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Post by linkslover on Mar 24, 2020 2:57:15 GMT -5
UK is now in (near full) lockdown for a minimum of 3 weeks. As I work for a company that distributes food I remain working, but even we are stripping everything down to the bare essentials to function.
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Post by LKeet6 on Mar 24, 2020 2:58:05 GMT -5
Look up Larry kudlow on wiki if you want a laugh. 3 wives, alcohol and cocaine problems, served under Reagan, worked on wall Street, out of politics for years until trump appointed him in 2018. Hard pass on him. American conservative union, pass. Goldman Sachs, wonder what their priorities are. Hard pass. Fox news, hard pass. Yep, there's definitely two camps on this. Just wonder what all of these people were saying about the economy during the financial crash... Your feelings on them notwithstanding.... these are the types of people in our presidents ear. Yep. Scary.
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Post by LKeet6 on Mar 24, 2020 3:21:26 GMT -5
"But early projections for the toll of coronavirus in the United States suggest it could lead to hundreds of thousands of deaths, even at the lowest end of ranges of estimates. While the figures for the mortality rate of coronavirus continues to evolve, recent research from Wuhan, China, the city where the outbreak began, indicates the mortality rate there was around 1.4%. Experts at Harvard University have projected an infection rate in the US of between 20% and 60%, meaning that while it is impossible to reliably estimate the American coronavirus death toll, a reasonable scenario might result in hundreds of thousands of lives lost."
An infection rate of 20% and a mortality rate of 1% (both right at the bottom end of the range) would lead to 600k deaths. 37k die of flu on average in America each year. People need to start waking up to the numbers...
And with trump pushing hard for a quick reopening of the economy, who knows what could happen...
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Post by LKeet6 on Mar 24, 2020 3:26:50 GMT -5
- Older people would rather die than let Covid-19 harm US economy – Texas official Lieutenant governor Dan Patrick tells Fox News: ‘Do we have to shut down the entire country for this? I think we can get back to work’-
Patrick said he feared that public health restrictions to prevent coronavirus could end American life as he knows it, and that he is willing to risk death to protect the economy for his grandchildren.
“You know, Tucker, no one reached out to me and said, ‘As a senior citizen, are you willing to take a chance on your survival in exchange for keeping the America that all America loves for your children and grandchildren?’” Patrick said. “And if that’s the exchange, I’m all in.”
“That doesn’t make me noble or brave or anything like that,” he added. “I just think there are lots of grandparents out there in this country like me.”
Jesus Christ 🙄
That really IS N Korea type stuff! Isn't it "patriotic" to want to save American lives??
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Post by cliffs on Mar 24, 2020 4:21:12 GMT -5
- Older people would rather die than let Covid-19 harm US economy – Texas official Lieutenant governor Dan Patrick tells Fox News: ‘Do we have to shut down the entire country for this? I think we can get back to work’- Patrick said he feared that public health restrictions to prevent coronavirus could end American life as he knows it, and that he is willing to risk death to protect the economy for his grandchildren. “You know, Tucker, no one reached out to me and said, ‘As a senior citizen, are you willing to take a chance on your survival in exchange for keeping the America that all America loves for your children and grandchildren?’” Patrick said. “And if that’s the exchange, I’m all in.” “That doesn’t make me noble or brave or anything like that,” he added. “I just think there are lots of grandparents out there in this country like me.” Jesus Christ 🙄 That really IS N Korea type stuff! Isn't it "patriotic" to want to save American lives?? Yes, like NK but most definitely republican in America. Now before we get reported, bring this to the politicos
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Post by joegolferg on Mar 24, 2020 4:22:55 GMT -5
Capitalists are by far the most extreme ideologues on the planet.
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Post by LKeet6 on Mar 24, 2020 4:58:34 GMT -5
- Older people would rather die than let Covid-19 harm US economy – Texas official Lieutenant governor Dan Patrick tells Fox News: ‘Do we have to shut down the entire country for this? I think we can get back to work’- Patrick said he feared that public health restrictions to prevent coronavirus could end American life as he knows it, and that he is willing to risk death to protect the economy for his grandchildren. “You know, Tucker, no one reached out to me and said, ‘As a senior citizen, are you willing to take a chance on your survival in exchange for keeping the America that all America loves for your children and grandchildren?’” Patrick said. “And if that’s the exchange, I’m all in.” “That doesn’t make me noble or brave or anything like that,” he added. “I just think there are lots of grandparents out there in this country like me.” Jesus Christ 🙄 That really IS N Korea type stuff! Isn't it "patriotic" to want to save American lives?? Yes, like NK but most definitely republican in America. Now before we get reported, bring this to the politicos Darn, I've fallen into the trap again, haven't I... I genuinely, genuinely, just wanted to report on each country's response to this, but I can see I've added a "political" thing at the end. Still don't see how this whole thing isn't "political..."
