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Post by BillySastard976 on Jun 12, 2016 23:31:01 GMT -5
Yes,I said 'flat and level'. I still do not understand what is meant by the grid lines 'going flat' I'm with you there Peter. For the life of me I have no idea what he means. I'd have to actually see a video of it to know . Perhaps a good graphics card is needed - mine isn't. |
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Post by Griz891 on Jun 13, 2016 2:49:11 GMT -5
I have a good graphics card...LOL
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Post by BillySastard976 on Jun 13, 2016 3:28:51 GMT -5
Hmm I don't know then.
My putting is generally pretty good but I'd like to give this a go too.
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Post by boomboom on Jun 13, 2016 7:21:34 GMT -5
I tried the putting method on round 4 of my CC Tourney. Actually, the thing about getting the lines level made perfect sense. You can't get it by just reading about it. But when you actually try it, it becomes crystal clear. I'll have to tweek things a bit, but I saw a definite improvement on the twisty turney putts. They were either very close or a few actually went in. Nice tip. Now how do we flatten the lines on a double breaker? For the folks with the questions what he said....... Like I said, can't make them all, I know i fckn don't, that's for sure, but with practice it gives you a much better idea of what is going on on those greens. Nothing is going to give you the line like tiger vision in any event, far to many variables at play here, double breakers, speed of greens, and how hard you hit the putt is all a factor in putting. However, with all that said, any method that allows you to start reading greens without requiring the moving bubbles is a gr8 thing IMHO. |
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Post by NCFCRulz on Jun 13, 2016 7:24:56 GMT -5
I tried the putting method on round 4 of my CC Tourney. Actually, the thing about getting the lines level made perfect sense. You can't get it by just reading about it. But when you actually try it, it becomes crystal clear. I'll have to tweek things a bit, but I saw a definite improvement on the twisty turney putts. They were either very close or a few actually went in. Nice tip. Now how do we flatten the lines on a double breaker? For the folks with the questions what he said....... Like I said, can't make them all, I know i fckn don't, that's for sure, but with practice it gives you a much better idea of what is going on on those greens. Nothing is going to give you the line like tiger vision in any event, far to many variables at play here, double breakers, speed of greens, and how hard you hit the putt is all a factor in putting. However, with all that said, any method that allows you to start reading greens without requiring the moving bubbles is a gr8 thing IMHO. The problem is chap, us mere mortals don't understand what you are describing  |
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Post by HeMan1202 on Jun 13, 2016 8:00:00 GMT -5
For the folks with the questions what he said....... Like I said, can't make them all, I know i fckn don't, that's for sure, but with practice it gives you a much better idea of what is going on on those greens. Nothing is going to give you the line like tiger vision in any event, far to many variables at play here, double breakers, speed of greens, and how hard you hit the putt is all a factor in putting. However, with all that said, any method that allows you to start reading greens without requiring the moving bubbles is a gr8 thing IMHO. The problem is chap, us mere mortals don't understand what you are describing It took me several times over reading the tip but I think this is what he is describing.
In his example, the putt is breaking right to left (he is lefty). He turns his golfer to the left (opposite of how you would play the break) until the green levels out (stops breaking away from the cup). He notes distance he has turned (by grids boxes presumably) and then goes back to the other side of the hole the same distance.
I could be off because I was not clear at first but I think this is it.
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Post by boomboom on Jun 13, 2016 8:18:36 GMT -5
The problem is chap, us mere mortals don't understand what you are describing It took me several times over reading the tip but I think this is what he is describing.
In his example, the putt is breaking right to left (he is lefty). He turns his golfer to the left (opposite of how you would play the break) until the green levels out (stops breaking away from the cup). He notes distance he has turned (by grids boxes presumably) and then goes back to the other side of the hole the same distance.
I could be off because I was not clear at first but I think this is it.
That is precisely what I tried to describe, thought I described anyway. If I could get it any clearer I would. |
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Post by NCFCRulz on Jun 13, 2016 8:48:52 GMT -5
Yea I get that but in the picture directly below wherethe cursor is there is still breaker further left? It doesn't look in the pic he has gone left until the break stops?
