at the moment. You cannot compare this game environment to that of real world golf ... especially in a so-called Tournament style format. In the real world, you play with up to 3 other players. You're in a turn order controlled system. You do not get the opportunity every hole (unless you're the worse player in the 4-some) to set back and wait for all the others hit their ghost animation while looking at the overhead layout of that hole, then decide where you wish to hit. That is taking advantage of a game exploit, it's unsportsmanlike ... and while it may fall short of "Cheating" ... it still fall into a cheat by definition ... Bottom line it golf, and golf is a man vs. course competition. And in this game it should be limited to all things equal, the only variable being the skills of each individual on any given day - over the four rounds without using any unfair advantages to gain favor over the field. Does this mean its ok, because everyone can do the same thing. No. It is suppose to be a game of integrity & honor ... and should be played as such. Some, maybe, a lot of you may hold the opposite view ... and see nothing wrong with it. I grew up under a different set morals. Maybe its a generation gap, or my age, or my military upbringing and over 20 plus years, serving & working in an military environment. It teaches you a higher standard of doing things and the repercussions of not following those expectations. This has shaped my attitude on life and everything I have accomplished. I march to a different drummer. Even if It's the same tune. LOL
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Post by smurfblade88 on Jun 21, 2015 14:52:32 GMT -5
Cheating is a strong word, particularly in golf. Wind waiting is the unfortunate result of incentivizing bad behavior. When you have a flawed system, people will exploit it, it is inevitable. The focus should be on fixing the system, not those who exploit it. I continue to be extremely disappointed that HB had effectively solved this problem, they fixed the system, and have decided to revert back to a broken system. Each week my frustration grows. As for the ghost balls, I don't have much of a problem with them. Golf is played with other players, their shots can be seen by their playing partners. That said, I wouldn't mind the slightest bit if they were banned for tournament play. I don't think they affect play very much at all at the moment. You cannot compare this game environment to that of real world golf ... especially in a so-called Tournament style format. In the real world, you play with up to 3 other players. You're in a turn order controlled system. You do not get the opportunity every hole (unless you're the worse player in the 4-some) to set back and wait for all the others hit their ghost animation while looking at the overhead layout of that hole, then decide where you wish to hit. That is taking advantage of a game exploit, it's unsportsmanlike ... and while it may fall short of "Cheating" ... it still fall into a cheat by definition ... Bottom line it golf, and golf is a man vs. course competition. And in this game it should be limited to all things equal, the only variable being the skills of each individual on any given day - over the four rounds without using any unfair advantages to gain favor over the field. Does this mean its ok, because everyone can do the same thing. No. It is suppose to be a game of integrity & honor ... and should be played as such. Some, maybe, a lot of you may hold the opposite view ... and see nothing wrong with it. I grew up under a different set morals. Maybe its a generation gap, or my age, or my military upbringing and over 20 plus years, serving & working in an military environment. It teaches you a higher standard of doing things and the repercussions of not following those expectations. This has shaped my attitude on life and everything I have accomplished. I march to a different drummer. Even if It's the same tune. LOL Agree wit this entirely.
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Post by blackaces13 on Jun 21, 2015 15:14:38 GMT -5
I couldn't care less about ghost balls. Their impact on tournaments is negligible.
The real issue is the wind. It is ruining tournaments by rewarding players with the time and inclination to wait for the most favorable conditions. They have already created and released a workable solution and then discarded it citing only the thinnest of justifications.
A fair system of wind needs to be brought back. This is where any fair minded individual should be focusing their attention, not on worrying about morality.
You can fix a broken system, but you'll never fix people.
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Post by Brighttail on Jun 21, 2015 21:05:11 GMT -5
There will be a wind system in place hopefully with the next update. As for wind waiting, I always viewed it as part of the game we play. There are very few players I know of that would tee off in 18 mph winds and play a tournament, unless they were under time constraints. To do so while honourable, is a bit silly when most of your competition would come back and play another day. Of course wind waiting can come up and bite you like it did a few in the match play tourney. People were waiting for their opponent to play and by the time they needed to play they were up against the clock and had to play in whatever wind was given them.
Technically you could say the use of any of the helping items like wind meeter, distance meters, overhead cam shots of the green, ghost balls, slope indicators, ect are a form of cheating since the pro don't have any of these. At the best they can throw up tufts of grass and get an fairly good estimation of yardage.
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Post by dlw1964 on Jun 22, 2015 6:47:06 GMT -5
Heard rumors of players using a titan one devise to cheat. Decided to get one. I was able to eliminate the x axis on my PS4 controller and hit every shot, I mean every shot dead straight. But it won't pass a tgc test every shot line dead straight.
This titan one devise will definitely come in handy with playing the new Rory game. This devise is a lot better than the hori controller.
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Post by pyates on Jun 22, 2015 7:05:47 GMT -5
Heard rumors of players using a titan one devise to cheat. Decided to get one. I was able to eliminate the x axis on my PS4 controller and hit every shot, I mean every shot dead straight. But it won't pass a tgc test every shot line dead straight. This titan one devise will definitely come in handy with playing the new Rory game. This devise is a lot better than the hori controller. Sorry I'm struggling to see where the fun is with hitting it dead straight each time... If that is the norm on the pga game then what is the point in playing it? Shot decision is part of the game... But come on surely the uncertainty of execution/skill is what makes it golf?
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Post by rod81simo on Jun 22, 2015 7:07:51 GMT -5
Heard rumors of players using a titan one devise to cheat. Decided to get one. I was able to eliminate the x axis on my PS4 controller and hit every shot, I mean every shot dead straight. But it won't pass a tgc test every shot line dead straight. This titan one devise will definitely come in handy with playing the new Rory game. This devise is a lot better than the hori controller. If that's how you want to compete then that's your prerogative I guess. I don't think we need those comments here tho. This is a well moderated and a great bunch of guys that we play with, who all compete fairly. I guess I'm just dissapointed DLW for you as now eyebrows could be raised when you perform well again, like did you plug it in on certain situations to enhance your chances? I hope not but that's the corner you have out yourself in now..... what drives you in all seriousness tho to feel the need and then be satisfied that you are going to be playing with one on the new Rory game??? I don't get it like others have queried about those devices. You can play you've proven that but if that's what it's gonna take to compete on Rory then I'm out of that one for sure. All the best to you there
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