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Post by Matt10 on Sept 10, 2020 21:42:27 GMT -5
It's a risk reward. Having a repeatable swing is the key, and that takes practice and feel. Just because I know I hit fast, doesn't mean I'm going to do so each and every time. It means I could even hit it very fast - or very slow. Shot shaping can definitely help, but you still have to be 100% committed to the shot. I've owned the swing at this point, and it can be good or bad to me each go around.
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Post by dime5150 on Sept 10, 2020 22:17:02 GMT -5
People are playing the game as it was given to us, a straight stick is an exploit, what do you suggest, api failure unless people have an even number of slows and fasts?
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Post by xEB50x on Sept 10, 2020 22:27:09 GMT -5
People are playing the game as it was given to us, a straight stick is an exploit, what do you suggest, api failure unless people have an even number of slows and fasts? api never crossed my mind. But based on ur response I see this thread is a bad idea, going to delete.
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Post by thegamblinggamer on Sept 11, 2020 6:45:33 GMT -5
To me its just as hard to repeat the same fast as it is to repeat a perfect 🤷
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Post by dime5150 on Sept 11, 2020 6:47:49 GMT -5
I’m playing a fast hook right now, but I still struggle to get 70% fir, sometimes it’s not fast, not fast enough, or too fast, but it is more consistent than trying for a perfect
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Post by welpin on Sept 11, 2020 6:52:38 GMT -5
To me its just as hard to repeat the same fast as it is to repeat a perfect 🤷 exactly, there's still a ton of variance, this is nothing more than trying to play for a one-way miss, exactly as many pro golfers do by default. obviously not an "exploit"!
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Post by paddyjk19 on Sept 11, 2020 7:00:16 GMT -5
For me, hitting a fast is no different to Nicklaus, Montgomery, Tiger 2000 and many more who hit a fade or draw to take one side of the course out of play, I see it as skilful golf, I’ll try and hit slows to front right pins and fasts to back left pins. It’s not an exploit, rather it’s shot shaping at its best
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2020 8:17:11 GMT -5
Someone I know has gone from shooting around level par rounds to double digit under par rounds a few days after switching to play fasts off the tee and for approach shots. I have a feeling anyone who wants to compete on the platinum tour is going to have to play this way.
The thread title should have been:
Playing the fast.....Is this an advantage?
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Post by xEB50x on Sept 11, 2020 8:37:17 GMT -5
Someone I know has gone from shooting around level par rounds to double digit under par rounds a few days after switching to play fasts off the tee and for approach shots. I have a feeling anyone who wants to compete on the platinum tour is going to have to play this way. The thread title should have been: Playing the fast.....Is this an advantage? Good point, I deleted the OP, but now I can’t close or edit the title. It looks like ur 100% right on the number of people playing the fast to compete. More and more every week. It’s clearly a more forgiving way to play the game, it’s just not for me.
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Post by gatorman on Sept 11, 2020 9:04:09 GMT -5
I try to play fast, but i still get slow/very slow mixed in. Playing for fast hasn't made a difference for me. i still stink
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Post by rcknfrewld on Sept 11, 2020 9:08:43 GMT -5
Using the shot shaper the ball looks ridiculously unrealistic in the air. You have to use tempo to find certain hole locations and fairways as you battle slopes and wind. You cannot win using all fasts, which is all that matters so to speak. The winners will pull off the most correct golf shots, not 40 yd. sweeping hooks with right to left winds to a back right hole. Not gonna happen.
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Post by jtcurrent on Sept 11, 2020 9:18:47 GMT -5
This is a lot easier to pull off if you're able to hit it with a straight line. Any deviance throws it off quite a bit. And you also need to know if you'll get the white fast or the red fast...because that changes distance and draw amount. It's certainly not an exploit in my mind. I'd still be much more concerned about those who are straight shooters because they can then play whatever tempo they want.
I think the same holds true if someone wants to play for slows. Just a reversed version.
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Post by jtcurrent on Sept 11, 2020 9:21:04 GMT -5
One more point...is it an exploit for a pro golfer who always plays a draw? The key is to feel like you know what your ball will do every swing...but as referenced by Gary, if you're playing a draw into a tucked right pin life gets pretty challenging.
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Post by mctrees02 on Sept 11, 2020 9:33:33 GMT -5
Playing for fasts is great as long as your path stays inside the white lines but get outside of it and you'll run into trouble. Also, the fast produces a repeatable draw off the tee and fairway but gives a much wider range of outcomes out of the heavy rough and bunkers (as it should because it's a lot harder IRL to produce a draw/fade when there is grass/sand between the ball and clubface).
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2020 12:40:59 GMT -5
One more point...is it an exploit for a pro golfer who always plays a draw? The key is to feel like you know what your ball will do every swing...but as referenced by Gary, if you're playing a draw into a tucked right pin life gets pretty challenging. My only counter would be if someone wants to play a draw why not use the shot shaper and hit a perfect? Going to be an interesting season thats for sure with what cut lines and winning scores will be outside of the Platinum Tour.
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