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Post by bogeyman on Aug 8, 2015 3:53:27 GMT -5
OK I got to play early this week so I'll kick the thread off. This course finishes with the letters aka and in my book it's "also known as" Holy Moly. Round 1 winds were moderate (8 mph) which helped to keep on the fairways if you select the right club off the tee. That's all fine and dandy but birdies are still really hard to come by whilst bogies, well they're a dime a dozen. Have fun out there folks!
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Post by kiwi on Aug 8, 2015 3:56:43 GMT -5
An were racing .. an well feels that way
Nothing much to report but frustration
Thought, I had the new winds sorted (In practice) Well I had 9 mph or there abouts (Tour) Nothing went right from the get go ... I think I played an had every possible shot possible in a golf game ethier I've lost my mogo or somethings wasnt quite right .. one hole I had a head wind of 9mph hit the club I assumed would get there, not only did it get there but it flew the green *just has me baffled* anyways next hole or two later I get very similar shot a lil more distance about 6 yrds, ok it has to be the same club right ... nope wrong does the same thing flew the green.
funny thing is both times in practice,I recall those shots an my notes to be exact or there abouts with 10 mph headwind
anyways its starting to wear thin, very thin ... were meant to be getting better , not worse .... right?
yer 82 .... I do hope we get easier courses with winds very soon!
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Post by daveyp on Aug 9, 2015 4:01:34 GMT -5
This course is ridiculous, this is not fun for a player of my ability, just frustrating. If course selection continues in this vein there is no point in me continuing
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Post by BIELSALUFC on Aug 9, 2015 5:23:16 GMT -5
Given that everyone else is having a moan about this course, I'm going to give you guys in CC E my opinion.
Before we and i include myself criticise the course selection, lets just take into the account the work that goes into running this tour for us all and for FREE.
When it comes to computers and programmer i'm no nerd but i imagine that every score that is posted is having to be recorded, logged and managed. I can't even imagine what work is taking place to manage the tours and at the same time try to keep us happy. I've said it before and i'll keep saying it. Thank you.
I can't remember how many times i used profanities towards the person who made this course Haui Minoaka (no offence) Countless times i hit what i thought was the perfect shot into a green only to see it run to the back and then i fatted or thinned a flop shot to leave myself a difficult putt. What I thought was a simple par was another bogey. The occasion i did get close to the pins, i found myself with a difficult putt. There were holes from the tee on the course that i thought what the f do i do here. Okay i could have hit a long iron to ensure i was safe only to have to hit a 3 wood into the green. As the fairways were set firm, i rolled into several bunkers when i wouldn't have on another course. The whole experience was very very frustrating.
I finished 76 74 73 and 79 for +14 I was relieved when it was all over. I will wait for my stats and have a closer look. Can't remember how many 3 putts i had. It's just a fog now lol
I see it like this, I have to practice, practice and even more practice. I play with better players, they manage very well to adapt. I have improved. My first tourney i shot +58 second +41 third +4 hoodoo and lao pali were +19 and +13 Thousand islands was +1
I'm getting there, i think after the last 3 courses we could have done with an easier one thrown in.
As i can't putt with the right stick i'm going to spend the next few days trying to use the left stick to play. Should be fun NOT
Have fun.
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Post by bogeyman on Aug 9, 2015 8:22:30 GMT -5
Well said Sarintra. I agree with most of what you say. OK to have a whinge but basically we've got to suck it up and improve. Interesting about you changing sticks. I found I was slicing my drives and approach shots too much using my left hand with left stick. Decided to change to right hand with right stick and there was an immediate improvement in my "straightness" It felt peculiar at first but I was amazed how quickly I adapted. Putting in particular felt weird but within a week I was putting as well, if not better after changing.
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Post by BIELSALUFC on Aug 9, 2015 8:48:27 GMT -5
Well said Sarintra. I agree with most of what you say. OK to have a whinge but basically we've got to suck it up and improve. Interesting about you changing sticks. I found I was slicing my drives and approach shots too much using my left hand with left stick. Decided to change to right hand with right stick and there was an immediate improvement in my "straightness" It felt peculiar at first but I was amazed how quickly I adapted. Putting in particular felt weird but within a week I was putting as well, if not better after changing. Thanks.
I used to play all the 'other' golf games using the right stick. I switched to the left stick after 2 weeks playing this game. I was getting on well, the main difference for me was putting. It wasn't as if i was holing many puts but i was getting closer to the hole and as a result had gained confidence. Then when i signed into the game on xbox one the left stick option was broken. Just as i was getting to grips with the left stick i couldn't use it and went back to right.
In the tournament at Hau'oli i missed several 5 - 10 foot puts i shouldn't have. Switched back to the left stick and although i was a little inconsistent off the tee i found that my putting was much better. So i have this week to shore up my game off the tee without having to worry about my putting. Sorry to bore you.