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Post by cliffs on Mar 24, 2020 6:01:10 GMT -5
Yes, like NK but most definitely republican in America. Now before we get reported, bring this to the politicos Darn, I've fallen into the trap again, haven't I... I genuinely, genuinely, just wanted to report on each country's response to this, but I can see I've added a "political" thing at the end. Still don't see how this whole thing isn't "political..." It is political but we have agreed to have a separate forum for that. I did not find your post political in nature but before it brings those replies that are most certainly wanting to come off certain posters fingers...we may as well nip it in the bud with my reminder is all.
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Post by LKeet6 on Mar 24, 2020 6:05:49 GMT -5
Darn, I've fallen into the trap again, haven't I... I genuinely, genuinely, just wanted to report on each country's response to this, but I can see I've added a "political" thing at the end. Still don't see how this whole thing isn't "political..." It is political but we have agreed to have a separate forum for that. I did not find your post political in nature but before it brings those replies that are most certainly wanting to come off certain posters fingers...we may as well nip it in the bud with my reminder is all. Yep. Again, I was trying to post updates on the virus, and slipped. I've taken to no longer doing back and forths with said person, and trying to just post what experts and govts are saying and doing 👍 Still struggling with the concept that saying my opinion is out of bounds because it's "too political." I mean, saying we shouldn't have lockdowns and keep people out working to "save the economy" must be a HIGHLY political opinion in that case??
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Post by TimB on Mar 24, 2020 6:09:11 GMT -5
have a separate forum for that. I've lurked there on occasion. Not much going on but just signed up for the hell of it. BTW...whatever happened to Paulus, thats his board isn't it, just never see him around here anymore.
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Post by LKeet6 on Mar 24, 2020 7:49:06 GMT -5
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Post by TimB on Mar 24, 2020 8:11:21 GMT -5
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Post by nevadaballin on Mar 24, 2020 9:59:10 GMT -5
The hospital staff I talked to yesterday were pretty disappointed and upset. Disappointed that the equipment they need is being held hostage in bidding wars. Upset with Trump for not supporting them and is putting their lives at risk by not having equipment allocated. And this isn't even a hot spot where I live.
They get one mask a day. My daughter has told me the same thing. She works for the same hospital at a different location downtown. They don't have any UV equipment to sterilize them each day. If this does become a hotspot, people will die from lack of medical availability.
It appears there are some people in leadership positions in DC who believe in human sacrifice to the almighty Economy Gods..... unless it is their own life of course. You won't see any of them jumping into a volcano themselves to save an economy. Yet our doctors and nurses jump into that volcano everyday to save a life.
Don't try to self-medicate with unapproved drugs or dumb sht found in social media. People have already died trying to use a form of chloroquine meant for aquariums. The wife of one man who died, and she is in critical condition, said they learned of chloroquine's connection to coronavirus during a President Donald Trump news conference, which "was on a lot actually." They took it because they "were afraid of getting sick," she said. "I had (the substance) in the house because I used to have koi fish. I saw it sitting on the back shelf and thought, 'Hey, isn't that the stuff they're talking about on TV?'"
Help your medical community. Listen to them. They are the experts. Stay home. Don't panic but please take the contagion seriously. Don't be an open-world carrier in the wild. If you see Trump talking, just hit the mute button. He is of no help here. That's not a political comment. That is a health and well-being comment.
Take care peeps.
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Post by titaneddie on Mar 24, 2020 10:06:32 GMT -5
By no means am I diminishing what people are and will be going through, but just wanted to offer a different perspective on things...
With my restaurant borderline shut down I've gone from working 10 hours days to about 4 hours a day....and although I may not have a business left when all this is done... Not going to lie, I've actually had a great week. Have had normal dinners with the wife, played online and talked with my nephews nearly everyday, got around to setting up a makeshift home gym of all the random equipment we've collected and never used. Crazy how much time in the today.
I figure I can't worry about things I literally have no control over so might as well try to have a good time while I can before the tab from this becomes real.
I know everyone is effected to different extremes by this but hopefully you all make time to have some good times to get through.
Good luck all.
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Post by cliffs on Mar 24, 2020 10:14:16 GMT -5
By no means am I diminishing what people are and will be going through, but just wanted to offer a different perspective on things... With my restaurant borderline shut down I've gone from working 10 hours days to about 4 hours a day....and although I may not have a business left when all this is done... Not going to lie, I've actually had a great week. Have had normal dinners with the wife, played online and talked with my nephews nearly everyday, got around to setting up a makeshift home gym of all the random equipment we've collected and never used. Crazy how much time in the today. I figure I can't worry about things I literally have no control over so might as well try to have a good time while I can before the tab from this becomes real. I know everyone is effected to different extremes by this but hopefully you all make time to have some good times to get through. Good luck all. Funny thing that time we all have in a day...wait until you retire.
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