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Post by BillySastard976 on Jan 13, 2023 15:24:57 GMT -5
40 courses sounds pretty good to me. Of course this plus a designer would be ideal but no doubt i'll be buying the game.
Conditions can be changed, very high winds etc, fast/slow greens, 40 courses may be enough for a while at least.
Its true 2K23 has thousands of courses, most of them not very good. Certainly though, a lot more than 40 are good.
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Post by CongoGB on Jan 13, 2023 15:34:15 GMT -5
I'll be very interested to see what EA come up with - likely to be a Day 1 purchase for me, especially as I uninstalled 2K23 a few days back out of frustration and currently have no want to reinstall.
One thing EA do well is online multiplayer without the player having to think too hard to join a game.
I'll wait for the details, which sound like they are coming very soon, but I have high hopes right now.
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Post by RTA MAN on Jan 13, 2023 15:47:51 GMT -5
I can remember back think it was TW 2004 maybe 2008 I carried a 7 wood in my bag it was worth its weight in gold on pebble beach for me it was on pro tour skill set the guys would get together great fun with out spin and power boost and all the other stuff that was in the game.
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Post by zooby97 on Jan 13, 2023 16:55:53 GMT -5
In ‘my opinion’ a golf game doesn’t need endless amounts of courses. If the gameplay & online components are flat out missing or not engaging then I’ll put the controller down after a round or two. Never got bored with an EA golf game with the exception of Rory they have been excellent for enjoying competitive live gameplay & I’m sure they’ll bring it with this £100 deluxe version. The problem for me with EA's golf games is it is mostly the same PGA courses that we have been playing in golf games the last 2 decades. Though I think that TGC1 was a pretty bog standard golf game with a great putting mechanic it was because of the course designer that I put in over 500 hours into that game. It was so refreshing to play European and other different courses from around the globe. Even local courses from close to where I live, not about endless but about more variety. I don't design but some of the courses in these games are the best RCR's I have played in video games. I wouldn't even put any official HB course in my top 20 favourite courses. This game would be dead without it's CD, people would just lose interest sooner than later. I have owned every EA golf game but very rarely play them for a long time as it just get boring playing the same old courses every year. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ THIS
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Post by martbloke on Jan 13, 2023 17:32:48 GMT -5
The problem for me with EA's golf games is it is mostly the same PGA courses that we have been playing in golf games the last 2 decades. Though I think that TGC1 was a pretty bog standard golf game with a great putting mechanic it was because of the course designer that I put in over 500 hours into that game. It was so refreshing to play European and other different courses from around the globe. Even local courses from close to where I live, not about endless but about more variety. I don't design but some of the courses in these games are the best RCR's I have played in video games. I wouldn't even put any official HB course in my top 20 favourite courses. This game would be dead without it's CD, people would just lose interest sooner than later. I have owned every EA golf game but very rarely play them for a long time as it just get boring playing the same old courses every year. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ THIS I'll be honest, a course designer is irrelevant to me. If the game if golf is great, it has an immersive career mode which has some sort of longevity to it and maybe different ways to play it as well as good fun yet competitive MP mode, there's no real need for a course designer. Sites like this may very well depend on a course designer however to create there big seasons, not that I think a site called TGC Tours would use an EA game to run their seasons/career on.
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Post by hammers1man on Jan 13, 2023 17:40:59 GMT -5
What's funny is that everyone is saying that EA's game will get stale...interestingly enough, I feel 2K23 is very stale already and DOES have a designer. The designer itself is basically the same it's been for years, with very few new assets added since 2014, no new clubhouses/buildings, less functionality for PC designers, and a host of bugs and glitches. There's a reason good, new courses are still coming out at a snail's pace. Most of the courses we've played here to this point have been 2K21 ports. The main addition to the new designer is splining fences, and people are already complaining about designers using that feature too much... 2K's career mode is hollow, and you have to play on basically all the same courses in there anyway, since they never update the curated list with any new user-made tracks (Torrey Pines North has been the only add to it). So if EA can make an immersive single player career mode with some of the best-known courses on the planet, you're likely getting a better single player experience than 2K can offer, and that's why it's of interest to me. I see you and a few others find it all a bit stale and the single player is very important which is fine but many here are about online multi player and community and just a minority of courses set in the US just won't do it when you've been spoilt for many great courses for the last 9 years. It has 100% kept these golf games going. But EA have introduced 30 courses with maybe 6 I haven't played countless maybe hundreds of times before. It all seems a bit closed garden to me, as a PC player the fact that communities can mod games and make them better by adding content and keep those games fresh for years is a big plus not a minas. The CD keeps this franchise fresh and opens that closed garden, it is like free content and awesome content when new community courses are released, I love community content and though we haven't been blessed with as many community courses as before we have some of the best RCR's in 2K23 that I have played yet in digital form. There is a lot of stuff I hate in 2K23, I have had to reinstall windows and I cannot be arse to play the awful single plater career in this game to get those fittings back, I have been stuck with 1 green fitting for the last month for all my irons including PW which isn't actually classed as an iron, I actually got excited about a grey head fitting for my iron clubs because I wasn't award a hybrid fitting for a change. It is not enjoyable it is hard work. I seriously dislike the skills and club fitting mechanics of the game, the consumable ball the less I say about them the better. The disappearing ball that plagued 2K21 in fixed cam is still present unfortunately. I think 2K23 is a very good golf game but still very rough around the edges and live ghost in societies not working anymore is just unforgivable.
