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Post by SkyBlueBen on Sept 11, 2022 12:15:22 GMT -5
Totally agree Jamie thats why i stopped playing the tours..i shoot -20 for 2 rds on a good day..nearly impossible for an average player to make the cut..& i am average..on masters i was very low in the CC tour but hovered around the cut..sometimes making sometimes not..but i was ok with that..played 1 promo event where i went up 4 levels..totally out of my league.. I am a player still in CC-L, not to good. You're right that not making the cut 20 under par is terrible, but on the other hand if everyone plays with the Masters setup in the new game, everyone will be on the same conditions, the cut will move up. The cut will be around minus five, those of us who play a cut around minus five will have + 10. It's the same, just moved up. But you increase the chances of more players messing up a hole or two. On Pro, for some, it's simply automatic. Even a fairway miss is easily recoverable on Pro, especially with the longest clubs. Master level makes you think about risky shots, with Pro you just go for it. Master level would change the demographic. All hypothetical though as I have little confidence on HB sorting the XB issues. I'd normally pre-order on both PC and XB but having had my fingers burned it'll just be PC for now. |
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Post by jeseterr on Sept 11, 2022 12:42:34 GMT -5
I am a player still in CC-L, not to good. You're right that not making the cut 20 under par is terrible, but on the other hand if everyone plays with the Masters setup in the new game, everyone will be on the same conditions, the cut will move up. The cut will be around minus five, those of us who play a cut around minus five will have + 10. It's the same, just moved up. But you increase the chances of more players messing up a hole or two. On Pro, for some, it's simply automatic. Even a fairway miss is easily recoverable on Pro, especially with the longest clubs. Master level makes you think about risky shots, with Pro you just go for it. Master level would change the demographic. All hypothetical though as I have little confidence on HB sorting the XB issues. I'd normally pre-order on both PC and XB but having had my fingers burned it'll just be PC for now. Yes you are right. Recover shots after first wrong are easy with Pro setting. You must only use higher club number. |
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Post by gmangi1955 on Sept 11, 2022 13:36:16 GMT -5
-4, -2, -6, -6 for -18 with two double bogies and two triple bogies How on earth did I manage to qualify for Platinum two years ago and stay there all the time we played Masters??? 😂😂😂 I too played Masters in the 2019 series and was way easier playing this 2k21. Tried playing on Masters earlier in the season before they changed to Pro and a big difference. Too many red fasts and red slows and just couldn't control the tempo. Been playing some of the special events on Masters and still no different than beginning of the 2k21. Hopefully 2k23 will be more controllable on Masters than 2k21. Good luck all. |
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Post by fransslabak on Sept 11, 2022 15:05:38 GMT -5
Played farewell #3 and… thoroughly enjoyed it! 😂
-9, -9, -9, -11 for -38
23 shots behind Loveskud, yes, but felt like I played solid - 1 bogey in four rounds and 39 birdies, the rest par.
This game is weird… 🙃
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Post by lessangster on Sept 11, 2022 16:11:10 GMT -5
This is my reality on Xbox with pro difficulty I’m using a purple Hogan driver, yellow fairway and hybrid and all silver irons and wedges for accuracy. I basically have one polling point in that white perfect quadrant with no leeway for a slight miss hit in the white area. If I hit a perfect it’s always in the exact same place wether I’m hitting driver or the much more forgiving irons. The next few images starting with the driver feedback goes down to irons and a pitching wedge. You will notice the perfect line is in the exact same position on all of them, I think HB have hoodwinked us into thinking that we have a better chance of a perfect even when they’ve given us a bigger ark. Now that would be true if they give us more polling points across that white arc but they haven’t, I either get a perfect in that exact same place or I get a grey fast or slow at best for a slightly off tempo shot. I don’t know if PS are seeing the exact same thing or do they get perfects right across the arc in different areas. You will notice I do have leeway with my swing plane but we know that has less effect on the accuracy of your shot than tempo. Edit: I’ve worked out that I have the same chance hitting a perfect with the purple driver that gives more distance than with a silver one that gives less so I might as well be further up the hole and thus nearer the green. Driver  Medium irons    Wedge  |
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Post by twofor22 on Sept 11, 2022 17:04:51 GMT -5
I'm on PS, there are several points across perfect that I could hit on pro difficulty, ranging from the middle to the edges. The edges are basically grey misses on master. Considering I hit perfect most of the time on pro I'd expect to hit it or grey misses most times on master, without the extreme red misses coming from swings that should either be perfect or grey. Those glitches happened to me twice in one tst event during the season and maybe a handful of times across the Elite season. Last week it happened a handful of times every round so something is off.