I guess i just realised how important putting is. Now the option to put with left and swing with right would be perfect. Developers please
Good luck out there.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2015 8:53:32 GMT -5
This course is ridiculous, this is not fun for a player of my ability, just frustrating. If course selection continues in this vein there is no point in me continuing This is the last hard course CC will be getting pal. Things will be ok. The course committee have realised the courses were too hard for CC and have changed gears in their future tournament picks. Things will be more fun after this week. Hope that helps :-)
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Post by ABU_Bear on Aug 9, 2015 12:10:31 GMT -5
Debating on whether to submit my scores for this one. My 1st tournament in E...I may just wait until next week and start fresh. I kinda rage played the 4th round.
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Post by Orion on Aug 9, 2015 18:15:46 GMT -5
First the golf. Honestly, was not looking forward to this course as my practice rounds have sucked. Beautiful course and is a course that I do not really mind at all playing on, when I SHOOT GOOD.(LOL) Today, Round 1, just will say that starting off with a double bogey usually spells disaster for most players, and I am one of them. At the end of the front 9, was sitting at +5 and my mood was starting to decline to the dark side. Put together some birdies and some more bogies and oscillated between +4 and +5. Came to #16, Par 3. Hit my shot, just ignored the charts and guessed at the winds and the club and watched the ball drop into the cup for an ACE! Amazing, my first one in tourney play, the second HIO in the last 2 months and my third one since the beginning of the Tour back in Jan. This kind of shot does wonders for one's bad mood and dark-side feelings. I just knew I was going to give these 2 strokes I just earned back to the course. Just barely missed a birdie and #17 and at #18, ball lipped out and took another Par. My past history has been to ALWAYS blow a good shot and give back strokes to the course. Today, I feel that history has been broken. Finished the day at (+2) 74. My point here is that just one shot can make a difference, either way and that is the beauty of this game.
To all of the moaning of late: I have to give PROPS to Sarintra for his posting. Well said and do not disagree in any way. Same goes to Bogeyman and his endorsement also. Oswinner, thanks for updating some of this group for the upcoming events and what is going on with things within the CC group. Look, I am not trying to come across as a grizzled veteran of the TGCT and I am just as worn out as the rest of the CC-E group with the course difficulty we have been playing since the new format began. I am just an average to less than average player who wants to play well, shoot some low scores again and compete against players who are at the same skill level as myself. The new format I did not like in the beginning, but also knew it would take some time to balance out and give us the chance to compete with each other on a level playing field. That day is now here! Things are not yet totally right, I personally think there needs to be another change to isolate the really good players at the top of the CC and those at the lower levels. By this I mean different courses to be the best thing, at the very least, some wind allowance changes for us down here. I have moaned in these threads just as some are still doing, but one thing I never forgot was that the Staff gives us all this format to play and they do it for nothing, just respect and love for the game is their reward. You have to respect that! We would not be doing this if they did not do what they do. I've tried to minimize my moaning and groaning lately.
We will be getting the relief that Oswinner was referring to, and it will be welcomed. All of us in CC-D, E, and Z are not the skilled players as are those in the upper groups. As such, the general feeling is that we should play some easier courses. That is a tall order for the Staff to look at if we do not tell them the type of courses we need. There is a thread out there that we should be using to give the needed feedback to the Staff to assist them in meeting our concerns about to difficult courses being played. That thread is the community course selection thread and if you really want to help change things, go there and participate. The Staff can never please all of us about the courses, but at least help them with your inputs. Quit moaning and do something to get things better for us in the courses we play. Simple. I've always tried to say hi to all of you who come in new to this group and always try to help out when things get bad and people start feeling bad about the game. A pep talk. Had to give myself one or two lately because I want to play something that I can handle better and get back to playing below Par rounds. I have given my concerns to the Staff about the state of morale down here. They are more than aware of our struggles and I believe that they are willing to address it, but it will take some time, not going to be tomorrow or next week, but I am glad that at least they know what is taking place here in the lower groups and they want to do something about it. You have to help as do I. Give them some courses you would like to see played, tell them what you see as unfair in this format.
My personal view is that the CC group needs to be divided in the courses that are played. CC-A,B,C play one course, the rest of us play something different. Those of us in the lower tiers should be playing easier courses or at the vey least, make some wind allowances for us. We do not have the skills to play with the Bigger Dogs of A-C levels, that is a fact. I am just one small voice in all of this, we all have to speak up and tell them what we need in order for change to take place. If you can speak up here and moan and groan about the unfairness of it all, then speak up and tell the Staff what it is that is unfair and suggest your desires for other courses. It is that simple. I'm out now, hope that this does not go un-noticed by those of you who want some changes to occur.
Good luck this week guys,
Orion..........................
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Post by BIELSALUFC on Aug 10, 2015 6:11:17 GMT -5
Orion
Congrats on the Hole in One. And to do it is a tournament even better.
