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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2022 8:01:13 GMT -5
Certainly we are going to have to wait to see how the new game plays on Pro/Master. It seems to me looking at the incredibly low scores posted already that the narrower cone makes very little difference to the majority of top players. For the rest of us I think you'll see the difference is significantly more. My scoring average per event this past season was low to mid -40's, but in this test event I shot nearly 35 strokes higher with one round at +7. Like another post earlier, I play better real golf than that, so for me, while it was a much tougher challenge, it was not enjoyable.
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Post by Mr Longpole on Aug 31, 2022 8:59:46 GMT -5
I honestly believe perhaps the only way to keep everybody happy would like hendomedes suggested 2 leagues, HOW ABOUT THIS , The 3 pro tours on masters where all the big guns are and will have more of a challenge and then have 2 separate C C tours 1 on pro and 1 on masters , instead of having 10 divisions have 5 each , problem solved . But if you get promoted from C C it's masters from then on wards ,
PS make true sim masters please and get that silly aiming marker off it's not called true sim it's called semi sim with that on . Lol
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Post by SkyBlueBen on Aug 31, 2022 9:06:11 GMT -5
I honestly believe perhaps the only way to keep everybody happy would like hendomedes suggested 2 leagues, HOW ABOUT THIS , The 3 pro tours on masters where all the big guns are and will have more of a challenge and then have 2 separate C C tours 1 on pro and 1 on masters , instead of having 10 divisions have 5 each , problem solved . But if you get promoted from C C it's masters from then on wards , PS make true sim masters please and get that silly aiming marker off it's not called true sim it's called semi sim with that on . Lol I’d agree with this except no promo (or demotion) between CC Pro and CC Master. |
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Post by Mr Longpole on Aug 31, 2022 9:48:29 GMT -5
I honestly believe perhaps the only way to keep everybody happy would like hendomedes suggested 2 leagues, HOW ABOUT THIS , The 3 pro tours on masters where all the big guns are and will have more of a challenge and then have 2 separate C C tours 1 on pro and 1 on masters , instead of having 10 divisions have 5 each , problem solved . But if you get promoted from C C it's masters from then on wards , PS make true sim masters please and get that silly aiming marker off it's not called true sim it's called semi sim with that on . Lol I’d agree with this except no promo (or demotion) between CC Pro and CC Master. promotion and demotion marks between there own difficulty levels and have 2 separate qschools at the start you can only enter 1 . Really is the only way to keep everybody happy, The devs are doing a great job but would they consider this idea |
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Post by SkyBlueBen on Aug 31, 2022 9:52:38 GMT -5
I’d agree with this except no promo (or demotion) between CC Pro and CC Master. promotion and demotion marks between there own difficulty levels and have 2 separate qschools at the start you can only enter 1 . Really is the only way to keep everybody happy, The devs are doing a great job but would they consider this idea I don’t know how much extra work it would cause but as you say, would cover all bases. |
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Post by axelvonfersen on Aug 31, 2022 13:38:08 GMT -5
So much fun being back on Master Swing. Even if the main tours go back to Pro Swing, it's an absolute must for Beer. R2 setup was a war crime.  |
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Post by williamwes626 on Aug 31, 2022 20:08:32 GMT -5
It was a joy with master swing - I'm thinking a lot of people still have their max power clubs which is probably affecting people's accuracy and causing worse scores. If you're just missing perfect and going 30 yards left or right, then the clubs are forgiving enough. Irons in particular will fly wild.
