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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2023 7:58:03 GMT -5
jcauthen04 I just test FSR balanced at 2160p v FSR Ultra at 1440p and the picture is considerably better at FSR balanced 2160p. The whole idea of FSR is to upscale to your TV/monitors native resolution. If we are not taking FSR into account and just basic upscaling 1440p upscales horribly to 2160p I find it very blurry, 1080p upscales so much better as 2160p is 4 times the pixels of 1080p. Leave your resolution at 3840 x 2160 60Hz and choose FSR 1.0 balanced, if your framerate is dropping below 60fps, drop sky quality and clouds down, next drop shadow settings down. Also another method is to choose custom in the FSR 1.0 settings, now you have a slider that is 1 to 100%, this is something you can test as we want to get the very best image upscaled to your 2160p resolution and keep that 60fps and higher framerates. Supersampling is the opposite of upscaling as it will downscale a higher resolution than 4K in your case if you set over 100%, make sure this is always on 100%. The sharpness slider shouldn't effect framerate but give you a higher or lower sharpness to the image.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2023 8:26:05 GMT -5
cmattax my 3080ti was a Gigabyte Gaming OC as is my 4070ti. Tbh every GPU I have owned apart from a single AMD Radeon one has been absolutely fine. I had an ASUS GTX 1080 before that. Gigabyte also give a 4 year warranty which is brilliant. A 4070ti is not a big upgrade from the 3080ti but it does have much lower temps and much lower peak wattage and amazingly much much higher clock speeds, I can't believe how low the average wattage is compared to the 3080ti. I made the upgrade as I use RT in games and DLSS 3 frame generation is really good and the lower the resolution the bigger the gap between the cards. This is the only game that I use native 4K with TAA that has DLSS as my framerates are very good and I max out every setting. I have noticed bottlenecks with my Ryzen 3900x 12 core CPU when dropping res with upscaling but the CPU is fine when just running games at native 4K as I then get 100% or close to 100% GPU usage, that's why I upgraded that CPU for a 5800x3D which is really a gaming CPU and it is 50% off it's release price right now.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2023 15:34:25 GMT -5
cmattax my 3080ti was a Gigabyte Gaming OC as is my 4070ti. Tbh every GPU I have owned apart from a single AMD Radeon one has been absolutely fine. I had an ASUS GTX 1080 before that. Gigabyte also give a 4 year warranty which is brilliant. A 4070ti is not a big upgrade from the 3080ti but it does have much lower temps and much lower peak wattage and amazingly much much higher clock speeds, I can't believe how low the average wattage is compared to the 3080ti. I made the upgrade as I use RT in games and DLSS 3 frame generation is really good and the lower the resolution the bigger the gap between the cards. This is the only game that I use native 4K with TAA that has DLSS as my framerates are very good and I max out every setting. I have noticed bottlenecks with my Ryzen 3900x 12 core CPU when dropping res with upscaling but the CPU is fine when just running games at native 4K as I then get 100% or close to 100% GPU usage, that's why I upgraded that CPU for a 5800x3D which is really a gaming CPU and it is 50% off it's release price right now. Thanks Hammers. I am not in upgrade mode yet but I am looking for the best card maker for when I am ready. On the topic of upscaling, here is an interesting little registry tweak that will show you what your actual resolution is vs your rendered resolution. You can see it change as you cycle through the Performance, Balanced and Quality DLSS settings. It is only for DLSS though. DLSS registry tweak.Thanks cmattax that's good to know I will give it a try. jcauthen04 interesting table of upscaled resolutions for both FSR and DLSS here from the comment section of cmattax's link. Though I am sure performance mode in this game is 720p upscaled to 4K on FSR 1.0. videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-preparing-ultra-quality-mode-for-dlss-2-2-9-0-version-spotted |
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Post by jcauthen04 on Mar 11, 2023 20:55:23 GMT -5
