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Post by gatorman on Dec 3, 2020 10:34:12 GMT -5
I’m stuck at par player going for perfect and only adjusting for lie, wind, elevation and hazard avoidance. Thus, I am going nowhere in the TGCTours. It’s gotten old playing my 4 rounds and finishing around par, and seeing -30 to -50 scores all over the place. I have practiced a lot, but perfect tempo on my pc with elite 2 control cannot be managed with the slightest consistency. Seems forcing the fast red gives many players a better consistency. I could save many strokes if I could stay in the fairway and hit more greens than I have been able to do playing for perfect.
Is it fair to assume most of the low scoring is done with the fast tempo? I just can’t see how a player always setting up for a perfect can score that low. I typically wind up hitting varying degrees of slow or fast and missing many fairways/greens.
Have you made the switch to fast tempo? Did it improve your score? I don’t want to play like that, but I don’t see any other alternative to play TGCTour and come close to the level of play needed to make cuts regularly, and challenge for a promotion mark once in awhile.
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Post by Demonondalinks on Dec 3, 2020 11:04:07 GMT -5
I’m stuck at par player going for perfect and only adjusting for lie, wind, elevation and hazard avoidance. Thus, I am going nowhere in the TGCTours. It’s gotten old playing my 4 rounds and finishing around par, and seeing -30 to -50 scores all over the place. I have practiced a lot, but perfect tempo on my pc with elite 2 control cannot be managed with the slightest consistency. Seems forcing the fast red gives many players a better consistency. I could save many strokes if I could stay in the fairway and hit more greens than I have been able to do playing for perfect. Is it fair to assume most of the low scoring is done with the fast tempo? I just can’t see how a player always setting up for a perfect can score that low. I typically wind up hitting varying degrees of slow or fast and missing many fairways/greens. Have you made the switch to fast tempo? Did it improve your score? I don’t want to play like that, but I don’t see any other alternative to play TGCTour and come close to the level of play needed to make cuts regularly, and challenge for a promotion mark once in awhile. I play for perfects play on the CCA and miss half the cuts and I'm an Xbox 1x player. You can play well if you just let the bad shots go and don't get angry. I'm not gonna shoot -50 unless the course is very easy. Just keep pecking away and if you haven't done calibration of swing tempo in training area I strongly suggest you do it.
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Post by Cecil Harvey on Dec 3, 2020 11:28:58 GMT -5
I’m stuck at par player going for perfect and only adjusting for lie, wind, elevation and hazard avoidance. Thus, I am going nowhere in the TGCTours. It’s gotten old playing my 4 rounds and finishing around par, and seeing -30 to -50 scores all over the place. I have practiced a lot, but perfect tempo on my pc with elite 2 control cannot be managed with the slightest consistency. Seems forcing the fast red gives many players a better consistency. I could save many strokes if I could stay in the fairway and hit more greens than I have been able to do playing for perfect. Is it fair to assume most of the low scoring is done with the fast tempo? I just can’t see how a player always setting up for a perfect can score that low. I typically wind up hitting varying degrees of slow or fast and missing many fairways/greens. Have you made the switch to fast tempo? Did it improve your score? I don’t want to play like that, but I don’t see any other alternative to play TGCTour and come close to the level of play needed to make cuts regularly, and challenge for a promotion mark once in awhile.I am on Platinum and play for perfects on every shot. Granted my ceiling up here is just to make cuts, but it can be done. This week will make 3/9 cuts made for the season and back to no red demotion marks. Problem is that more and more players switch or come in new using the red fast technique. I realize that I am at a disadvantage most likely, but oh well. I cannot see myself enjoying my rounds in the least using that method, but to those that wouldn't mind it then it could help you score better... no guarantees. The immediate impact is that you can go right to longer clubs since you don't have to worry about double misses when trying for a perfect swing and/or trying to not get to the overswing area.
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Post by fransslabak on Dec 4, 2020 10:46:38 GMT -5
I’m stuck at par player going for perfect and only adjusting for lie, wind, elevation and hazard avoidance. Thus, I am going nowhere in the TGCTours. It’s gotten old playing my 4 rounds and finishing around par, and seeing -30 to -50 scores all over the place. I have practiced a lot, but perfect tempo on my pc with elite 2 control cannot be managed with the slightest consistency. Seems forcing the fast red gives many players a better consistency. I could save many strokes if I could stay in the fairway and hit more greens than I have been able to do playing for perfect. Is it fair to assume most of the low scoring is done with the fast tempo? I just can’t see how a player always setting up for a perfect can score that low. I typically wind up hitting varying degrees of slow or fast and missing many fairways/greens. Have you made the switch to fast tempo? Did it improve your score? I don’t want to play like that, but I don’t see any other alternative to play TGCTour and come close to the level of play needed to make cuts regularly, and challenge for a promotion mark once in awhile.I am on Platinum and play for perfects on every shot. Granted my ceiling up here is just to make cuts, but it can be done. This week will make 3/9 cuts made for the season and back to no red demotion marks. Problem is that more and more players switch or come in new using the red fast technique. I realize that I am at a disadvantage most likely, but oh well. I cannot see myself enjoying my rounds in the least using that method, but to those that wouldn't mind it then it could help you score better... no guarantees. The immediate impact is that you can go right to longer clubs since you don't have to worry about double misses when trying for a perfect swing and/or trying to not get to the overswing area. I'm in Platinum as well, go for perfects and even go into the overswing area on almost all shots... so even that can be done! Will land a boatload of demo marks this week though, so maybe the dream is almost over...