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Post by martbloke on Sept 11, 2022 19:37:09 GMT -5
This is my reality on Xbox with pro difficulty I’m using a purple Hogan driver, yellow fairway and hybrid and all silver irons and wedges for accuracy. I basically have one polling point in that white perfect quadrant with no leeway for a slight miss hit in the white area. If I hit a perfect it’s always in the exact same place wether I’m hitting driver or the much more forgiving irons. The next few images starting with the driver feedback goes down to irons and a pitching wedge. You will notice the perfect line is in the exact same position on all of them, I think HB have hoodwinked us into thinking that we have a better chance of a perfect even when they’ve given us a bigger ark. Now that would be true if they give us more polling points across that white arc but they haven’t, I either get a perfect in that exact same place or I get a grey fast or slow at best for a slightly off tempo shot. I don’t know if PS are seeing the exact same thing or do they get perfects right across the arc in different areas. You will notice I do have leeway with my swing plane but we know that has less effect on the accuracy of your shot than tempo. Edit: I’ve worked out that I have the same chance hitting a perfect with the purple driver that gives more distance than with a silver one that gives less so I might as well be further up the hole and thus nearer the green. Driver Medium irons Wedge I've had this discussion before and this is not entirely true. Playing on Xbox One X, I can hit 3 points in perfect on Master (this is when testing and having feedback on as I play normally without it). This 1st video alone shows 2 points hit (left and right). Plus the 2nd video showing I hit dead centre too - can't remember what the purpose was of the 2nd video mind you haha. |
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Post by lessangster on Sept 12, 2022 1:54:23 GMT -5
This is my reality on Xbox with pro difficulty I’m using a purple Hogan driver, yellow fairway and hybrid and all silver irons and wedges for accuracy. I basically have one polling point in that white perfect quadrant with no leeway for a slight miss hit in the white area. If I hit a perfect it’s always in the exact same place wether I’m hitting driver or the much more forgiving irons. The next few images starting with the driver feedback goes down to irons and a pitching wedge. You will notice the perfect line is in the exact same position on all of them, I think HB have hoodwinked us into thinking that we have a better chance of a perfect even when they’ve given us a bigger ark. Now that would be true if they give us more polling points across that white arc but they haven’t, I either get a perfect in that exact same place or I get a grey fast or slow at best for a slightly off tempo shot. I don’t know if PS are seeing the exact same thing or do they get perfects right across the arc in different areas. You will notice I do have leeway with my swing plane but we know that has less effect on the accuracy of your shot than tempo. Edit: I’ve worked out that I have the same chance hitting a perfect with the purple driver that gives more distance than with a silver one that gives less so I might as well be further up the hole and thus nearer the green. Driver Medium irons Wedge I've had this discussion before and this is not entirely true. Playing on Xbox One X, I can hit 3 points in perfect on Master (this is when testing and having feedback on as I play normally without it). This 1st video alone shows 2 points hit (left and right). Plus the 2nd video showing I hit dead centre too - can't remember what the purpose was of the 2nd video mind you haha. Well it’s true for me if not for you if I hit a perfect I can guarantee it’s in the exact same place on that white quadrant. It could depend on your calibration though |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2022 2:10:42 GMT -5
I'm on PS, there are several points across perfect that I could hit on pro difficulty, ranging from the middle to the edges. The edges are basically grey misses on master. Considering I hit perfect most of the time on pro I'd expect to hit it or grey misses most times on master, without the extreme red misses coming from swings that should either be perfect or grey. Those glitches happened to me twice in one tst event during the season and maybe a handful of times across the Elite season. Last week it happened a handful of times every round so something is off. What PS console do you use? I have a PS4 Pro and on some courses the framerates really are pretty bad. If using the game's 60hz mode and you can't maintain 60fsp it is not going to be a smooth experience as the game uses Vsync which I really don't like. I have a much better experience on PC where I never drop below 80fps and use GSync also. |