jcauthen04 I just test FSR balanced at 2160p v FSR Ultra at 1440p and the picture is considerably better at FSR balanced 2160p. The whole idea of FSR is to upscale to your TV/monitors native resolution. If we are not taking FSR intoi account and just basic upscaling 1440p upscales horribly to 2160p I find it very blurry, 1080p upscales so much better as 2160p is 4 times the pixels of 1080p. Leave your resolution at 3840 x 2160 60Hz and choose FSR 1.0 balanced, if your framerate is dropping below 60fps, drop sky quality and clouds down, next drop shadow settings down. Also another method is to choose custom in the FSR 1.0 settings, now you have a slider that is 1 to 100%, this is something you can test as we want to get the very best image upscaled to your 2160p resolution and keep that 60fps and higher framerates. Supersampling is the opposite of upscaling as it will downscale a higher resolution than 4K in your case if you set over 100%, make sure this is always on 100%. The sharpness slider shouldn't effect framerate but give you a higher or lower sharpness to the image. Great idea with this thread Hammers! I tried what you suggested above and the results were stellar! I went with the res set to 3840 x 2160 60 Hz, as that is the native res of my TCL 6 55" display. I have FSR 1.0 set to balanced, supersampling and sharpness at 100%. I wound up going with custom FSR setting and wound up at 42%. If I go anything higher than that, I start seeing dips below 60 FPS. I'm pleased with the way the game plays and am okay with the graphics quality. The object detail is noticeably compromised, but still is easy on the eyes. I've got more experimenting to do. There are so many variables to change and changing some settings cause others to change to something else. I'll come back and share my settings when I'm confident I've achieved the optimum mix. |
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Post by jcauthen04 on Mar 11, 2023 20:59:13 GMT -5
Thanks Hammers. I am not in upgrade mode yet but I am looking for the best card maker for when I am ready. On the topic of upscaling, here is an interesting little registry tweak that will show you what your actual resolution is vs your rendered resolution. You can see it change as you cycle through the Performance, Balanced and Quality DLSS settings. It is only for DLSS though. DLSS registry tweak.Thanks cmattax that's good to know I will give it a try. jcauthen04 interesting table of upscaled resolutions for both FSR and DLSS here from the comment section of cmattax's link. Though I am sure performance mode in this game is 720p upscaled to 4K on FSR 1.0. videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-preparing-ultra-quality-mode-for-dlss-2-2-9-0-version-spottedI just gave that a look. Once I understand what it's trying to illustrate, I'm sure I'll find it to be a useful tool. Thanks Charlie for linking that! |
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Post by Roberto Busatto on Mar 12, 2023 2:16:43 GMT -5
Hi all! Great infos in this thread!
Anyone playing with an 1080p monitor on PC that can give me some FPS results at max quality ?
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Post by lessangster on Mar 12, 2023 4:36:17 GMT -5
Hi all! Great infos in this thread! Anyone playing with an 1080p monitor on PC that can give me some FPS results at max quality ? Thank you Roberto I play on a laptop with a 1080p monitor if that helps. |
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Post by Roberto Busatto on Mar 12, 2023 5:24:25 GMT -5
I play on a laptop with a 1080p monitor if that helps. Thank you for your reply, I do play on a 1080p 27" monitor with an old GTX 970. Looking to upgrade my GPU and I'm not really convinced that I need a 6700XT to play at 1080p max settings (maybe the 6650XT will be enough) Not playing other games ATM, nor upgrading to 1440p in the near future so I'm just curious to see what FPS results you are getting at 1080p maxed out with your GPUs |
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Post by lessangster on Mar 12, 2023 5:39:54 GMT -5
I play on a laptop with a 1080p monitor if that helps. Thank you for your reply, I do play on a 1080p 27" monitor with an old GTX 970. Looking to upgrade my GPU and I'm not really convinced that I need a 6700XT to play at 1080p max settings (maybe the 6650XT will be enough) Not playing other games ATM, nor upgrading to 1440p in the near future so I'm just curious to see what FPS results you are getting at 1080p maxed out with your GPUs This is the processor and graphics chip in it I can’t remember if it’s running at max settings as I don’t use it much I prefer playing on the series x and my big TV it does run at 60 fps but I don’t think it’s max of the top of my head.  |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2023 5:43:41 GMT -5
I play on a laptop with a 1080p monitor if that helps. Thank you for your reply, I do play on a 1080p 27" monitor with an old GTX 970. Looking to upgrade my GPU and I'm not really convinced that I need a 6700XT to play at 1080p max settings (maybe the 6650XT will be enough) Not playing other games ATM, nor upgrading to 1440p in the near future so I'm just curious to see what FPS results you are getting at 1080p maxed out with your GPUs Does your monitor have Freesync or Gsync? Edit: I just checked and the GTX 970 doesn't support adaptive sync. I used to have that card quite a few years ago, great to see it's still going and able to play this game. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2023 6:05:21 GMT -5