Although i can see the merits in the CC being split, once again that would involve more work by the organisers. I think they do more than enough.
The way i see it is Practice Practice Practice. The guys at the top of the tree didn't get there without putting in hours and hours of practice. No doubt they played the 'other' game so they had a good platform to start with but at the end of the day, these guys are just super talented. They manage the courses they play better. They can put the ball in positions, take into consideration the bounces, putt better, drive better etc etc. Where we might over club, miscalculate or whatever mistakes we make, they don't make the same ones.
When im playing, i'm yet to get the consistency with the swing, that the more experienced players get shot on shot. I get the occasional, well more than occasional shots that go left or right, then all of a sudden im thinking about what happened, then the doubt creeps in and i make a run of bogeys. If i'm not mistaken, this is second nature to the better players. 95 % of the time, the better players just don't make the mistakes.
We have been given a great and i mean great game together with the TGC guys who work tirelessly and thankfully listen its members.
I think i'm going to just try to enjoy it more from now on as i think i've taken the game way too seriously lately. I have a strong desire to try to climb the levels but any thoughts of getting to CCA I had in the first place have gone. Those guys get it, they are able to adapt to any course any environment and the truth is I will never be able to.
I will concentrate on the CCE and worry less about the levels above because when all is said and done, it's just a game.
The next 2 courses have difficult holes. Of course they do. I'm really not interested in playing easy courses that don't present me with a challenge. I won't learn anything. Because we have this medium to discuss things, they have already said that changes will be made going forward. Refreshing that they actually care enough about us to make these.
Onwards and upwards guys. Lets try to enjoy it shall we. Take whatever course they decide, play it, practice it, but most importantly enjoy it.
Just my opinion. No wish to offend anyone here.
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Post by DJL1981 on Aug 10, 2015 7:27:50 GMT -5
This is a really tough course - only played one practice round so far but don't really fancy my chances. Although it can be soul destroying to be shooting massively over par we are after all, all in the same boat here (especially now the wind is fixed), my +12 from last week still got me a top 20 finish. So the new system is working, we just need the courses to be a notch easier because they've just been the wrong side of challenging over the last month or so.
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Post by bogeyman on Aug 10, 2015 7:59:09 GMT -5
I guess i just realised how important putting is. Now the option to put with left and swing with right would be perfect. Developers please
Would you believe whilst changing my swing from left hand to right, I actually practised a couple of rounds using right stick to drive and approach and then for putting I changed the settings back to left stick! How crazy is that? A lot of stuffing around and then I decided to forget left altogether and persevere with right and after a few days it started to feel right.
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Post by BIELSALUFC on Aug 10, 2015 9:56:52 GMT -5
I guess i just realised how important putting is. Now the option to put with left and swing with right would be perfect. Developers please
Would you believe whilst changing my swing from left hand to right, I actually practised a couple of rounds using right stick to drive and approach and then for putting I changed the settings back to left stick! How crazy is that? A lot of stuffing around and then I decided to forget left altogether and persevere with right and after a few days it started to feel right.
I would believe it yes. I'm actually back to right now persevering with the right lol...
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Post by Orion on Aug 10, 2015 11:52:24 GMT -5
Sarintra, Thanks for the congrats on the Ace, I must say that I really appreciate your overall attitude and outlook with all that is transpiring within the CC-E group. It is very refreshing and one of optimism, so thanks for that, it is a little contagious and we all need something positive.
Just need to clarify my statement on the desire to have different courses for the CC tour. Know that will never happen, work load is way too great to go there again and I can appreciate that. Just a "pipe dream" on my part. I believe that there are other options and we will probably see something a little different with the next year's schedule. We are committed with what we have in place now and like you said we must adapt and just try a little harder. All that what I said is more to the point of trying to get the CC-E back to communicating in the threads about the golf and less on the moaning. I am just as guilty as anyone else, so that statement goes to me also. I will try harder to limit the comments and shorten up my responses.
Good luck with the rest of the tourney to all.
Orion.......................
Orion Congrats on the Hole in One. And to do it is a tournament even better. Although i can see the merits in the CC being split, once again that would involve more work by the organisers. I think they do more than enough. The next 2 courses have difficult holes. Of course they do. I'm really not interested in playing easy courses that don't present me with a challenge. I won't learn anything. Because we have this medium to discuss things, they have already said that changes will be made going forward. Refreshing that they actually care enough about us to make these. Onwards and upwards guys. Lets try to enjoy it shall we. Take whatever course they decide, play it, practice it, but most importantly enjoy it. Just my opinion. No wish to offend anyone here.
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Post by ABU_Bear on Aug 10, 2015 12:33:47 GMT -5
Question(2 parts)..maybe someone here will know the answer to. After this season...how much of a hiatus do they take until the next season is up and running?...and 2ndly do we go through Q-School again?
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