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Post by HeMan1202 on Jun 13, 2016 9:05:43 GMT -5
Yea I get that but in the picture directly below wherethe cursor is there is still breaker further left? It doesn't look in the pic he has gone left until the break stops? Right, but I don't think his method is relying on reading the bubbles, just the grid lines. The bubbles may still show break but once the actual grid line appears flat, that is where you stop (I think).
If you look at the picture, the grid line appears to be parallel to the screen.
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Post by boomboom on Jun 13, 2016 9:15:55 GMT -5
Yea I get that but in the picture directly below wherethe cursor is there is still breaker further left? It doesn't look in the pic he has gone left until the break stops? I never said once till the break stops, why would I say that, the break never stops even when you turn the beads would still move. That's ridiculous to think they would somehow stop. I said "turn the opposite way of the way of the break till the grid lines go flat and level" You can lead a horse to water, .......look if want to read a whole bunch of stuff that is not there, I don't know what to do with that. It would help if you perhaps gave it a try first and let me know what the issue is. |
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Post by curtmantle on Jun 13, 2016 9:51:33 GMT -5
I think the problem phrase is "...and turn the opposite way of the way of the break till the grid lines go flat and level" I must admit this is as clear as mud to me. Which grid lines? The ones across or the thicker lines down? The ones across never change so I'm assuming it refers to the thicker lines but 'flat and level' means nothing at all to me. It doesn't say "until the break stops." It says the "until the grid lines go flat." If you look at the horizontal grid lines between the ball and the cup, you will see that the lines themselves do go flat. The beads still move to indicate break. The above post from ErixonStone made me realise I'd misunderstood the original explanation but I haven't tried it out yet. I'm not someone who uses charts but these tips are still really useful because I do setup practice courses so I can see what effect the wind has and learn from experience but the idea of hitting from the centre of a huge circular green had totally eluded me before. So simple but a great tip! |
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Post by canthitstraight on Jun 13, 2016 11:15:30 GMT -5
Video examples on uphill putts:
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Post by NCFCRulz on Jun 13, 2016 11:46:24 GMT -5
Yea I get that but in the picture directly below wherethe cursor is there is still breaker further left? It doesn't look in the pic he has gone left until the break stops? I never said once till the break stops, why would I say that, the break never stops even when you turn the beads would still move. That's ridiculous to think they would somehow stop. I said "turn the opposite way of the way of the break till the grid lines go flat and level" You can lead a horse to water, .......look if want to read a whole bunch of stuff that is not there, I don't know what to do with that. It would help if you perhaps gave it a try first and let me know what the issue is. No need to get like that about it... I was merely pointing out that a few of us didn't understand for whatever reason. If there is a collective who didn't understand then the explanation can obviously be clearer! The person who said that the grid lines need to be parallel to the screen did the job. Obviously at this point the grid lines are NOT flat and level BUT they are level to the screen and that is what was not clear as was not stated in your post Anywho moving on! The tips are great and will help alot of people in here me included! Great kudos for doing this  |
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Post by canthitstraight on Jun 13, 2016 11:56:40 GMT -5
Boomboom: did you figure out the horizontal grid lines counting method on your own? If so, very creative!
I find that it is working very well for giving me accurate putts for uphill and no hill putts. Do you make many adjustments for downhill putts? I haven't been successful applying this to any downhill putts yet. And the steeper the decline, the farther off I am.
My method for downhill putts is what I'm going to coin the "play it safe method".
In this 14 feet putt that is 4 inches below the ball, I subtract 4 from the 14 feet to make it 10 feet. Then I know that the relatively fast green speed of 179 will take my ball quite a bit past the hole, so I drop a few more feet to 8 feet. I now aim in the direction of the break at a distance that is purely off past experiences and I end up within a 3 feet radius of the cup.
When I use your method for downhill puts, I find I have to make adjustments:
In this example I count 7 clicks to the right for this downhill putt. Then I re-center and go 7 clicks in the opposite direction. Since I know this will not nearly give me enough, I go an extra 7 clicks to the left. My 11 foot putt that is 5 inches downhill I calculate this way: 11 - 5 = 6 feet. Instead of subtracting a few more (the way I would in my example), I add 2 more to make it 8 feet the way I would normally take an uphill putt. This recalibration allows me a direct line at the hole, but takes my ball 8 feet past the hole if the line isn't true.
How would you handle this particular situation?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2016 12:03:01 GMT -5
Ummmmm why are so many people lady golfers??
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