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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2018 1:54:48 GMT -5
How about if people don't turn a card in its an automatic +3.
One comp a week is enough.
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Post by bradsam54 on Apr 5, 2018 3:19:31 GMT -5
We just heard from a son/father pair who I am sure would love to be able to continue competing together as a team. I also have a friend in my society that I would like to compete with. I am sure there are others as well who have someone in mind that they want to compete with. I think the whole handicap/Q-School can become an unnecessary nightmare. If we compete with family and/or friends as teammates, there will be far fewer drop outs. As long as we do not have 2 obvious ringer/badasses as a team totally dominating and lessening the fun for everyone else, I think everything should come together nicely. Anyone without a teammate can go into a pool with their current handicaps and the president can pair accordingly or lust go by the luck of the draw. We could try our first season that way and see how it comes together.
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Post by ewanh1 on Apr 5, 2018 3:39:33 GMT -5
My personal opinion is that a lot of the friendships & acquaintances in this game were/are made through pairing strangers. I , like Jason , don’t have any friends who play this game so I’m nearly always paired with someone I’ve never played with or against previously.
On the subject of scores/deadlines , I think if everybody knows from the off that Monday to Sunday (midnight GMT) is the deadline & even 1 minute over , for WHATEVER reason , will result in a penalty. I also believe that penalty should be in the region of +3 to +5 which should also eliminate anybody having a bad score & deciding just not to submit. If the penalties are harsh but clear from the get go then no one has room for manipulation. Just my tuppence worth 😁
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Post by moneyman273 on Apr 5, 2018 6:16:38 GMT -5
I assure you all, I'm reading every post. Instead of discussing all of the little things, I'd love some information on the big picture. So, go back to my original post and provide me with thoughts and ideas, if you don't mind. I have a vision in my head already, but nowhere near complete. After thought, here's some of my ideas:
Teams of 2 (with as balanced teams as possible. Would be random assignment. Exceptions possibly considered)
Depending on how well you do each week, individual scores/standings are kept, maybe based on the score of your rounds as a team? Individual point "bonuses" achieved by beating a predetermined score goal I post, which is based on how difficult I think the course will be (no penalty if you don't make the score, just the bonus points if you do make it). Those who Ace a hole get a bonus in the individual standings. What other bonuses?
Whatever clubs you wish to use. No questions.
TGCT greens rules.
I've heard requests for the same course in a week but two different tees and pins. Thoughts?
I'm thinking this would run from Tuesday to Sunday, with Monday night as my time to try and get it all together. Scores would need to be submitted by say, Sunday 11pm EST, thus giving you 4 week days and 2 FULL weekend days.
Keep the big picture comments coming.
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Post by F57Andromeda on Apr 5, 2018 7:08:52 GMT -5
I’m not computer literate but if you get anything going team wise or individual would appreciate an invite. Thx
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Post by bradsam54 on Apr 5, 2018 7:18:34 GMT -5
My personal opinion is that a lot of the friendships & acquaintances in this game were/are made through pairing strangers. I , like Jason , don’t have any friends who play this game so I’m nearly always paired with someone I’ve never played with or against previously. On the subject of scores/deadlines , I think if everybody knows from the off that Monday to Sunday (midnight GMT) is the deadline & even 1 minute over , for WHATEVER reason , will result in a penalty. I also believe that penalty should be in the region of +3 to +5 which should also eliminate anybody having a bad score & deciding just not to submit. If the penalties are harsh but clear from the get go then no one has room for manipulation. Just my tuppence worth 😁 I agree with Ewan, who BTW anyone lucky enough to be paired with this guy will have a good shot of winning
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Post by CiB0RG on Apr 5, 2018 8:12:43 GMT -5