I play on a laptop with a 1080p monitor if that helps. Thank you for your reply, I do play on a 1080p 27" monitor with an old GTX 970. Looking to upgrade my GPU and I'm not really convinced that I need a 6700XT to play at 1080p max settings (maybe the 6650XT will be enough) Not playing other games ATM, nor upgrading to 1440p in the near future so I'm just curious to see what FPS results you are getting at 1080p maxed out with your GPUs Just a tip for you Roberto and jcauthen04 . I have every setting on max on this game and did some tests with graphic settings for you guys, I simply set Sky quality from high to low, high cloud quality from ultra to high and fog shadow quality from ultra to low and those 3 settings gave me a rise of 20fps. SSGI ( Screen space global illumination) I know is very expensive to framerates and to lower spec graphic cards. Turning that off gave me another extra 16 fps. I know when I had the previous games with my GTX 1080 I couldn't hit 60 fps at max settings at 1440p. I use to turn off sky and fog shadow as they really hit framerates without much improvement on visual fidelity, I was getting 28 to 30fps by lowering those settings on my older card in TGC 2019 and 2K21. |
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Post by Roberto Busatto on Mar 12, 2023 6:16:30 GMT -5
Just a tip for you Roberto and jcauthen04 . I have every setting on max on this game and did some tests with graphic settings for you guys, I simply set Sky quality from high to low, high cloud quality from ultra to high and fog shadow quality from ultra to low and those 3 settings gave me a rise of 20fps. SSGI ( Screen space global illumination) I know is very expensive to framerates and to lower spec graphic cards. Turning that off gave me another extra 16 fps. I know when I had the previous games with my GTX 1080 I couldn't hit 60 fps at max settings at 1440p. I use to turn off sky and fog shadow as they really hit framerates without much improvement on visual fidelity, I was getting 28 to 30fps by lowering those settings on my older card in TGC 2019. Thank you for your tips ! @hammers1man Would you mind setting the game at 1080p with all maxed out and have a look to the FPS you are getting ? No rush of course  Thank You ! Roberto |
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Post by Roberto Busatto on Mar 12, 2023 6:20:22 GMT -5
Does your monitor have Freesync or Gsync? Edit: I just checked and the GTX 970 doesn't support adaptive sync. I used to have that card quite a few years ago, great to see it's still going and able to play this game. just a poor 60mhz monitor, no freesyc/gsync  |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2023 6:36:37 GMT -5
Just a tip for you Roberto and jcauthen04 . I have every setting on max on this game and did some tests with graphic settings for you guys, I simply set Sky quality from high to low, high cloud quality from ultra to high and fog shadow quality from ultra to low and those 3 settings gave me a rise of 20fps. SSGI ( Screen space global illumination) I know is very expensive to framerates and to lower spec graphic cards. Turning that off gave me another extra 16 fps. I know when I had the previous games with my GTX 1080 I couldn't hit 60 fps at max settings at 1440p. I use to turn off sky and fog shadow as they really hit framerates without much improvement on visual fidelity, I was getting 28 to 30fps by lowering those settings on my older card in TGC 2019. Thank you for your tips ! @hammers1man Would you mind setting the game at 1080p with all maxed out and have a look to the FPS you are getting ? No rush of course Thank You ! Roberto The problem with this game is that you can only set your resolution and display refresh rate. So I can't go above my LG C2's 120hz as the game will cap my framerate to 120fps. I get around 90 to 110fps with everything maxed out on 4K. I always turn off DOF (depth of field) as that is a cinematic effect that I don't like in a sports game, it just makes distant trees and and objects blurry (out of focus). |
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Post by lessangster on Mar 12, 2023 6:37:43 GMT -5
Thank you for your tips ! @hammers1man Would you mind setting the game at 1080p with all maxed out and have a look to the FPS you are getting ? No rush of course Thank You ! Roberto The problem with this game is that you can only set your resolution and display refresh rate. So I can't go above my LG C2's 120hz as the game will cap my framerate to 120fps. I get around 90 to 110fps with everything maxed out on 4K. I always turn off DOF (depth of field) as that is a cinematic effect that I don't like in a sports game, it just makes distant trees and and objects blurry (out of focus). Any tips for me on my lowly laptop 😊 |
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