INCharlie68
Weekend Golfer
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TGCT Name: Charlie Clore
Tour: Challenge Circuit
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Post by INCharlie68 on Aug 29, 2022 13:32:25 GMT -5
I'm very interested in testing it out on the XBox side, since I've improved quite a bit this season (started in CC-L and finished in CC-G with a 1st and a 5th the last two weeks). So my guess is Masters won't be as penal for me as it was the tail end of last season. Should have a chance to check it out either tonight or tomorrow morning. I was thinking the same thing Tim. I'll be interested in the challenge. Didn't move up as fast but definitely improved a lot since getting my TGCTour card back at the first of the year. |
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terryhenry44
Caddy
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TGCT Name: TerryHenry_44
Tour: Platinum
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Post by terryhenry44 on Aug 29, 2022 14:16:50 GMT -5
Please DO NOT revert to master for the new season. Very clear from the off you can see it’s just not fun for 90% of the players. Important to note that for the top 10% it literally makes no difference anyway, but for the rest of us it’s just no fun. I feel you will lose a-lot of players going from pro to master. Just my opinion.
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Post by Giraffe72 on Aug 29, 2022 15:09:25 GMT -5
Please DO NOT revert to master for the new season. Very clear from the off you can see it’s just not fun for 90% of the players. Important to note that for the top 10% it literally makes no difference anyway, but for the rest of us it’s just no fun. I feel you will lose a-lot of players going from pro to master. Just my opinion. I'd respectfully request you wait and see how it plays when the new game drops. In this game I agree with you but I'm hoping the next one will be better. Do bear in mind as well, TGCTours can only support so many players and every game has brought a new influx. They may well want to play a setting that both suits their ideas and keeps the numbers under control. |
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Post by martbloke on Aug 29, 2022 15:11:43 GMT -5
Please DO NOT revert to master for the new season. Very clear from the off you can see it’s just not fun for 90% of the players. Important to note that for the top 10% it literally makes no difference anyway, but for the rest of us it’s just no fun. I feel you will lose a-lot of players going from pro to master. Just my opinion. I'd also say your opinion-based stats are quite skewed. I'd actually say a good 30-40% enjoy the challenge of Master swing and wouldn't mind it at all. The other 60-70% contain: - those where the setting is too hard for them no matter what clubs they choose (I feel for these as it can be a big frustration when you are always all over the place), - those who find it tricky because they REFUSE to change up their bag to help with tempo or swing plane deficiencies and want to use the longest distanced clubs possible even though they are beyond their skill level otherwise they feel like they are at a disadvantage, when actually they'd realise they'd play and score better if they did and found their balance, - those who find it OK but prefer Pro because they score better even though Pro is a bore to them (this even includes the minority who want to dumb it down "in their favour" so that the field is more level playing and less about skill so they feel they have a better chance to compete with the big dogs) Anyways, I would personally prefer the Pro tours using Master (maybe even the top 1-2 CC tours too), CC allowing Pro and Master swing so user choice - if you want to try and compete with those at the top, use the easier skill level, Pro, to make scoring easier, or your open choice on how you want to or can play at. Even better would be 2 different tours - Master and Pro - where you can enter both if you choose to, or just the 1. I know this adds more to the plates of the admins/rangers though so this is unlikely I'd guess. |
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Post by jeseterr on Aug 29, 2022 15:34:15 GMT -5
I´m only CC-L player and Iplayed 3 Practice site rounds 1 round +8 2 round +2 3 round I played splash shot only from bunkers + 15  ) IN my opinion it won´t be problem with Master swing. It will be problem with no possibility to play splash shots outside of bunkers  ))))) |
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Post by blueblood1995 on Aug 30, 2022 5:32:40 GMT -5
I just played a round at Old Aulton and enjoyed another wonderful b101 design. A rollercoaster of a round both on the course and the card! Played Xbox Master level for the first time since about mid 2021 and wondering how my tempo distribution stacks up. (Also playing TST settings with aim marker off.) Surprisingly carded a -2! E on the front side and a -2 on the run in. My tempo distribution was as follows... VF red - 2 shots F red - 6 shots F grey - 3 shots Perfect - 22 shots S grey - 1 shot S red - 8 shots VS red - 0 shots Interested to see if others have recorded such statistics and how this distribution compares on PS or Xbox. I was actually very surprised with these numbers. EDIT: What actually ruined the immersion level for me was the VF reds and VS reds. The "wild" hook and "wild" slice did not feel realistic. I'd wonder if less lateral ball movement and a greater loss of distance would be a better approach ?? |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2022 5:50:40 GMT -5
I just played a round at Old Aulton and enjoyed another wonderful b101 design. A rollercoaster of a round both on the course and the card! Played Xbox Master level for the first time since about mid 2021 and wondering how my tempo distribution stacks up. (Also playing TST settings with aim marker off.) Surprisingly carded a -2! E on the front side and a -2 on the run in. My tempo distribution was as follows... VF red - 2 shots F red - 6 shots F grey - 3 shots Perfect - 22 shots S grey - 1 shot S red - 8 shots VS red - 0 shots Interested to see if others have recorded such statistics and how this distribution compares on PS or Xbox. I was actually very surprised with these numbers. EDIT: What actually ruined the immersion level for me was the VF reds and VS reds. The "wild" hook and "wild" slice did not feel realistic. I'd wonder if less lateral ball movement and a greater loss of distance would be a better approach ?? The problem then is you take out those poor drives as swing plane is forgiving. It is not uncommon for a pro to hit his drive way left or right into the trees I have seen it quite often on TV and real life as a spectator. I like to see the potential for really poor tempo penalised and big hooks and slices possible personally. The same for push and pulled shots Tbh big hooks and slices don't happen too much when I play the game on master and when they do my tempo really does feels off on the shot. |
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Post by jeseterr on Aug 30, 2022 7:41:22 GMT -5
I played rounds on Master swing and I can tell you. I played much better then in real life  Iplayed +15 |
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Post by OldManGaming606 on Aug 30, 2022 14:55:25 GMT -5
Myself, an Xbox player, would prefer Master.