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Post by hammers1man on Jan 13, 2023 17:42:56 GMT -5
I'll be honest, a course designer is irrelevant to me. If the game if golf is great, it has an immersive career mode which has some sort of longevity to it and maybe different ways to play it as well as good fun yet competitive MP mode, there's no real need for a course designer. Sites like this may very well depend on a course designer however to create there big seasons, not that I think a site called TGC Tours would use an EA game to run their seasons/career on. I understand Mart but then I don't understand why is this site is even relevant to you then.
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Post by martbloke on Jan 13, 2023 18:32:26 GMT -5
I'll be honest, a course designer is irrelevant to me. If the game if golf is great, it has an immersive career mode which has some sort of longevity to it and maybe different ways to play it as well as good fun yet competitive MP mode, there's no real need for a course designer. Sites like this may very well depend on a course designer however to create there big seasons, not that I think a site called TGC Tours would use an EA game to run their seasons/career on. I understand Mart but then I don't understand why is this site is even relevant to you then. Because it offered something that TGC/2K did not in game - a good competitive place to play with divisions. TGC/2K's career and MP modes are not great so the course designer was more important and so too was this place. If the game was immersive enough, I wouldn't have cared for this site in the 1st place.
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Post by hammers1man on Jan 13, 2023 18:48:28 GMT -5
I understand Mart but then I don't understand why is this site is even relevant to you then. Because it offered something that TGC/2K did not in game - a good competitive place to play with divisions. TGC/2K's career and MP modes are not great so the course designer was more important and so too was this place. If the game was immersive enough, I wouldn't have cared for this site in the 1st place. Seems you are already in the EA can't do no wrong club, I am sure the career mode with Sawgrass and the same old same old courses is enough for you . Sorry but I just don't understand this whole philosophy of the next game is gonna be so much better, this is EA Tiburan we are talking about. Let's see shall we and the multi player is not going to be great it never was on their console games. But EA can @!$# right off if they expect me to pay £10O for a golf game just because the deluxe game has 30 courses. Now that in your own words is a rip off.
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Post by martbloke on Jan 13, 2023 19:36:30 GMT -5
Because it offered something that TGC/2K did not in game - a good competitive place to play with divisions. TGC/2K's career and MP modes are not great so the course designer was more important and so too was this place. If the game was immersive enough, I wouldn't have cared for this site in the 1st place. Seems you are already in the EA can't do no wrong club, I am sure the career mode with Sawgrass and the same old same old courses is enough for you . Sorry but I just don't understand this whole philosophy of the next game is gonna be so much better, this is EA Tiburan we are talking about. Let's see shall we and the multi player is not going to be great it never was on their console games. But EA can @!$# right off if they expect me to pay £10O for a golf game just because the deluxe game has 30 courses. Now that in your own words is a rip off. Never said they can't do no wrong and defo waiting on more news/videos before committing. Said it sounds good from what was written. Would never pay £100 for any game not even 2K21 had I known in advance how much I'd love the game and I really, really do. I don't get this massive love affair with the designer and that any golf game that does not have one is a no go. Before, the majority of golf games never had a designer and were plenty popular because of the gameplay and modes included. It's like saying that CoD is boring as it has limited maps to play and no map designer but it's not boring because the gameplay and modes make it not so. I'm afraid that HB/2K have burned quite a few bridges with me over 2K23 so yes, my head is turning now. We'll see what EA have got and my feeling is that it will be much better than 2K23 and I really hope it is for 2 reasons. 1) because I'd love a next gen (current) golf game that is immersive and 2) I hope it forces HB/2K to actually put way more effort into their 2K25 game on a new engine. But again we'll see if they can be bothered or whether they decide to remove more modes and only have career and local play modes next time with the same legacy bugs as the last few games AND botched more stuff with the swing/shots.