Moneyman thank you for trying to get this league together and to who ever helps you that's awesome. If I were invited to join your league the only suggestion I have or opinion is when you run the league through the society way you never have to go through the process of finding the right course and you can also practice courses that are on the schedule weeks in advanced. There's no if you want to practice the round to make sure you change the format. Like in the Americas society it was stated that we have to change to stableford to practice. Now I've accidentally forgot this and used the score because in golf honesty and integrity is a big part of it. I just find it way easier the way Ninja had the Intrepid society setup as opposed to the America's. That's in no way taking a shot at Ninja by the way. I'm very thankful to whom ever is running one of these leagues. I know it's going to be your league so you'll run how you see fit and what's easiest for you. My father and I are both very new to this whole thing and really enjoyed playing these leagues. We both like the competitiveness as well. So if you need 2 players we would love to join. I really like the singles tournament idea inside of the team aspect as well. That way you can have a P.O.Y or maybe a FedEx Cup as well. That way if you lose as a team, you can still play the rest of the season having the team finals and the FedEx Cup ending on the same week. Lastly if you give people 1 Week to have their scores turned in that is plenty of time. Anyone who doesn't have it turned in will automatically forfeit. Just like on PGA for turning in a wrong scorecard. Anyone who can't play 2 rounds in a week you probably don't want them in the league any way. Those are just my thoughts. You asked so I figured I give you an opinion from a noob. Lol. By the way if the handicaps are close would it be possible to stay partners with my dad? That's even if you invite us. Either way we would still play if we got split up. Thanks for your time. Just going to chip in on this post. I agree that the best route to go for cross-platform tournaments is running it through societies. It takes away the temptation for someone to play a bad round and then say "well... I'll just call that one practice and play it for real the next time". It keeps everyone honest and makes it easier to keep track of how others have done if they did not post their scores. How Neon did it was he ran the XB1 society and he had a PS4 player set up the PS4 society and a PC player set up the PC society. He created a schedule and sent it to the people running the societies on the other platforms and it was smooth sailing. For the person who runs the society, there isn't really much work at all. They simply set up the schedule which takes a few minutes. And that's it! The whole season is ready to go. Personally I think the best chance for success is to use societies. I'd be happy to teach you more about them, Jason. I highly recommend considering it. It's actually very easy. And I agree I think it's a good idea to play the same course on different pins each week. Plus it makes scheduling easier.
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Post by CiB0RG on Apr 5, 2018 8:22:41 GMT -5
My personal opinion is that a lot of the friendships & acquaintances in this game were/are made through pairing strangers. I , like Jason , don’t have any friends who play this game so I’m nearly always paired with someone I’ve never played with or against previously. On the subject of scores/deadlines , I think if everybody knows from the off that Monday to Sunday (midnight GMT) is the deadline & even 1 minute over , for WHATEVER reason , will result in a penalty. I also believe that penalty should be in the region of +3 to +5 which should also eliminate anybody having a bad score & deciding just not to submit. If the penalties are harsh but clear from the get go then no one has room for manipulation. Just my tuppence worth 😁 Also agree with this post. I also don't have many friends who play this game, those that do are not very involved. I enjoy the camaraderie of mixing up everyone into playing with strangers if that's how it works out. I also think the +3 to +5 penalty for not playing is a good idea. It could also work as a "max score" rule. For example say the penalty for NO submission is +5. Player A does not play for the week. Score is defaulted to +5. Player B turns in a scorecard that the final score is +8. Score is adjusted back to +5 due to the "Max Score" rule. Or instead of turning in a scorecard at all Player B can just post "Max Score" in the score submission thread. Signifying they will either not be playing or scored higher than the max.
