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Post by Demonondalinks on Jun 2, 2024 10:03:06 GMT -5
I have been playing TGC 2K games now for 9 years now. My overall preference is Legend no aids and the TAN society overall satisfies me. This style of play I am a top 10 player in TAN.
However, the tours setup is also a fine way to play (I've only played 2 tourneys this season) but I do play 2 societies on xbox with tour settings. Most of the top xboxer's also play in these societies and overall I am in awe of their scores.
I don't think I am making much of a point here other than play how you like to play the game and just and enjoy it. Yes, overall TAN is a bit hardcore for most and judging by the LB's it is a very small group of players compared to TGC tours.
I believe TGC tours does a heck of a job satisfying the competitive needs of 99.5% of their members. Thankfully, the forums get the other .5% by viewing other societies like TAN.
Thanks to all the admins in TGC tours and TAN who keep this going.
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Post by OldManGaming606 on Jun 2, 2024 12:38:28 GMT -5
OldManGaming606 in my opinion and it is just that it’s not a complaint, but if you want to have a serious competitive scene that’s even slightly realistic ( and most may not, which is fine obviously) then yeah I think you have to have no green grids and no marker. We’ve all played this game so long now grids are essentially putt preview when coupled with the precision of the marker and vibration distance control. Dude, I was just messing with you. I am fully aware of where you stand. |
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Post by Craig / Hendomedes on Jun 2, 2024 12:58:13 GMT -5
OldManGaming606 in my opinion and it is just that it’s not a complaint, but if you want to have a serious competitive scene that’s even slightly realistic ( and most may not, which is fine obviously) then yeah I think you have to have no green grids and no marker. We’ve all played this game so long now grids are essentially putt preview when coupled with the precision of the marker and vibration distance control. Dude, I was just messing with you. I am fully aware of where you stand. Gotcha. Thought my point had gotten lost in the ramble  |
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Post by BillySastard976 on Jun 2, 2024 13:40:01 GMT -5
My problem with the Platinum tour, and it may only be my problem and nobody else's, is boredom. It seemed that week after week very high winds were expected, and as I say I got bored/frustrated with the same old thing.
I got a second place in Platinum this year and maybe another top ten etc, so I could compete reasonably successfully, but the enjoyment just wasn't there for me.
I feel that this over- reliance on extreme wind to make things tough, and not really having the time or inclination to practice playing such conditions took, for me, enjoyment out of the game.
To the op, its my opinion that 'talent' is a small factor. Anyone can play a computer game well once factors have been worked out ( club distances, loft, shot types and expected consistent outcomes ) the talent really comes with putting, in my opinion. Some people just don't putt well.
I would like to see regular putting contests. This for each tour every week, with promotion and demotion.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2024 14:26:40 GMT -5
My problem with the Platinum tour, and it may only be my problem and nobody else's, is boredom. It seemed that week after week very high winds were expected, and as I say I got bored/frustrated with the same old thing. I got a second place in Platinum this year and maybe another top ten etc, so I could compete reasonably successfully, but the enjoyment just wasn't there for me. I feel that this over- reliance on extreme wind to make things tough, and not really having the time or inclination to practice playing such conditions took, for me, enjoyment out of the game. To the op, its my opinion that 'talent' is a small factor. Anyone can play a computer game well once factors have been worked out ( club distances, loft, shot types and expected consistent outcomes ) the talent really comes with putting, in my opinion. Some people just don't putt well. I would like to see regular putting contests. This for each tour every week, with promotion and demotion. You could say that about the real game of golf as putting is the hardest part of the game of golf by some distance. You will be surprised how few putts are actually holed from over 10 foot by the pros on the PGA Tour . No grids really kind of represents the skill of putting in this video game. Yeah it's a little bit easier than what the pros face but I wouldn't say there is a big gap. Never played a golf game before where putting is so well implemented, it is insanely good. |
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Post by longpole on Jun 5, 2024 4:00:06 GMT -5
I've just been promoted to platinum Tour for the 1st time in 7 years playing this game . Are all the courses that cartoonee , silly slopes , high winds to try and keep scores down and to top it off I've heard a lot of bottom end plat players don't even finish to avoid demo marks . Wow . Well I've got there that will do I think I've achieved what I wanted to do . Thank you
Yes would like to see a change with difficulty, whether it's swing difficulty or a few aids off to stop the mathematical side off it . That way you could tone down on these silly fantasy courses and shove some realistic ones in with reasonable conditions
Also would love to see a tour like TAN with separate world rankings . Like to see some of these so called top boys come out of there shells and show us how to play it on more realistic settings instead of, count wind count boxes count grids , move marker and relying on vibration to tell you when to hit shot or putt . Think your be surprised how many peeps would enjoy that tbh .