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Post by grinder12000 on Dec 4, 2020 11:30:30 GMT -5
I hope not because I can no longer HIT fast - Everything is perfect and slow now!
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Post by ClassAct147 on Dec 4, 2020 11:50:02 GMT -5
Similar to grinder the game wants to give me slows now, but I would rather battle that than lightning fasts.
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Post by hammo24983 on Dec 4, 2020 13:05:28 GMT -5
My advice is try it. Playing for fasts gives you a more predictable right to left flight but it’s not fool proof. There’s plenty of guys playing for fast swings that still struggle at this game. To be good at the game you still have to be able to swing consistently, whether it’s fast or perfect. You still have to judge the lie, the wind etc and you still need a good short game
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Post by donkeypuncherben on Dec 4, 2020 14:57:45 GMT -5
If you're shooting around par switching to fast tempo isn't going to save you 30 shots over 72 holes. I suggest you work on your putting and short game if you want your scores to improve.
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Post by deathstar on Dec 4, 2020 17:13:25 GMT -5
No not really, it depends of what you are looking for. If you want to be really successful quickly then yes you should use that exploit. But if you want to play the game fair and still be successful you will have to practice a lot and it will take much longer to get there.
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Post by booze2407 on Dec 6, 2020 2:49:05 GMT -5
Yes and no.
I think playing a long driver for fast is pretty big in this game to keep up. Using a shorter driver, or any driver really, and going for perfects could kill you. That doesn’t mean fasting in the fairway is easy by any means, just that it’s worth the attempt. However, aside from that you can absolutely be fine going for perfects. Is it easier to fast all day long? Wouldn’t doubt it, I would guess probably... but it’s not necessary. I think the “everyone is going for red fasts” thing is overblown. It would be a bigger annoyance on legend, that’s where the advantage of doing it every shot really comes into play and seems like more of an exploit.
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Post by dime5150 on Dec 6, 2020 11:03:25 GMT -5
The only thing that playing a fast does is make it so you have a predictable ball flight to land a FIR. Approach shots? Useless? Putting? Useless.
People act like this is the first TGC game to offer a predictable way to hit the ball. Maybe this is their first game in the series.
You cant hit very fast, or you will go into the left rough. I think uneducated people think you can just slam the stick 150% everytime and its guaranteed to land in the fairway. Could not be further from the truth. The number of threads on this topic is ridiculous at this point.
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Post by Cecil Harvey on Dec 6, 2020 14:27:08 GMT -5
The only thing that playing a fast does is make it so you have a predictable ball flight to land a FIR. Approach shots? Useless? Putting? Useless. People act like this is the first TGC game to offer a predictable way to hit the ball. Maybe this is their first game in the series. You cant hit very fast, or you will go into the left rough. I think uneducated people think you can just slam the stick 150% everytime and its guaranteed to land in the fairway. Could not be further from the truth. The number of threads on this topic is ridiculous at this point. You do realize that there are people that do that with success, right?Don't read them then?!? I don't know what else to tell you as it takes less skill to play for a fast than to play as the game intended by going for perfects. It also allows and immediate jump to the longest driver and longer clubs elsewhere in a bag setup if one wishes.
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Post by mrohde4 on Dec 6, 2020 15:13:27 GMT -5
The only thing that playing a fast does is make it so you have a predictable ball flight to land a FIR. Approach shots? Useless? Putting? Useless. People act like this is the first TGC game to offer a predictable way to hit the ball. Maybe this is their first game in the series. You cant hit very fast, or you will go into the left rough. I think uneducated people think you can just slam the stick 150% everytime and its guaranteed to land in the fairway. Could not be further from the truth. The number of threads on this topic is ridiculous at this point. Perhaps I’m uneducated but if it’s not easier to get a red fast than a perfect/gray, then why do you think so many players play this way? And you’re right, when players found loopholes in previous versions to hit predictable shots, API metrics were implemented to disqualify their scores. And it’s ok that you can’t hit a fairway without a red fast, that’s kinda the point. The practice range is always there for you.
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Post by thebu11d0g on Dec 7, 2020 7:31:07 GMT -5
I’m new to the game and I play the same way, as in trying to hit perfect gatorman and adjusting for the lie, wind, rough etc ( even though that’s just a guess as well at the moment lol). I’ve just accepted that I’m going to be shooting a lot of + rounds at the minute until i improve and get more consistent. I make sure that I go to the driving round before I start any rounds and go from there.
I’m also going to be playing my Qualifying School rounds this week as well so wish me luck and hopefully I make the cut
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Post by dime5150 on Dec 7, 2020 7:54:10 GMT -5
The only thing that playing a fast does is make it so you have a predictable ball flight to land a FIR. Approach shots? Useless? Putting? Useless. People act like this is the first TGC game to offer a predictable way to hit the ball. Maybe this is their first game in the series. You cant hit very fast, or you will go into the left rough. I think uneducated people think you can just slam the stick 150% everytime and its guaranteed to land in the fairway. Could not be further from the truth. The number of threads on this topic is ridiculous at this point. Perhaps I’m uneducated but if it’s not easier to get a red fast than a perfect/gray, then why do you think so many players play this way? And you’re right, when players found loopholes in previous versions to hit predictable shots, API metrics were implemented to disqualify their scores. And it’s ok that you can’t hit a fairway without a red fast, that’s kinda the point. The practice range is always there for you. Name one example where specific api metrics were put in place to remove certain play styles
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