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Jul 7, 2020 8:20:52 GMT -5
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Post by LKeet6 on Jul 7, 2020 8:20:52 GMT -5
(seems like black people need to get it on video, or it didn't happen...) www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jul/06/amy-cooper-charged-black-birdwatcher-new-yorkA woman who called police and falsely accused an African American man of threatening her life after he asked her to leash her dog in New York city’s Central Park is being criminally charged over the incident. Amy Cooper, 41, whose actions on 25 May were recorded in a video that went viral and were widely criticized as an example of everyday racism, is being charged with filing a false report, a class A misdemeanor punishable by up to one year in jail. The incident stirred widespread conversations about racism and how white people treat black people in the US, and it followed other memorable instances of white people calling the police after coming upon black people doing everyday things such as jogging, walking in the park or the street, swimming, having a barbecue or merely gardening. |
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Post by joegolferg on Jul 7, 2020 17:37:14 GMT -5
No I am not black but I was raised to respect my elders and those of authority. I was raised this way too, believe me its not the way to go. |
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Jul 7, 2020 17:39:28 GMT -5
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Post by joegolferg on Jul 7, 2020 17:39:28 GMT -5
Drugs being legal would be a huge step towards reduction in crime and wasted resources. That money and time could be invested in so many better things. The war on drugs has long been lost. Saying people are going to drive high on drugs more because they are legal is retarded. They drive now. Not to mention the reduction in ODs because heroin isn't regulated. Pharma companies made billions off oxy and it was legal. Wut? Did they drive around? That being said BLM is and will be just another Profiteering organization. Total shake down . Remember if the goals are met then they don't exist. It's sad really. You would think a guy like Obama would have been proof America isn't racist at the core. But black people are surrounded by local governments and organizations that exploit their vote. Profiteering organisation but also a Marxist movement? Makes sense... |
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Jul 8, 2020 14:13:12 GMT -5
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Post by LKeet6 on Jul 8, 2020 14:13:12 GMT -5
Stephen Jackson (former NBA player) supporting desean Jackson's wild and baseless Twitter post is f'ing depressing. (I like Stephen jackson.)
The popularity of conspiracy theories in America is f'ing depressing.
Can't believe a fairly sizable amount of black people in America look on Hitler kindly. Believing Hitler's attacks on Jews were in ANY way designed to "help" black people in America is absolutely nuts.
Going for "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" with HITLER??
Saying to the (Jewish) owner of your team "I wasn't talking about you, I wasn't being offensive to you," when he's saying Jews secretly control the world, is absolutely nuts.
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Jul 9, 2020 2:52:53 GMT -5
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Post by LKeet6 on Jul 9, 2020 2:52:53 GMT -5
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Jul 10, 2020 3:51:49 GMT -5
Post by cseanny on Jul 10, 2020 3:51:49 GMT -5
I think people like Deroy Murdock get it right. A quick google search of "Deroy Murdock blm" or "Deroy Murdock Kaepernick" demonstrates his views.
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Jul 10, 2020 4:34:24 GMT -5
Post by LKeet6 on Jul 10, 2020 4:34:24 GMT -5
Looked up (fox news reporter) deroy Murdock's views. Disagreed with him on everything; and/or they were minor points, strawman and whatabouttery deflecting (classic fox strategy) from the real issues.
Many people tend to LOVE it when a black person plays down the stronger views on racism in America, because it makes them feel more comfortable in their world view. "If a black guy is saying it, it must be true." You can complain a bit and we'll feel sorry for you, but don't push it.
So if we're playing that game, here's what a white, former marine, has to say about the statues issue. Absolutely love this; gets the moral/emotional angle spot on, but ALSO the constitutional one (the thing hard right nuts will always jump straight to.)
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Jul 10, 2020 7:13:04 GMT -5
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Post by cseanny on Jul 10, 2020 7:13:04 GMT -5
Odd. I'm a bit curious why your default response is "classic fox strategy", "if a black guy says it", and "hard right nuts". Do you actually believe for one second that giving something an arbitrary label somehow makes it true? You're telling people they're deflecting from the issues but, matter of fact, your first response is name calling, in the tune of 3x, with the bonus of your own strawman via labels (kettle black to Infinity). Regarding my choice of personalities, the Murdock interview happened just 2 days ago, thus, it's one of the newest opinion pieces available. Most importantly though, his comments, especially from a Black man, demonstrate his great courage, integrity, and willingness to speak the truth. How so? His comments will garner enormous hate from other African Americans within his community and our country. Unfortunately, you're intentionally trying to spin him being black and me using him as a source to be a racial tool at my disposal, with the singular purpose of making me feel good about myself. This points the prejudice firmly on your shoulders.Did you even read any of Mr. Murdocks BLM articles? Were you aware that BLM is deliberately falsifying statistics and numbers, which in turn is allowing them to create their own narrative based on misinformation and lies. Manipulation much? He called it "Mythology". This leads directly to protests, hate, and fear.