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Post by blueblood1995 on Jun 5, 2024 4:32:04 GMT -5
I've just been promoted to platinum Tour for the 1st time in 7 years playing this game . Are all the courses that cartoonee , silly slopes , high winds to try and keep scores down and to top it off I've heard a lot of bottom end plat players don't even finish to avoid demo marks . Wow . Well I've got there that will do I think I've achieved what I wanted to do . Thank you Yes would like to see a change with difficulty, whether it's swing difficulty or a few aids off to stop the mathematical side off it . That way you could tone down on these silly fantasy courses and shove some realistic ones in with reasonable conditions Also would love to see a tour like TAN with separate world rankings . Like to see some of these so called top boys come out of there shells and show us how to play it on more realistic settings instead of, count wind count boxes count grids , move marker and relying on vibration to tell you when to hit shot or putt . Think your be surprised how many peeps would enjoy that tbh . Here here... and good luck !! |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2024 4:43:11 GMT -5
I've just been promoted to platinum Tour for the 1st time in 7 years playing this game . Are all the courses that cartoonee , silly slopes , high winds to try and keep scores down and to top it off I've heard a lot of bottom end plat players don't even finish to avoid demo marks . Wow . Well I've got there that will do I think I've achieved what I wanted to do . Thank you Yes would like to see a change with difficulty, whether it's swing difficulty or a few aids off to stop the mathematical side off it . That way you could tone down on these silly fantasy courses and shove some realistic ones in with reasonable conditions Also would love to see a tour like TAN with separate world rankings . Like to see some of these so called top boys come out of there shells and show us how to play it on more realistic settings instead of, count wind count boxes count grids , move marker and relying on vibration to tell you when to hit shot or putt . Think your be surprised how many peeps would enjoy that tbh . Well the carnival pins and gale force winds don't seem to matter much as last week's tournament winner was on -66, yes you read that correctly ,66 under par 🤪 |
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Post by Craig / Hendomedes on Jun 5, 2024 7:00:13 GMT -5
I've just been promoted to platinum Tour for the 1st time in 7 years playing this game . Are all the courses that cartoonee , silly slopes , high winds to try and keep scores down and to top it off I've heard a lot of bottom end plat players don't even finish to avoid demo marks . Wow . Well I've got there that will do I think I've achieved what I wanted to do . Thank you Yes would like to see a change with difficulty, whether it's swing difficulty or a few aids off to stop the mathematical side off it . That way you could tone down on these silly fantasy courses and shove some realistic ones in with reasonable conditions Also would love to see a tour like TAN with separate world rankings . Like to see some of these so called top boys come out of there shells and show us how to play it on more realistic settings instead of, count wind count boxes count grids , move marker and relying on vibration to tell you when to hit shot or putt . Think your be surprised how many peeps would enjoy that tbh . Congrats on the promotion mate. Bad news for you is this means you’re forever known as a big gun and can’t be an underdog / beginner anymore…  |
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Post by suggy on Jun 6, 2024 11:55:49 GMT -5
I've just been promoted to platinum Tour for the 1st time in 7 years playing this game . Are all the courses that cartoonee , silly slopes , high winds to try and keep scores down and to top it off I've heard a lot of bottom end plat players don't even finish to avoid demo marks . Wow . Well I've got there that will do I think I've achieved what I wanted to do . Thank you Yes would like to see a change with difficulty, whether it's swing difficulty or a few aids off to stop the mathematical side off it . That way you could tone down on these silly fantasy courses and shove some realistic ones in with reasonable conditions Also would love to see a tour like TAN with separate world rankings . Like to see some of these so called top boys come out of there shells and show us how to play it on more realistic settings instead of, count wind count boxes count grids , move marker and relying on vibration to tell you when to hit shot or putt . Think your be surprised how many peeps would enjoy that tbh . Congrats! I think you are touching on my OP - but I do believe these top golfers no matter the difficulty will still shoot lower than most. It's just the way they prepare, and play compared to say me - I literally load up the game - jump straight in and I never take practice swings. Very feel oriented. So yeah I'm essentially handicapping my own play by doing that, but if I'm not in a rhythm I'm not enjoying it so take it for what it is. I know I'm not alone there. I realize that I'm talented at the game though to be able to do that. That said, if I brought out wind charts, counted boxes, take a dozen practice swings, wormed cam greens, did a 125 degree switch of my camera to get exact wind measurements - opened the calculator app on my PC - and played 45 minute rounds I'd probably score much better LOL. But I don't have time for that, and I would probably quit by hole 4. That's why I selfishly want another tour snuck in there and let these dudes battle it out lol. Just getting to the Platinum tour is a feat in itself and should rightfully be celebrated - and without cuts you actually can stay a much longer time now at least! |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2024 12:36:14 GMT -5
