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Post by splittailace on Jun 28, 2016 13:10:34 GMT -5
So if anyone seen the other morning I posted a rant. It was removed immediately of course. I apologize for my use of words. I do not apologize for the subject matter. Anyone that has been a member for very long knows I used to be a big part of the tours. I stepped away because of disagreements. No biggie.
Anyhow, a suggestion here. The suggestion has to do with ghosts and certain members waiting until they can play with ghosts because they want to exploit this part of the game.
How can tee times be implemented? I think random draw tee times each week would/could fix the issue of certain players waiting until Thursday every week. Yeah they might still get a late draw occasionally, but I guarantee the current wgr would look very different.
Tee times.
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Post by smurfblade88 on Jun 28, 2016 13:24:21 GMT -5
So if anyone seen the other morning I posted a rant. It was removed immediately of course. I apologize for my use of words. I do not apologize for the subject matter. Anyone that has been a member for very long knows I used to be a big part of the tours. I stepped away because of disagreements. No biggie. Anyhow, a suggestion here. The suggestion has to do with ghosts and certain members waiting until they can play with ghosts because they want to exploit this part of the game. How can tee times be implemented? I think random draw tee times each week would/could fix the issue of certain players waiting until Thursday every week. Yeah they might still get a late draw occasionally, but I guarantee the current wgr would look very different. Tee times. Will never happen IMO. One of things that helps TGCT grow is that ppl can fit in their rounds (at least 2) from Sat-Thurs. I 100% agree with ur point about the exploiting of ghost balls. For me the best thing we cud do is ask for their removal in Tourney rnds. There are many things that ppl do to exploit the game and the tours and unfortunetly theres not alot we can do. |
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Post by splittailace on Jun 28, 2016 13:39:37 GMT -5
Yes I know there would be some negative fall out from it. Losing members, members quitting because they aren't good enough without ghosts, etc. I understand why the schedule falls on each day and giving people time to get their rounds in. I would like to see it ran as purely and exploit free as possible.
It's to the point where I'm like "to Hell with it". If I have to play on Saturday night I might as well not play because I know someone is waiting because they want to use mine or another member's rounds to better theirs. I'm sure I'm not the only one who feels this way.
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Post by smurfblade88 on Jun 28, 2016 13:57:18 GMT -5
Yes I know there would be some negative fall out from it. Losing members, members quitting because they aren't good enough without ghosts, etc. I understand why the schedule falls on each day and giving people time to get their rounds in. I would like to see it ran as purely and exploit free as possible. It's to the point where I'm like "to Hell with it". If I have to play on Saturday night I might as well not play because I know someone is waiting because they want to use mine or another member's rounds to better theirs. I'm sure I'm not the only one who feels this way. Ye i get u pal, and i agree 100% wit u. The lengths some ppl go to to try get an advantage over the field is incredible. The ghost thing for me is simple, either turn them off for tournys or make them play in order and maybe limit the use of them to 1 per round. I think the latter is what may happen for TGC 2. |
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Post by naldy89 on Jun 28, 2016 14:02:58 GMT -5
You'll lose more members because of the time issue rather than they aren't good enough.
I myself would have to probably quit because my work schedule has me traveling all over the country at the drop of a hat. The way it is set up now usually lets me get my rounds in early (Saturday or Sunday) or late (Thursday) if need be.
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Post by splittailace on Jun 28, 2016 14:03:07 GMT -5
I hope something changes. I really do think a more structured tourney would be the answer. I don't know how it would work. That's just why I was throwing out the suggestion. May have been talked about a 1000 times already. I'm rarely on here anymore
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Post by edi_vedder on Jun 28, 2016 19:48:10 GMT -5
If I'd be forced to play at a certain (tee) time, I would quit.
Not because I'm not able anymore to use ghosts (and yes, I do still use them... feel free to throw something at me), but only because my (private) schedule wouldn't allow to be part of this great tour anymore. And this will most likely be the case for hundreds of TGCT members, and (IMO) this is sthe reason why it will never happen.
Don't get me wrong on this... if TGC2 offers the option to lock ghost balls in tournament rounds (for ALL players), I'm totally fine with that.
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Post by unclefester75 on Jun 28, 2016 22:31:54 GMT -5
I really don't see a problem with the Ghost Ball thing. None of the arguments have convinced me that it is so horrible as those who have argued against them. I have played both early and late and it seems that it really does not make a difference in my play at least.