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Post by martbloke on Sept 12, 2022 2:37:47 GMT -5
I've had this discussion before and this is not entirely true. Playing on Xbox One X, I can hit 3 points in perfect on Master (this is when testing and having feedback on as I play normally without it). This 1st video alone shows 2 points hit (left and right). Plus the 2nd video showing I hit dead centre too - can't remember what the purpose was of the 2nd video mind you haha. Well it’s true for me if not for you if I hit a perfect I can guarantee it’s in the exact same place on that white quadrant. It could depend on your calibration though It certainly could depend on calibration although that still wouldn't make a lot of sense. If others can hit more than 1 spot, then those on the same console should be able to as well. You may find that you are just more consistent than you think when it comes to perfect tempo haha 😜 But what I do agree with is that everyone across all platforms should be able to hit any number of positions within a zone let alone the entire semi circle. If it's capped because of this polling thing, then that's not great for gamers and HB need to work the solution to make it so even if it means a slightly different build between platforms to get the same results. |
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Post by twofor22 on Sept 12, 2022 3:02:38 GMT -5
I'm on PS, there are several points across perfect that I could hit on pro difficulty, ranging from the middle to the edges. The edges are basically grey misses on master. Considering I hit perfect most of the time on pro I'd expect to hit it or grey misses most times on master, without the extreme red misses coming from swings that should either be perfect or grey. Those glitches happened to me twice in one tst event during the season and maybe a handful of times across the Elite season. Last week it happened a handful of times every round so something is off. What PS console do you use? I have a PS4 Pro and on some courses the framerates really are pretty bad. If using the game's 60hz mode and you can't maintain 60fsp it is not going to be a smooth experience as the game uses Vsync which I really don't like. I have a much better experience on PC where I never drop below 80fps and use GSync also. PS4, I don't think it's pro though. It seemed to be an issue with that course, or those particular areas on that course. I played the first round of this week's event today and shot 61, didn't have any crazy tempo glitches except the tee shot on 16 was red fast, then the next shot was red slow after being put off by the tee shot. Otherwise they were all perfect or slightly missed, difference today was that I could generally tell before the feedback if it was a bit fast or slow rather than everything feeling the same and getting random results. The issue I have with the glitches is that it makes you second guess yourself rather than focusing on hitting the same tempo every shot. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2022 3:05:22 GMT -5
Well it’s true for me if not for you if I hit a perfect I can guarantee it’s in the exact same place on that white quadrant. It could depend on your calibration though It certainly could depend on calibration although that still wouldn't make a lot of sense. If others can hit more than 1 spot, then those on the same console should be able to as well. You may find that you are just more consistent than you think when it comes to perfect tempo haha 😜 But what I do agree with is that everyone across all platforms should be able to hit any number of positions within a zone let alone the entire semi circle. If it's capped because of this polling thing, then that's not great for gamers and HB need to work the solution to make it so even if it means a slightly different build between platforms to get the same results. Would you say your calibrated tempo is a slower or faster tempo? I have a feeling that the faster your tempo the less accurate the game's reading for tempo with Xbox. It makes sense as an Xbox reads the controller input 124 times a second, so the quicker the stick movement the more rounding off to certain finishing spots. A 1000 times per second mouse for example will give a much more accurate reading of tempo and little to none rounding off with finishing spots. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2022 3:06:55 GMT -5