I've just been promoted to platinum Tour for the 1st time in 7 years playing this game . Are all the courses that cartoonee , silly slopes , high winds to try and keep scores down and to top it off I've heard a lot of bottom end plat players don't even finish to avoid demo marks . Wow . Well I've got there that will do I think I've achieved what I wanted to do . Thank you Yes would like to see a change with difficulty, whether it's swing difficulty or a few aids off to stop the mathematical side off it . That way you could tone down on these silly fantasy courses and shove some realistic ones in with reasonable conditions Also would love to see a tour like TAN with separate world rankings . Like to see some of these so called top boys come out of there shells and show us how to play it on more realistic settings instead of, count wind count boxes count grids , move marker and relying on vibration to tell you when to hit shot or putt . Think your be surprised how many peeps would enjoy that tbh . Congrats! I think you are touching on my OP - but I do believe these top golfers no matter the difficulty will still shoot lower than most. It's just the way they prepare, and play compared to say me - I literally load up the game - jump straight in and I never take practice swings. Very feel oriented. So yeah I'm essentially handicapping my own play by doing that, but if I'm not in a rhythm I'm not enjoying it so take it for what it is. I know I'm not alone there. I realize that I'm talented at the game though to be able to do that. That said, if I brought out wind charts, counted boxes, take a dozen practice swings, wormed cam greens, did a 125 degree switch of my camera to get exact wind measurements - opened the calculator app on my PC - and played 45 minute rounds I'd probably score much better LOL. But I don't have time for that, and I would probably quit by hole 4. That's why I selfishly want another tour snuck in there and let these dudes battle it out lol. Just getting to the Platinum tour is a feat in itself and should rightfully be celebrated - and without cuts you actually can stay a much longer time now at least! Are the top players in Platinum using charts and countless practice swings to hit these super low scores or are they just good at the game. Counting beads etc, is that really needed when grids pretty much puts the putt break in front of you on a platter. So hundreds maybe thousands of hours played at the game does it not become second nature for good grid players without the tedium of charts and bead counting and worst of all countless practice swings. Some players are just very good without taking it to the extreme with extra aids such as charts and bead counting/ practice swings etc I watch a lot of the best of the best sim players out there streams and really good players like Craig / Hendomedes or horusphoenix play the game by feel and are pretty fast players, so their streams are really enjoyable to watch. |
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Post by suggy on Jun 6, 2024 13:03:26 GMT -5
Congrats! I think you are touching on my OP - but I do believe these top golfers no matter the difficulty will still shoot lower than most. It's just the way they prepare, and play compared to say me - I literally load up the game - jump straight in and I never take practice swings. Very feel oriented. So yeah I'm essentially handicapping my own play by doing that, but if I'm not in a rhythm I'm not enjoying it so take it for what it is. I know I'm not alone there. I realize that I'm talented at the game though to be able to do that. That said, if I brought out wind charts, counted boxes, take a dozen practice swings, wormed cam greens, did a 125 degree switch of my camera to get exact wind measurements - opened the calculator app on my PC - and played 45 minute rounds I'd probably score much better LOL. But I don't have time for that, and I would probably quit by hole 4. That's why I selfishly want another tour snuck in there and let these dudes battle it out lol. Just getting to the Platinum tour is a feat in itself and should rightfully be celebrated - and without cuts you actually can stay a much longer time now at least! Are the top players in Platinum using charts and countless practice swings to hit these super low scores or are they just good at the game. Counting beads etc, is that really needed when grids pretty much puts the putt break in front of you on a platter. So hundreds maybe thousands of hours played at the game does it not become second nature for good grid players without the tedium of charts and bead counting and worst of all countless practice swings. Some players are just very good without taking it to the extreme with extra aids such as charts and bead counting/ practice swings etc I watch a lot of the best of the best sim players out there streams and really good players like Craig / Hendomedes or horusphoenix play the game by feel and are pretty fast players, so their streams are really enjoyable to watch. Can't say for certain. But most good players I've watched have spreadsheets or are doing very quick math at least - and I see them taking multiple practice swings before each shot. I've contemplated over the last 3+ years dating back to TGC19 potentially streaming as I think people would be wow'ed but getting up there in age doesn't help! |
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Post by On3PmpWond3r on Jun 7, 2024 9:26:06 GMT -5
