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Post by Cecil Harvey on Sept 29, 2020 18:07:55 GMT -5
For all those crying foul play over fast here's a serious question for you: When you play a partial shot and set your intent well below 100% are you still still hitting "perfects"? I'd love for some of you anti-fasts advocates to upload 20-30 partial shots in the 70-90% so we can get an accurate "on the record account" of what kind of shot you guys are actually playing for. Are you getting perfects at your normal %? If not, are you actually still trying to hit perfects or are you simply aiming further right? I can't stress this enough, if you can't pass the stress test above then you have no right to question other people hitting fasts since you're playing the same way. I always club up/down and come back to the club so that it gives me the full distance for the shot. I also try to get perfects on partial swings around the green. The way partial shots work in this game by moving the marker and slowing down the swing doesn't seem well implemented, so I avoid it.
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Post by robn on Sept 29, 2020 18:18:01 GMT -5
The fast is easier than trying for perfect, from personal experience. BUT as I'm on Xbox and getting perfect was extremely difficult to get with any consistency, I see the fast as evening things up. I'm not going to make any apologies for playing it. I've tried for perfect since the game came out, with little success. I don't think it's possible to play well on Xbox if perfect is the goal, certainly not for me anyway, and I know I'm very far from the only one. I think it's probably a flaw in the swing mechanic, fasts should not be easier to hit. If I thought that with practice I could get 80%+ perfects I would put in the time, but it's just not going to happen on Xbox, so sod it, I'll play the fast and actually be able to plan a hole, use some strategy, have an idea where the ball will go, and enjoy playing a game which was anything but enjoyable. I could spend all day on the range trying to hit a perfect tempo and not hit a single one. Not even by accident. So yeah, I would say it most definitely is a major flaw. I've spent enough time with the game at this stage to feel like that is a reasonable conclusion for me to come to. 'Oh you shouldn't play fast, it's not how blah blah blah' they say......yeah well, I do like to play from a fairway once in awhile, so fast it is. I dont particularly want to play that way but it is quite simply the only way the game is in any way playable/enjoyable in my experience. I dont know. I feel like I might be close to becoming just a tad too disheartened/disappointed/frustrated with the game. It's a shame as it has great potential and I do enjoy competing on the tours. But I've better things to do with my time than getting pissed off by a video game.
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Post by titan30003 on Sept 29, 2020 18:18:27 GMT -5
For all those crying foul play over fast here's a serious question for you: When you play a partial shot and set your intent well below 100% are you still still hitting "perfects"? I'd love for some of you anti-fasts advocates to upload 20-30 partial shots in the 70-90% so we can get an accurate "on the record account" of what kind of shot you guys are actually playing for. Are you getting perfects at your normal %? If not, are you actually still trying to hit perfects or are you simply aiming further right? I can't stress this enough, if you can't pass the stress test above then you have no right to question other people hitting fasts since you're playing the same way. I understand your point Sean, but 1) Many or most of the anti-fast advocates are not in any way condemning or shaming people for using it. eg. I don't like the fast swing mechanic, but I've used it for my now aborted Q-school because I wanted to compete. They and I are just saying the swing as designed by HB is broken and should be fixed to encourage using Perfect tempo instead of a constant fast. Even if they play fasts for decreased intent partials (which is hard to avoid), it doesn't change the reasons they dislike the swing mechanic. It would not make them hypocrites in the least. 2) A smaller point - the partial shot, in my experience at least, is such a small part of the game. In 5 Q school rounds I didn't do any partial shots, aside from maybe a chip or 2.
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Post by GW_Hope on Sept 29, 2020 19:01:40 GMT -5
I do not want to tell people how to play. It’s a discussion. Who knows maybe HB reads it on occasion. I think fadgewacker had the right idea to fix it. Make the red fast zone smaller and change the penalties around it to make it tougher to be consistent with it with more dispersion than what it is. You can still play fast but have equal or more penalty than trying for perfect. That is exactly what there intent was even quoted by HB_Craig. For drives and shot you don’t need precise aim then a fast swing is logical.
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Post by coggin66 on Sept 29, 2020 20:00:49 GMT -5
To me, using the Fast "exploit" is a little like wall-riding in a racing game. It is not in the spirit of racing but if it is the quickest way around the corner, why would you not use it if everybody else is? The only way to stop it is to increase the penalty for using it.
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