You either set the pace or follow the pace. Either way, there is an advantage to both. I believe that you are as good as you are no matter if you use a ghost or not. I think we are not-picking here. |
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Post by mcbogga on Jun 29, 2016 0:14:19 GMT -5
If HB made them not play out of turn the issue would be much smaller.
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Post by mrooola on Jun 29, 2016 3:54:47 GMT -5
Alienating most players to avoid a select few to use ghost balls late in the week by implementing tee times... right...
This is the second most stupid thing I've read in terms of suggestions on this game. The most stupid would have been removing the gncd from consoles.
I understand your point though, but totally the wrong way to go about things imo.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2016 7:27:11 GMT -5
If HB made them not play out of turn the issue would be much smaller. I like this one coupled with not being able to zoom into the green to watch the other players ball land and see the rollout. Watching the ghost from the perspective of off of the green near where your ball is and watching only the opponent(s) ghost balls who are further away from the hole than you are. That view wouldn't zoom to the green, but rather be a view from where your own ball is. I don't like the practicality of tee times and how it would negatively impact TGCTours' participation. The idea is a good one in theory, but as a practical solution, it would be hard to find many who would truly like this. I mean, you have players from all around the world. What if someone draws a tee time that is during their work hours or during their normal sleep time? |
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Post by unclefester75 on Jun 29, 2016 10:20:30 GMT -5
If HB made them not play out of turn the issue would be much smaller. I like this one coupled with not being able to zoom into the green to watch the other players ball land and see the roll-out. Watching the ghost from the perspective of off of the green near where your ball is and watching only the opponent(s) ghost balls who are further away from the hole than you are. That view wouldn't zoom to the green, but rather be a view from where your own ball is. I don't like the practicality of tee times and how it would negatively impact TGCTours' participation. The idea is a good one in theory, but as a practical solution, it would be hard to find many who would truly like this. I mean, you have players from all around the world. What if someone draws a tee time that is during their work hours or during their normal sleep time? Or maybe get rid of the green grid lines and the putter firmness number (187 ect.). This way, you would have to judge the speed yourself. Or maybe they should get rid of the club distance meter and you would have to know how far you hit the ball and not rely on a number on the computer. Or maybe they could get rid of the percentage range on your lie and you would have to guess what type of lie you have. Or maybe the course could change conditions throughout the day as the grass grows or some players would play in rain while other would play in sunny weather. |
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Post by splittailace on Jun 29, 2016 13:29:09 GMT -5
Alienating most players to avoid a select few to use ghost balls late in the week by implementing tee times... right... This is the second most stupid thing I've read in terms of suggestions on this game. The most stupid would have been removing the gncd from consoles. I understand your point though, but totally the wrong way to go about things imo. Then what would be your suggestion? Instead of calling my idea stupid why not add some substance. Go to the leaderboard for the wgc event right now and look at players still to tee off. Makes my point. Plane and simple. |
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Post by mrooola on Jun 29, 2016 13:40:05 GMT -5
Alienating most players to avoid a select few to use ghost balls late in the week by implementing tee times... right... This is the second most stupid thing I've read in terms of suggestions on this game. The most stupid would have been removing the gncd from consoles. I understand your point though, but totally the wrong way to go about things imo. Then what would be your suggestion? Instead of calling my idea stupid why not add some substance. Go to the leaderboard for the wgc event right now and look at players still to tee off. Makes my point. Plane and simple. I called the idea stupid because adding tee times would create an immensely larger problem than the one at hand and I'm fairly sure you see that yourself. I'm not even sure I think it is a problem, but on the other hand I'm not emotionally engaged in the top 100 results. So what would my solution be? 1. Ask HB put in place that any tour or tournament play with ghosts force turnorder or that it can be an option to force this when creating a tournament. 2. Make any player unable to switch ghosts on any tour or rournament play. Can I enforce this? No. Would I be willing to go further personally? No. Do I care? Not really. So you might ask yourself why I bother replying in the first place. Well. The implications or your "solution", that would be a major problem for me. |
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Post by splittailace on Jun 29, 2016 13:46:55 GMT -5
It is a suggestion. I said I didn't know of the way to do it but something needs to change. I like your ideas. Hopefully this is a priority for hb.
It's ashamed it's so Damned PC in the forums that even the hint of calling people out and you are shunned and silenced. We don't want to offend anyone, especially the ones in question. Lol
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