I actually find it more enjoyable than Pro. I'd rather have a very nice -8 or -9 round on Master than a -14 or -15 on Pro.
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Post by owenayy on Aug 30, 2022 15:40:27 GMT -5
Myself, an Xbox player, would prefer Master. I actually find it more enjoyable than Pro. I'd rather have a very nice -8 or -9 round on Master than a -14 or -15 on Pro. Lofty aspirations. I find myself ecstatic with an under par round of any number🥸 |
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Post by zooby97 on Aug 30, 2022 20:00:24 GMT -5
Please DO NOT revert to master for the new season. Very clear from the off you can see it’s just not fun for 90% of the players. Important to note that for the top 10% it literally makes no difference anyway, but for the rest of us it’s just no fun. I feel you will lose a-lot of players going from pro to master. Just my opinion. Please do. The rest of us? I’m in that 90%. Why do you think you have to speak for all 90%? Master to pro is not like it was prior. But with a new game players will be there for the first season with new game for the most part IMO. If masters were to be a struggle then I’d agree. But in reality we have to wait for at least 3 months of the new season to see what will transpire. Even XBox players have said it is not as bad anymore. And they may even tweak masters even more so let’s wait and see. They will have some test tourneys anyway before fully deciding. |
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Post by OldManGaming606 on Aug 31, 2022 7:20:59 GMT -5
Please DO NOT revert to master for the new season. Very clear from the off you can see it’s just not fun for 90% of the players. Important to note that for the top 10% it literally makes no difference anyway, but for the rest of us it’s just no fun. I feel you will lose a-lot of players going from pro to master. Just my opinion. Please do. The rest of us? I’m in that 90%. Why do you think you have to speak for all 90%? Master to pro is not like it was prior. But with a new game players will be there for the first season with new game for the most part IMO. If masters were to be a struggle then I’d agree. But in reality we have to wait for at least 3 months of the new season to see what will transpire. Even XBox players have said it is not as bad anymore. And they may even tweak masters even more so let’s wait and see. They will have some test tourneys anyway before fully deciding. Could not agree more with you. |
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Post by Mr Longpole on Aug 31, 2022 7:35:08 GMT -5
As a xbox masters player myself from the off , must say would love to see tgc change back to masters even on xbox as I do believe most players are now bored playing robot 12 to 15 under rd golf . U make a mistake on pro difficulty your rd is finished but on masters u can bounce back you gotta remember the only reason it went pro is because of the Duffy splash, when they fixed it 2 weeks later I'm sure it would of stayed masters . Trouble is lots of peeps are lazy won't change clubs look at course management they just want target golf , aim shoot aim shoot , I love a challenge come on boys get it on masters I would rather shoot 2 to 5 under then 12 to 15 under and I don't care about competing with PlayStation.
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Post by Craig / Hendomedes on Aug 31, 2022 7:40:13 GMT -5
To my eye the reason behind the change to Pro was to give Xbox players a chance to compete and to reinvigorate interest in the game following that horror patch. And it was definitely the right call at that time.
I think we can see amongst all platforms there's a split in what people would like to play on. I don't think it's as simple as Pro Tour guys want Master and CC want Pro or Xbox guys want Pro. It's a real mixed bag. Would there be any scope for introducing two tours if this persists into the new game.
Fwiw I think the change to Pro helped Xbox players on a lot of the gentler courses but on the tougher ones with no room for error the gap felt as wide as ever to me - if not more so - because of just how punishing the courses were at one point to counteract the drop to pro swing.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2022 7:50:58 GMT -5
As a xbox masters player myself from the off , must say would love to see tgc change back to masters even on xbox as I do believe most players are now bored playing robot 12 to 15 under rd golf . U make a mistake on pro difficulty your rd is finished but on masters u can bounce back you gotta remember the only reason it went pro is because of the Duffy splash, when they fixed it 2 weeks later I'm sure it would of stayed masters . Trouble is lots of peeps are lazy won't change clubs look at course management they just want target golf , aim shoot aim shoot , I love a challenge come on boys get it on masters I would rather shoot 2 to 5 under then 12 to 15 under and I don't care about competing with PlayStation. The duff splash came about when people tried shorter partial bunker shots and whacked the stick forward with poor tempo resulting in a duff. I duffed my first then realised I had to concentrate on tempo more in greenside bunkers and never duffed another. The main problem is they went too far on distance penalties to negate that horrid fast mechanic rather than than tweak it properly. Maybe they went a little too far with splash out of sand but from heavy rough a fast/slow red or very fast/slow red should be a duff. I only play on master and admit they turned it into a slog by being way too penal on distance for slight mishits for full shots. But sand play is still way too easy again now on master, I wish they left the splash when tempo was important I really enjoyed bunker play before they dumbed it down again. People are going to have to practice these shots more for 2K23 it seems, interesting to see how much tempo effects chips and bunker splash shots in the new game because it is very forgiving in 2K21. |
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