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Post by moneyman273 on Apr 5, 2018 9:17:22 GMT -5
Moneyman thank you for trying to get this league together and to who ever helps you that's awesome. If I were invited to join your league the only suggestion I have or opinion is when you run the league through the society way you never have to go through the process of finding the right course and you can also practice courses that are on the schedule weeks in advanced. There's no if you want to practice the round to make sure you change the format. Like in the Americas society it was stated that we have to change to stableford to practice. Now I've accidentally forgot this and used the score because in golf honesty and integrity is a big part of it. I just find it way easier the way Ninja had the Intrepid society setup as opposed to the America's. That's in no way taking a shot at Ninja by the way. I'm very thankful to whom ever is running one of these leagues. I know it's going to be your league so you'll run how you see fit and what's easiest for you. My father and I are both very new to this whole thing and really enjoyed playing these leagues. We both like the competitiveness as well. So if you need 2 players we would love to join. I really like the singles tournament idea inside of the team aspect as well. That way you can have a P.O.Y or maybe a FedEx Cup as well. That way if you lose as a team, you can still play the rest of the season having the team finals and the FedEx Cup ending on the same week. Lastly if you give people 1 Week to have their scores turned in that is plenty of time. Anyone who doesn't have it turned in will automatically forfeit. Just like on PGA for turning in a wrong scorecard. Anyone who can't play 2 rounds in a week you probably don't want them in the league any way. Those are just my thoughts. You asked so I figured I give you an opinion from a noob. Lol. By the way if the handicaps are close would it be possible to stay partners with my dad? That's even if you invite us. Either way we would still play if we got split up. Thanks for your time. Just going to chip in on this post. I agree that the best route to go for cross-platform tournaments is running it through societies. It takes away the temptation for someone to play a bad round and then say "well... I'll just call that one practice and play it for real the next time". It keeps everyone honest and makes it easier to keep track of how others have done if they did not post their scores. How Neon did it was he ran the XB1 society and he had a PS4 player set up the PS4 society and a PC player set up the PC society. He created a schedule and sent it to the people running the societies on the other platforms and it was smooth sailing. For the person who runs the society, there isn't really much work at all. They simply set up the schedule which takes a few minutes. And that's it! The whole season is ready to go. Personally I think the best chance for success is to use societies. I'd be happy to teach you more about them, Jason. I highly recommend considering it. It's actually very easy. And I agree I think it's a good idea to play the same course on different pins each week. Plus it makes scheduling easier. A very thoughtful, articulate post. Just as an FYI, I'd really like us all to start an awesome community where we at least know some basics about each other, even first name. I'm trying hard to catch some of your names on TGCT and remember them! I'm hesitant on the society thing because to be honest, I would have concern from others (PC society and PS4 society) not doing their part. If I run this outside of society, it's all on me but I know I'll get it right and meet a deadline. Furthermore, I have no idea how to even create a society, schedule events, time lines, etc. I'm intrigued by your idea though. I just don't know anyone personally who would be professional enough to do their part on PC and PS4. Or, if anyone would want to. I don't want this to become a huge thing. Just keep it simple and manageable.
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Post by bobapett on Apr 5, 2018 9:39:52 GMT -5
Just going to chip in on this post. I agree that the best route to go for cross-platform tournaments is running it through societies. It takes away the temptation for someone to play a bad round and then say "well... I'll just call that one practice and play it for real the next time". It keeps everyone honest and makes it easier to keep track of how others have done if they did not post their scores. How Neon did it was he ran the XB1 society and he had a PS4 player set up the PS4 society and a PC player set up the PC society. He created a schedule and sent it to the people running the societies on the other platforms and it was smooth sailing. For the person who runs the society, there isn't really much work at all. They simply set up the schedule which takes a few minutes. And that's it! The whole season is ready to go. Personally I think the best chance for success is to use societies. I'd be happy to teach you more about them, Jason. I highly recommend considering it. It's actually very easy. And I agree I think it's a good idea to play the same course on different pins each week. Plus it makes scheduling easier. A very thoughtful, articulate post. Just as an FYI, I'd really like us all to start an awesome community where we at least know some basics about each other, even first name. I'm trying hard to catch some of your names on TGCT and remember them! I'm hesitant on the society thing because to be honest, I would have concern from others (PC society and PS4 society) not doing their part. If I run this outside of society, it's all on me but I know I'll get it right and meet a deadline. Furthermore, I have no idea how to even create a society, schedule events, time lines, etc. I'm intrigued by your idea though. I just don't know anyone personally who would be professional enough to do their part on PC and PS4. Or, if anyone would want to. I don't want this to become a huge thing. Just keep it simple and manageable. I would also love to see this played through societies, for exactly the points raised above (great post, CiBORG!). Also, it's just cooler playing in a tournament atmosphere . I completely understand your concerns about it, though.