What PS console do you use? I have a PS4 Pro and on some courses the framerates really are pretty bad. If using the game's 60hz mode and you can't maintain 60fsp it is not going to be a smooth experience as the game uses Vsync which I really don't like. I have a much better experience on PC where I never drop below 80fps and use GSync also. PS4, I don't think it's pro though. It seemed to be an issue with that course, or those particular areas on that course. I played the first round of this week's event today and shot 61, didn't have any crazy tempo glitches except the tee shot on 16 was red fast, then the next shot was red slow after being put off by the tee shot. Otherwise they were all perfect or slightly missed, difference today was that I could generally tell before the feedback if it was a bit fast or slow rather than everything feeling the same and getting random results. The issue I have with the glitches is that it makes you second guess yourself rather than focusing on hitting the same tempo every shot. Do you play the game at 60Hz or 30hz? I say this as I think this is a game that needs a stable framerate, especially on Master/legend, yes a 60fps VSync cap is good but not if your frames dip below 60 fps consistently. A PS5 shouldn't have problems but the PS4 and PS4 Pro cannot keep a steady 60 fps. Some courses play well others like crap on PS Pro and I do believe that frame rate issues can effect tempo. |
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Post by Giraffe72 on Sept 12, 2022 3:35:59 GMT -5
I completely feel your pain. The lack of a gray miss on Xbox has always been the issue on Masters. We're either perfect or miles away. Do I want to be shooting -22 just to make a cut? No. I would much rather be playing harder settings but the simple fact is it's never worked on Xbox. I don't even really care if it's easier on PlayStation, I just want my rounds to be enjoyable. On Pro the game works really well on Xbox, it's by no means automatic to hit the perfect but when we miss we have the gray. I completely understand the frustration of other players who have lost interest because it's too easy on their platform, I would feel exactly the same. We've just got to hope that the next game works better, it's a simple as that. And I said before, for the life of me I don't understand the concept of 'collecting data' for a game that is about to be obsolete. But I do know this place is run and frequented by great people and it's well worth my while to be a part of it. I am curious how do silver clubs play on Xbox for tempo? They are closer to pro difficulty. I know you are sacrificing distance but there is quite a big difference with tempo windows between silver and purple clubs. I think my bag is a purple driver and the rest of my clubs are gold. I think gold clubs are a good balance for tempo and distance. My driver and woods are purple, every other club is silver. Perfect or red all day long. |
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Post by twofor22 on Sept 12, 2022 4:59:55 GMT -5
PS4, I don't think it's pro though. It seemed to be an issue with that course, or those particular areas on that course. I played the first round of this week's event today and shot 61, didn't have any crazy tempo glitches except the tee shot on 16 was red fast, then the next shot was red slow after being put off by the tee shot. Otherwise they were all perfect or slightly missed, difference today was that I could generally tell before the feedback if it was a bit fast or slow rather than everything feeling the same and getting random results. The issue I have with the glitches is that it makes you second guess yourself rather than focusing on hitting the same tempo every shot. Do you play the game at 60Hz or 30hz? I say this as I think this is a game that needs a stable framerate, especially on Master/legend, yes a 60fps VSync cap is good but not if your frames dip below 60 fps consistently. A PS5 shouldn't have problems but the PS4 and PS4 Pro cannot keep a steady 60 fps. Some courses play well others like crap on PS Pro and I do believe that frame rate issues can effect tempo. 60. Most of the time it looks smooth on screen, on 30 it looked a bit stuttered. It's still strange how there were virtually no glitches all season on pro then suddenly a whole heap in one week on master. If it plays like it did today it's fine, last week was just frustrating. |
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