I know of a few people who are very scientific about their yardages. Haven’t personally seen them pause in stream to pull out a spreadsheet though. The ones I know pretty well and play with regularly just have a knack for knowing their swings and knowing their misses. Great green reading plays a big part. But I’d say it’s more important to hit fairways, hit greens, and to know the courses, where to play the ball on the green, what misses are manageable and which ones are impossible, and most importantly…..not hitting it in the damn water! (Lol) Could they make some changes to the tour, possibly, I don’t think putting the top 20-30 in a separate league is necessary though. If it came to that probably just have a cut halfway, those below the cut line are in a lower division (less wgr points, but still a trophy chance) those above play for the championship. Separating them into a whole new society not only creates another set of schedules, but there’d be an almost permanent field. Someone in elite has a hard enough time getting the promos to get to plat, let alone having to win plat to get to that upper echelon field. I’d like to think a lot of us enjoy competition and that’s why we’re here. To play every week, improve, and hopefully be able to climb the rankings and be proud of it. There’s many plat players in the mid pack that are more than capable of competing on any given week. Maybe I’m an oddity but I love the pressure, even though I can be tough on myself and appear to hate the game lol Are the top players in Platinum using charts and countless practice swings to hit these super low scores or are they just good at the game. Counting beads etc, is that really needed when grids pretty much puts the putt break in front of you on a platter. So hundreds maybe thousands of hours played at the game does it not become second nature for good grid players without the tedium of charts and bead counting and worst of all countless practice swings. Some players are just very good without taking it to the extreme with extra aids such as charts and bead counting/ practice swings etc I watch a lot of the best of the best sim players out there streams and really good players like Craig / Hendomedes or horusphoenix play the game by feel and are pretty fast players, so their streams are really enjoyable to watch. Can't say for certain. But most good players I've watched have spreadsheets or are doing very quick math at least - and I see them taking multiple practice swings before each shot. I've contemplated over the last 3+ years dating back to TGC19 potentially streaming as I think people would be wow'ed but getting up there in age doesn't help! |
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Post by suggy on Jun 8, 2024 13:24:32 GMT -5
I know of a few people who are very scientific about their yardages. Haven’t personally seen them pause in stream to pull out a spreadsheet though. The ones I know pretty well and play with regularly just have a knack for knowing their swings and knowing their misses. Great green reading plays a big part. But I’d say it’s more important to hit fairways, hit greens, and to know the courses, where to play the ball on the green, what misses are manageable and which ones are impossible, and most importantly…..not hitting it in the damn water! (Lol) Could they make some changes to the tour, possibly, I don’t think putting the top 20-30 in a separate league is necessary though. If it came to that probably just have a cut halfway, those below the cut line are in a lower division (less wgr points, but still a trophy chance) those above play for the championship. Separating them into a whole new society not only creates another set of schedules, but there’d be an almost permanent field. Someone in elite has a hard enough time getting the promos to get to plat, let alone having to win plat to get to that upper echelon field. I’d like to think a lot of us enjoy competition and that’s why we’re here. To play every week, improve, and hopefully be able to climb the rankings and be proud of it. There’s many plat players in the mid pack that are more than capable of competing on any given week. Maybe I’m an oddity but I love the pressure, even though I can be tough on myself and appear to hate the game lol Can't say for certain. But most good players I've watched have spreadsheets or are doing very quick math at least - and I see them taking multiple practice swings before each shot. I've contemplated over the last 3+ years dating back to TGC19 potentially streaming as I think people would be wow'ed but getting up there in age doesn't help! Completely agree with you, my man. The journey in TGCT is so much better than the destination. I personally am so proud of my journey from the depths of CC to Plat. Plat has always just felt like running straight into a brick wall though but I am trying to celebrate it more as an achievement rather than thinking of it as a burden. I also am very tough on myself so we have that spirit in common! |
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Post by weirsy2003 on Jun 12, 2024 1:03:42 GMT -5
I’ve just been promoted to Platinum and have probably reached the peak of my TGCT career. I’ll likely pick up demos quickly and be back to Elite but personally I’m fine with it! The journey of constant self improvement certainly is more interesting than the destination. I’d much rather finish 90th in Plat than 1st on CC-A but that’s just how I’m wired. I don’t play TAN every week but it certainly scratches my itch to play on more realistic sim settings. I would be curious to see if some of the top guys could adapt to those settings but based on what I’ve seen from feedback on the major this week let’s just say it seems there is a lot of resistance to difficult conditions/change among the top Plat players.
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