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Post by CiB0RG on Apr 5, 2018 9:49:43 GMT -5
Eric swany19 said he would be willing to use his PS4 society. And I have been setting up the PC society for intrepid for the last few seasons. Since the plug got pulled on intrepid my society could be used for this on PC. You wouldn't have to worry about us slacking off. There isn't a whole lot of responsibility for the guys setting up the societies on other platforms. Just have to take the few minutes before the season to add the events to the schedule and that's it. Creating a society is pretty easy. Not many hoops to jump through you just basically press the "create online society" button and give it a name and there is a few other things it asks for (just simple settings). I could make a tutorial video for you of how to add and edit events. It's not stressful or complicated, basically hassle free once the events are scheduled. I'm not trying to be pushy or anything, sorry if it's coming across that way. I'm on board to do whatever makes it easiest for you! Just letting you know that societies would probably be less of headache than you originally thought. Wouldn't be a bad option for people to have peace of mind that the scores coming in are legitimate.
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Post by bobapett on Apr 5, 2018 9:59:03 GMT -5
I assure you all, I'm reading every post. Instead of discussing all of the little things, I'd love some information on the big picture. So, go back to my original post and provide me with thoughts and ideas, if you don't mind. I have a vision in my head already, but nowhere near complete. After thought, here's some of my ideas: Teams of 2 (with as balanced teams as possible. Would be random assignment. Exceptions possibly considered) - Like itDepending on how well you do each week, individual scores/standings are kept, maybe based on the score of your rounds as a team? Individual point "bonuses" achieved by beating a predetermined score goal I post, which is based on how difficult I think the course will be (no penalty if you don't make the score, just the bonus points if you do make it). Those who Ace a hole get a bonus in the individual standings. What other bonuses? - What about making a putt over, say 50 feet? Or maybe 100% fairways hit, or GIR?Whatever clubs you wish to use. No questions. - Thank you (player club user, here)TGCT greens rules. - YupI've heard requests for the same course in a week but two different tees and pins. Thoughts? - I like it! It gives us some quality time with each courseI'm thinking this would run from Tuesday to Sunday, with Monday night as my time to try and get it all together. Scores would need to be submitted by say, Sunday 11pm EST, thus giving you 4 week days and 2 FULL weekend days. - Perfect. More than enough timeKeep the big picture comments coming.
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Post by coardster on Apr 5, 2018 11:22:10 GMT -5
Sounds good count me in... As simpler the better. Would singles not be easier to control? That way folk aren't relying on others to complete rounds... Just a thought
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Post by moneyman273 on Apr 5, 2018 11:33:59 GMT -5
Eric swany19 said he would be willing to use his PS4 society. And I have been setting up the PC society for intrepid for the last few seasons. Since the plug got pulled on intrepid my society could be used for this on PC. You wouldn't have to worry about us slacking off. There isn't a whole lot of responsibility for the guys setting up the societies on other platforms. Just have to take the few minutes before the season to add the events to the schedule and that's it. Creating a society is pretty easy. Not many hoops to jump through you just basically press the "create online society" button and give it a name and there is a few other things it asks for (just simple settings). I could make a tutorial video for you of how to add and edit events. It's not stressful or complicated, basically hassle free once the events are scheduled. I'm not trying to be pushy or anything, sorry if it's coming across that way. I'm on board to do whatever makes it easiest for you! Just letting you know that societies would probably be less of headache than you originally thought. Wouldn't be a bad option for people to have peace of mind that the scores coming in are legitimate. Oh. Very interesting!
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Post by welikeitroughnc on Apr 5, 2018 13:39:47 GMT -5
Only problem with societies are most don’t have more room in their list for another one I know I don’t much easier imo to play rounds but not my call there
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