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Post by cseanny on May 17, 2021 9:25:08 GMT -5
fadgewacker dansamp said it well. PS5 is backwards compatible with PS4 controllers, so both take advantage of 250Hz (wired). XSX controllers are 125Hz wirelessly and wired (they respond to every second console USB tick). This is why Xbox One and Series X controllers are forwards and backwards compatible (wireless/wired same). However, there is latency reduction in the XSX controller firmware to improve responsiveness, which is most likely why some XSX owners are finding a "little" more success than Xb1.
This weeks Platinum winner Pat is also in a league of his own, and he hits many many input points. Most PC players don't find anywhere near his success. I don't recall seeing anyone on PC using the same calibration method PS4 wired can achieve. PC does have the infamous ONLY 3 point calibration (PS4 too!), that no matter how slow or fast you swing you will only ever hit 3 input points, period. It would be easy enough to spot by watching a PC player, IF they stream. It's doubtful many know about it otherwise PC would be owning the leader boards instead lol. Yes, it passes API. Apparently I'm the only one aware how the PS4 3 pointer works therefore it has no chance to overrun PS4 gameplay, in or outside of TGCTs. No worries!
It's a strange world we live in where some measure of your success is dependent on which system and calibration method you're using. Imho it throws a real monkey wrench in the balance and overall competition of the game. Of course, as we all know, Xbox/XSX are at the very, Very, VERY bottom of the calibration food chain. Calibration is one of the most important factors in this game. Those who scoff at it will be forever left behind!
I'll finish by hitting on the PS4 wired calibration techniques again. PS4 players using this are increasing their Perfect Timing Window by 70 - 100%, or up to Double the Size of everyone else. If you are on PS4 you absolutely should be playing wired and calibrate, at a minimum, to L/R edges. Wireless was best for the Old Red Fast Meta because you wanted to avoid rounding, but in the land of Perfects, it's Wired or be crushed!
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Post by cseanny on May 17, 2021 9:28:11 GMT -5
Don't worry I've already tested it. Wired vs. wireless makes no difference on XB. Well maybe wired would be a slight edge because you don't have the occasional data transfer hiccup, but it doesn't alter polling rate. And fadgewacker it doesn't matter PS4 vs. PS5 from what I'm aware. Dingersinger for example is PS5 and he lately uses DS4 controller for drives + approaches (taking advantage of 250hz wired + the overpowered calibration) and PS5 controller for chipping/putts (because he prefers the feel!). I personally believe a PC rig can duplicate this stuff if you put the time in, but I am not able to confirm  . But if you watch any of the top PS4 players on twitch and pay close attention, you'll notice they all have the same calibration  . Someone swaps controllers for drives and approaches... wow. So does the DSense NOT poll wired @250hz? DUALSENSE controllers are 250Hz over USB and 800Hz over Bluetooth, the same as DUALSHOCK 4. |
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Post by fadgewacker on May 17, 2021 9:37:40 GMT -5
Someone swaps controllers for drives and approaches... wow. So does the DSense NOT poll wired @250hz? DUALSENSE controllers are 250Hz over USB and 800Hz over Bluetooth, the same as DUALSHOCK 4. Was just reading it was 285hz (while also seeing how certain controllers can be over / underclocked on PC), but regardless, still crap. I wonder why the hell Sony have done that. I might have a go at recalibrating if I get back to playing regularly. Wireless just felt better to me for a long time... |
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Post by jp44 on May 17, 2021 10:14:16 GMT -5
fadgewacker dansamp said it well. PS5 is backwards compatible with PS4 controllers, so both take advantage of 250Hz (wired). XSX controllers are 125Hz wirelessly and wired (they respond to every second console USB tick). This is why Xbox One and Series X controllers are forwards and backwards compatible (wireless/wired same). However, there is latency reduction in the XSX controller firmware to improve responsiveness, which is most likely why some XSX owners are finding a "little" more success than Xb1.
This weeks Platinum winner Pat is also in a league of his own, and he hits many many input points. Most PC players don't find anywhere near his success. I don't recall seeing anyone on PC using the same calibration method PS4 wired can achieve. PC does have the infamous ONLY 3 point calibration (PS4 too!), that no matter how slow or fast you swing you will only ever hit 3 input points, period. It would be easy enough to spot by watching a PC player, IF they stream. It's doubtful many know about it otherwise PC would be owning the leader boards instead lol. Yes, it passes API. Apparently I'm the only one aware how the PS4 3 pointer works therefore it has no chance to overrun PS4 gameplay, in or outside of TGCTs. No worries!
It's a strange world we live in where some measure of your success is dependent on which system and calibration method you're using. Imho it throws a real monkey wrench in the balance and overall competition of the game. Of course, as we all know, Xbox/XSX are at the very, Very, VERY bottom of the calibration food chain. Calibration is one of the most important factors in this game. Those who scoff at it will be forever left behind!