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Post by Brenelan on Aug 31, 2022 22:19:52 GMT -5
It was a joy with master swing - I'm thinking a lot of people still have their max power clubs which is probably affecting people's accuracy and causing worse scores. If you're just missing perfect and going 30 yards left or right, then the clubs are forgiving enough. Irons in particular will fly wild. But I fear we are back to the XBox conversation. I was +10 on Master and -32 over four rounds on the same course in an XBox society. That isn't all about clubs. Hoping the performance will be improved on the new version, or that we'll be able to build our player to compensate. |
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Post by blueblood1995 on Sept 1, 2022 0:18:27 GMT -5
I honestly believe perhaps the only way to keep everybody happy would like hendomedes suggested 2 leagues, HOW ABOUT THIS , The 3 pro tours on masters where all the big guns are and will have more of a challenge and then have 2 separate C C tours 1 on pro and 1 on masters , instead of having 10 divisions have 5 each , problem solved . But if you get promoted from C C it's masters from then on wards , PS make true sim masters please and get that silly aiming marker off it's not called true sim it's called semi sim with that on . Lol Why not Plat, Elite and Kinetic on Legend and x2 CC tours for Masters and Pro ?? |
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Post by blueblood1995 on Sept 1, 2022 0:21:06 GMT -5
I just played a round at Old Aulton and enjoyed another wonderful b101 design. A rollercoaster of a round both on the course and the card! Played Xbox Master level for the first time since about mid 2021 and wondering how my tempo distribution stacks up. (Also playing TST settings with aim marker off.) Surprisingly carded a -2! E on the front side and a -2 on the run in. My tempo distribution was as follows... VF red - 2 shots F red - 6 shots F grey - 3 shots Perfect - 22 shots S grey - 1 shot S red - 8 shots VS red - 0 shots Interested to see if others have recorded such statistics and how this distribution compares on PS or Xbox. I was actually very surprised with these numbers. EDIT: What actually ruined the immersion level for me was the VF reds and VS reds. The "wild" hook and "wild" slice did not feel realistic. I'd wonder if less lateral ball movement and a greater loss of distance would be a better approach ?? The problem then is you take out those poor drives as swing plane is forgiving. It is not uncommon for a pro to hit his drive way left or right into the trees I have seen it quite often on TV and real life as a spectator. I like to see the potential for really poor tempo penalised and big hooks and slices possible personally. The same for push and pulled shots Tbh big hooks and slices don't happen too much when I play the game on master and when they do my tempo really does feels off on the shot. I think you're probably right here. When a pro mishits it's not so much a significant loss of distance but the penalty is way left or way right. |
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Post by blueblood1995 on Sept 1, 2022 0:22:42 GMT -5
I'd respectfully request you wait and see how it plays when the new game drops. In this game I agree with you but I'm hoping the next one will be better. Agree with this 100%. Let's see how the new game plays. |
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Post by SkyBlueBen on Sept 1, 2022 0:54:21 GMT -5
It was a joy with master swing - I'm thinking a lot of people still have their max power clubs which is probably affecting people's accuracy and causing worse scores. If you're just missing perfect and going 30 yards left or right, then the clubs are forgiving enough. Irons in particular will fly wild. Must admit I couldn’t be arsed to change my clubs and if I was playing Master all the time I certainly wouldn’t have the same set up. Need HB/2K to provide option to have multiple bags saved. |
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Post by SkyBlueBen on Sept 1, 2022 0:58:19 GMT -5
I honestly believe perhaps the only way to keep everybody happy would like hendomedes suggested 2 leagues, HOW ABOUT THIS , The 3 pro tours on masters where all the big guns are and will have more of a challenge and then have 2 separate C C tours 1 on pro and 1 on masters , instead of having 10 divisions have 5 each , problem solved . But if you get promoted from C C it's masters from then on wards , PS make true sim masters please and get that silly aiming marker off it's not called true sim it's called semi sim with that on . Lol Why not Plat, Elite and Kinetic on Legend and x2 CC tours for Masters and Pro ?? I honestly think this is the only way to go to keep players happy. At least by having CC split. Obviously it remains to be seen to see if HB/2K have come up with a sweet spot between Pro and Master which will keep everyone happy. |
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Post by catcherman22 on Sept 1, 2022 1:13:11 GMT -5
Having different difficulty levels promote into a harder difficulty is a hard no... that's been tried and caused way to much of a headache.
What you guys are proposing with 2x CC for master and pro is basically a flighted beer league. That would require some work behind the scenes. There's a reason why we never flighted beer league... so not sure how realistic that idea is either. Nothing is off the table with the new game though.
Best case scenario is on where the entire tour is on one difficulty...hopefully that's more balanced with the new game!
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Post by twofor22 on Sept 1, 2022 1:18:27 GMT -5
I understand the idea about removing the aim marker for true sim, but I don't agree with it. The way the avatar sets up on screen it's too difficult to figure out where the hell it's aiming, the view down the hole doesn't look like it does in reality either, with objects a couple of hundred metres away looking more like they're 2 miles away. Then the wind meter gets in the way half the time on the high up camera view.
Most of the time when I walk onto a tee I can see exactly where I need to hit it, I can pick a spot or a leaf or whatever on the ground on that line and aim at it with confidence. Whether I hit it there obviously depends on how well I swing but the marker allows that same level of confidence with aiming the shot. Without it just feels like stabbing in the dark.
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