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Post by bruce on Mar 24, 2015 6:22:49 GMT -5
I must say its an interesting approach, but for me at least it cuts back on my play time. The only time I can get any serious time on my PS4 is on weekends, as this is when the family is out and about doing things. The rest of the week is pretty busy. So now I have one less day to play, either that or stay up late and play my rounds then.
I thought of another alternative, start the rounds on Saturday and end on a Friday, then start the next tournament on Saturday again.
Just a thought.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2015 6:29:01 GMT -5
ya, i will now only be able to get my first two rounds in on thursday on most weeks, risking missing the cut by dq/wd if i have things to do on thursday.
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Post by Oblong on Mar 24, 2015 6:47:07 GMT -5
It is what it is but when I saw the choice I was immediately concerned. First, IRL tourneys end on Sunday and that is my main day I can play due to work and Fri eve to Sat eve is out for religious purpose. Ending tourneys on Saturday is completely counter-intuitive. Had they just shifted everything forward 1 day I would love it. End tourneys on Sunday. Start new tourneys on Monday, etc.
This is going to narrow my personal play schedule severly but I am only 1. If the majority like this then so be it, but was the majority even given an opportunity to show who they were?
Edit disclaimer: I am not whining, I am having fun here and greatly appreciate all the free man-hours that go into this site. I will abide by all decisions. The change excited me because of the overlap issue but it personally is going to put a pinch on MY schedule, if the majority isn't affected then bully on me. If the majority IS affected then TGCTours should be made aware or have asked first, my point.
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Post by crow357 on Mar 24, 2015 7:04:48 GMT -5
So now we have Sun - Thu to get in at least two rounds and then Fri - Sat for the final 2 if we make the cut (assuming that you didn't get all 4 in sometime before).
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Post by woodjer on Mar 24, 2015 8:02:55 GMT -5
Personally, I liked it better the old way. No real reason other than it gave me the whole weekend to wrap up a tourney if I needed to. I can usually sneak in a round or two most nights after the kids are in bed. I'm curious if anyone know when this goes into effect though? Seems strange to announce it in the middle of an event and have it apply immediately but I don't want to assume and risk a DQ because of it. Replied to the email with that question as well. Will update here if I get a response.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2015 8:24:59 GMT -5
tgctours.com, I'm glad you made the change. I was going to suggest something just like this but knew there would be some backlash. Most of us are creatures of habit and having changes made out of our immediate control can be disturbing. My concern was for the staff of tgctours and thought it would be nice if they had a day like Sunday to catch up on stats and all the stuff that goes on behind the scenes. I hope it also gives all of you some bit of relief as maybe it will be easier to co-ordinate some of the administrative duties and take a little time off on Sunday to enjoy yourselves outside of the tgctour world. I'ts a welcome change that I think the vast majority of us can cope with. I feel bad for the few that this will really affect but we are resilient as a species so I'm sure we will adapt. Makes a whole lotta sense to me, -Mike  |
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Post by misternic on Mar 24, 2015 8:38:12 GMT -5
It is what it is but when I saw the choice I was immediately concerned. First, IRL tourneys end on Sunday and that is my main day I can play due to work and Fri eve to Sat eve is out for religious purpose. Ending tourneys on Saturday is completely counter-intuitive. Had they just shifted everything forward 1 day I would love it. End tourneys on Sunday. Start new tourneys on Monday, etc. This is going to narrow my personal play schedule severly but I am only 1. If the majority like this then so be it, but was the majority even given an opportunity to show who they were? Edit disclaimer: I am not whining, I am having fun here and greatly appreciate all the free man-hours that go into this site. I will abide by all decisions. The change excited me because of the overlap issue but it personally is going to put a pinch on MY schedule, if the majority isn't affected then bully on me. If the majority IS affected then TGCTours should be made aware or have asked first, my point. I certainly see these issues. I think the issue was though if you had a wiped out weekend for some reason (out of town, etc), you were dead in the water. Vs with a Sun-Sat, you could play all four rounds on Sunday, be gone the next weekend and not miss out. |
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Post by Pubknight on Mar 24, 2015 9:44:27 GMT -5
I fully understand wanting to close a tournament down a day earlier.
Makes sense... do all the admin work on a weekend (these are volunteers folks).
But I just don't see the downside in leaving the saturday overlap the way it was.
Every other change, reveals, etc. is fine.
But I thought the original 'opening' worked better.