I'll finish by hitting on the PS4 wired calibration techniques again. PS4 players using this are increasing their Perfect Timing Window by 70 - 100%, or up to Double the Size of everyone else. If you are on PS4 you absolutely should be playing wired and calibrate, at a minimum, to L/R edges. Wireless was best for the Old Red Fast Meta because you wanted to avoid rounding, but in the land of Perfects, it's Wired or be crushed! Thank you for all the research you have put into this and the game in general. Truly amazing stuff. Pretty convinced you know more about the game than their own devs do lol. |
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Post by martbloke on May 17, 2021 11:33:25 GMT -5
I played my TST R1 and 2 last night - first time I've played at all in a couple of weeks. Maybe it's just me, but I found the pitching and splashing easier. Think I only had a couple of grey fasts in two rounds and no red :/ Have they made it easier to hit Perfect tempo on those shots while simultaneously making RF/RS more penal? Pitching is definitely easier which is good as I can now scramble to a par after my 200 yard drive! haha. I have just taken 3 attempts to get out of a bunker with a splash. Duffed it twice which is so, so good to see now. I find splashes are harder to execute for partials which I feel is how it should be. Was there another nerf after the original red fast nerf? I noticed on the Kinetic leaderboard that there are a lot of high scores so far Yes they have nerfed the slows now to be like the fasts and also nerfed splash shots so if you get tempo wrong on these, you duff it and it's only going 2-3 yards. Have made pitches a bit easier and less penal on miss-hits though which is good. Next up, move potential of overswing please!! |
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Post by dingersinger on May 17, 2021 11:45:16 GMT -5
IMO HB should remove the ability to move your calibration points - calibration should only affect ideal downswing speed. may nerf wired PS4 ability to create a giant perfect window, but using optimal clubs will still give wired an advantage. at least next game should be on next gen only so this issue should be gone.
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Post by lessangster on May 17, 2021 12:02:05 GMT -5
HB are to busy releasing basketball stuff to bother about the golf swing
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Post by r0nrun on May 17, 2021 12:47:44 GMT -5
HB are to busy releasing basketball stuff to bother about the golf swing Ahhhh...thats why i slamdunking every frkn bunker..... |
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Post by Demonondalinks on May 17, 2021 13:49:32 GMT -5
I like this game a lot because it's hard as heck to play on Xbox1X. All this info about Calibration points is making my head explode. I aint calibrated since September and won't until next game comes out. Why can't people just play the damn game. Some people always trying to find an easy way out to score low. I just find it all to silly.
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Post by PollingPoints on May 17, 2021 14:14:18 GMT -5
I may just be confused but I tried to wired calibrate on my PS5 and could not get these 3 perfects tempo polls as y'all were stating.
I'm still getting alot off polling point like I would be playing wireless on the PS5. I'm using a PS5 controller.
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Post by Cecil Harvey on May 17, 2021 14:28:03 GMT -5
AFAIK you can't play wired on the PS5 with a DS4 controller?!? It plays via Bluetooth whether plugged in or not.
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Post by cseanny on May 17, 2021 14:28:25 GMT -5
I like this game a lot because it's hard as heck to play on Xbox1X. All this info about Calibration points is making my head explode. I aint calibrated since September and won't until next game comes out. Why can't people just play the damn game. Some people always trying to find an easy way out to score low. I just find it all to silly. Calibration, at least the way it's coded and currently working is rather curious to say the least, especially when compared across all platforms. HB needs to give it a serious look moving forward because imo, it's currently broken!! Having said that, one of HBs pre-launch selling points was the ability to custom calibrate. As information collects we are simply seeing the best calibration techniques surface. The Calibration Meta is upon us. If people are going to spend hundreds, if not thousands of hours playing this game, then surely they can spend a little time working out their best calibration. I liken it to firing a weapon - you won't get very far if you don't get the perfect battle sight zero.
edit: Of course, Xbox players have a crooked barrel with a missing rear sight and front sight assembly  . |
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2021 14:35:17 GMT -5
I like this game a lot because it's hard as heck to play on Xbox1X. All this info about Calibration points is making my head explode. I aint calibrated since September and won't until next game comes out. Why can't people just play the damn game. Some people always trying to find an easy way out to score low. I just find it all to silly. I calibrated day one then a few months ago I noticed I was hitting every shot fast, literally every single shot. Had to do it again because it happened again in a tournament last week. I thought it was me, I recalibrated mid round and bingo I could hit it well again. I am sure this game resets it as the default is a little too slow for me. |
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Post by cseanny on May 17, 2021 14:40:58 GMT -5
AFAIK you can't play wired on the PS5 with a DS4 controller?!? It plays via Bluetooth whether plugged in or not.
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Post by PollingPoints on May 17, 2021 14:50:40 GMT -5
AFAIK you can't play wired on the PS5 with a DS4 controller?!? It plays via Bluetooth whether plugged in or not.
With a Ps5 controller or DS4? I was able to get the edge Perfects but also getting edge slow and fasts? |
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