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Post by hammers1man on Jan 13, 2023 19:47:15 GMT -5
Seems you are already in the EA can't do no wrong club, I am sure the career mode with Sawgrass and the same old same old courses is enough for you . Sorry but I just don't understand this whole philosophy of the next game is gonna be so much better, this is EA Tiburan we are talking about. Let's see shall we and the multi player is not going to be great it never was on their console games. But EA can @!$# right off if they expect me to pay £10O for a golf game just because the deluxe game has 30 courses. Now that in your own words is a rip off. Never said they can't do no wrong and defo waiting on more news/videos before committing. Said it sounds good from what was written. Would never pay £100 for any game not even 2K21 had I known in advance how much I'd love the game and I really, really do. I don't get this massive love affair with the designer and that any golf game that does not have one is a no go. Before, the majority of golf games never had a designer and were plenty popular because of the gameplay and modes included. It's like saying that CoD is boring as it has limited maps to play and no map designer but it's not boring because the gameplay and modes make it not so. I'm afraid that HB/2K have burned quite a few bridges with me over 2K23 so yes, my head is turning now. We'll see what EA have got and my feeling is that it will be much better than 2K23 and I really hope it is for 2 reasons. 1) because I'd love a next gen (current) golf game that is immersive and 2) I hope it forces HB/2K to actually put way more effort into their 2K25 game on a new engine. But again we'll see if they can be bothered or whether they decide to remove more modes and only have career and local play modes next time with the same legacy bugs as the last few games AND botched more stuff with the swing/shots. As I said as it is not about the love affair for a designer but about not being thrown the same PGA courses every single year. As someone who plays some top courses in real life it is just refreshing to play them in a golf game. I got so sick of having 5 new PGA courses as the huge big thing each year on these EA yearly cycle golf games. It is numbing and very hard to get excited about. Again the whole closed garden scenario. Yeah it might have a great sim mode but severely lacking on the course front for me. Good thing with game pass EA access we have a 10 hour trail. Probably enough time to play every course.
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Post by zooby97 on Jan 13, 2023 21:16:13 GMT -5
What would be nice if you could take your character from a junior player up to the senior ranks. EA's game is going to have the US Amateur, so that might be how they go about career mode. Not sure about the senior side of things. EA will also have the LPGA in it, according to their website. If they don’t have anything resembling the TGC Tours I won’t be playing it as much. But i still have an interest in the game as i like golf games. TGC Tours and society play keep me coming back.
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Post by sandbagger on Jan 15, 2023 0:23:44 GMT -5
Would be pretty unique if EA had a PGA tour version. And a European Tour edition like they had back on the Sega Genesis days. Was really fun playing on leaderboards with European only players. And Authentic only European tour courses as well.
Maybe EA will have a course designer sneak in upon launch or shortly after for an additional upgrade fee
Also feel that the presentation of events, course conditions and appearance will be light years ahead with a Next Gen EA release
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Post by greenlightning on Jan 15, 2023 9:46:17 GMT -5
Would be pretty unique if EA had a PGA tour version. And a European Tour edition like they had back on the Sega Genesis days. Was really fun playing on leaderboards with European only players. And Authentic only European tour courses as well. Maybe EA will have a course designer sneak in upon launch or shortly after for an additional upgrade fee Also feel that the presentation of events, course conditions and appearance will be light years ahead with a Next Gen EA release There will never be a course designer in any EA game. That is not the way gaming is going micro transactions are the rule. I would bet that if 2k/HB end up upgrading and use a new engine and the current course designer for whatever reason doesn't work with it then you won't see a designer in their games anymore either. I don't understand how anyone would be fine with just 30-40 courses. Don't care how good they are it would get boring very quick. I hope EA brings out a top notch game not expecting it they haven't made a golf game in close to a decade and their other sports offerings are stale at best.
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Post by Gasman on Jan 15, 2023 10:30:36 GMT -5
It’s only 30 courses & one of those will be Augusta’s Par 3 which in only a short nine hole. That’s 531 holes of golf within an advanced (compared to Unity) game engine which will all be playable with your friends online. There will be lobbies for the difficulty you choose & most of all you’ll be able to go head to head on any one of those 30 tracks. Professional golfers don’t need to play 100’s of different courses in a season to keep them interested they need competition & that’s something that hasn’t been seen in a golf game for years (unless you look & play in external leagues such as TGC) but even then you’re not experiencing live play. Many things need to be confirmed for EA’s game but if everything is there as it was in TW 14 ( Country clubs etc……HB copied this idea & called it societies btw ) all will be good & course numbers will be a non issue.
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