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Post by Oblong on Mar 24, 2015 10:23:49 GMT -5
I can totally respect the change if it was done to help the marshalls and admins facilitate, didnt think of that earlier. It is a pretty tight window for rounds 3 & 4 especially for those who wouldnt want to play until they know if they made the cut or not.
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Post by Doyley on Mar 24, 2015 10:35:51 GMT -5
I can totally respect the change if it was done to help the marshalls and admins facilitate, didnt think of that earlier. It is a pretty tight window for rounds 3 & 4 especially for those who wouldnt want to play until they know if they made the cut or not. The final two rounds fall on two weekend days (friday and saturday) so hopefully that gives people time to find the 45-1 hour required to play two rounds. |
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Post by SmilingGoats on Mar 24, 2015 10:40:50 GMT -5
Guys keep the discussion going, we're listening.
A couple of bits of background so you can all understand why we wanted to make this change.
1) The original plan when we first started TGC Tours was that tournaments would run Monday through Sunday...that where the original timelines came from. We began opening the tournaments in game before the weekend because people wanted extra time to play. That's where the overlap was introduced.
2) We feel that the overlap in tournaments really makes the end of a tournament an afterthought. People have mentally already moved on to the next tournament before we have ended the previous week's tournament.
3) Ending a tournament late on a Saturday evening give the tourney marshals and Doyley all day Sunday (a day off) to verify scores and get the tourney results posted rather than trying to get it done on a Monday (a work day). Beyond those pragmatics, this also allows us to declare a winner on the traditional Sunday tournament day rather than the Monday or Tuesday.
4) The new set up still give one two weekend days to complete their rounds (Sunday of the first weekend and Saturday of the following weekend - three if you count Friday as a weekend).
5) A good percentage of our users are over seas when the deadline was actually on a Monday previously and now will be Sunday.
As I said, we welcome the feedback, keep discussing.
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Post by Pubknight on Mar 24, 2015 11:04:17 GMT -5
Guys keep the discussion going, we're listening. 2) We feel that the overlap in tournaments really makes the end of a tournament an afterthought. People have mentally already moved on to the next tournament before we have ended the previous week's tournament. As I said, we welcome the feedback, keep discussing. I want to be really clear of my intent here. Just trying to discuss things and share thoughts. I'm not arguing, or anything of the like. We are all grown ups discussing something. So, with that said, in the interest of discussion, point 2 is understandable... just not sure getting rid of the 'opening' overlap is going to accomplish what you wish to accomplish. On tours with cuts, approx half the field misses the cut. They have mentally moved on by Thursday, and are eager to go on the next one. They now have to wait one more day to get started. For those missing the cut, Saturday is now a dead/wasted day, that could be better utilized. In terms of an exciting finish, the ones most interested in the finish are the top of the leaderboard folks. I'm not sure if people are excessively leaderboard refreshing to see if they finished 45th versus 47th (said as someone familiar with that leaderboard position) In the spoilers threads, the contenders have already compared in-game leaderboards on each platform well before the end of the tournament. The actual physical dates and reveals are almost inconsequential. So, it seems to me to be a matter of efficiency, and that opening Saturday is not being used to its full potential. As a weekend day, it's extremely valuable. Having it only 'in play' for those that make the cut, or have no cut to worry about... and with a lot of those folks having already completed four rounds by Saturday, it just doesn't seem to be the most efficient use of 'high value calendar property' for the largest number of participants. |
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Post by justamush on Mar 24, 2015 11:11:58 GMT -5
Did anybody think of maybe trying Saturday - Saturday? The pro is that people would have 2 weekend days to complete their first two rounds, and Friday-Saturday to complete their last two if they choose to wait to see if they make the cut. The con is that there is a one day overlap of tournaments.
However, what if we didn't open up the Spoiler threads until Sunday? That way people could play on Saturday if that was their best time to play, but they couldn't post anything about it until Sunday, the official start day of the tourney.
Just a thought.
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Post by Doyley on Mar 24, 2015 11:12:28 GMT -5
Would the option of opening the events the same as it is now (Saturday) but not posting spoiler threads until Monday (after the previous week's event is finalized) be a better workaround?
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Post by justamush on Mar 24, 2015 11:14:58 GMT -5
Would the option of opening the events the same as it is now (Saturday) but not posting spoiler threads until Monday (after the previous week's event is finalized) be a better workaround? you know what they say about great minds |
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