To end, just like the video you attached, I'm also a US Veteran - I served in the Army from 1991-2004. My point being, I take great pride in our Flag, our Military, and our Country. God Bless America!! I can't think of a greater dishonor than to kneel or use derogatory language regarding our Nation or Flag. There are a 1000 different ways one can protest without disparaging and trampling upon the United States or our Flag. I agree with Mr. Deroy Murdock's sentiments whole heartedly, so without question, of course I would use him as a spokesperson whom I admire and agree with.
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Jul 10, 2020 8:04:47 GMT -5
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Post by LKeet6 on Jul 10, 2020 8:04:47 GMT -5
Odd. I'm a bit curious why your default response is "classic fox strategy", "if a black guy says it", and "hard right nuts". Do you actually believe for one second that giving something an arbitrary label somehow makes it true? You're telling people they're deflecting from the issues but, matter of fact, your first response is name calling, in the tune of 3x, with the bonus of your own strawman via labels (kettle black to Infinity). Regarding my choice of personalities, the Murdock interview happened just 2 days ago, thus, it's one of the newest opinion pieces available. Most importantly though, his comments, especially from a Black man, demonstrate his great courage, integrity, and willingness to speak the truth. How so? His comments will garner enormous hate from other African Americans within his community and our country. Unfortunately, you're intentionally trying to spin him being black and me using him as a source to be a racial tool at my disposal, with the singular purpose of making me feel good about myself. This points the prejudice firmly on your shoulders.Did you even read any of Mr. Murdocks BLM articles? Were you aware that BLM is deliberately falsifying statistics and numbers, which in turn is allowing them to create their own narrative based on misinformation and lies. Manipulation much? He called it "Mythology". This leads directly to protests, hate, and fear.
To end, just like the video you attached, I'm also a US Veteran - I served in the Army from 1991-2004. My point being, I take great pride in our Flag, our Military, and our Country. God Bless America!! I can't think of a greater dishonor than to kneel or use derogatory language regarding our Nation or Flag. There are a 1000 different ways one can protest without disparaging and trampling upon the United States or our Flag. I agree with Mr. Deroy Murdock's sentiments whole heartedly, so without question, of course I would use him as a spokesperson whom I admire and agree with.
I didn't directly respond to you, or use your name. I don't know if many/some/none of those things are true of you, as I don't know you. Hyper sensitive response there. You've posted some controversial opinions, I've responded to the content and context of that. Hence, I wasn't name calling. I know for a fact the "names" I used are true of many people, especially those who watch fox. I don't even know if you personally watch fox though! I don't believe it took any "integrity" and certainly not "bravery" to say those things. You're giving him WAY too much credit there. He's a rich black guy on fox who knew he'd get loads of support and love from his colleagues and white people. It was easy. I'm a bit sick of people labeling EVERYTHING as "BLM." They're a disparate group even within themselves, and much of the protest movement has been all or partly separate from them. Saying the words "black lives matter" doesn't mean you're IN BLM as a group or even necessarily acting in their name. Yes, I'm aware of some criticism of them; I've looked into some of them, some was correct, much was incorrect. I don't see their use of statistics as massively relevant to the overall debate. I don't know what to say about your last paragraph. That's your opinions, and good for you. I personally think a lot Americans are WAY too sensitive about their flag and anthem. Until fairly recently burning the flag was even seen as a legitimate protest. Trump even tweeted a while back saying he was ok with burning the flag. Then all of a sudden everything went crazy and now a guy quietly and respectfully kneeling during a song causes complete apoplectic rage amongst half the country. It's a crazy situation. The irony of these people calling others "snowflake" and crying about "cancel culture" when a guy can't even take a knee 🙄 I agree with the marine corps veteran in the video. |
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Post by SmilingGoats on Jul 10, 2020 9:16:42 GMT -5
Could someone explain to me how this thread doesn't violate our no politics policy?
The original question was whether anyone was participating in the protests. It's basically a yes or no question.
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Jul 10, 2020 9:48:05 GMT -5
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Post by cseanny on Jul 10, 2020 9:48:05 GMT -5
LKeet6 Your overall tone seems calmer, which will help moving forward, ty (no sarcasm). Regarding the Flag, American Heroes of the past, from all races bravely gave their life to secure the freedom we enjoy today. There's no cause or excuse, no matter how noble or sincere it may be, that should take precedent over their sacrifice. The problem we're now facing, is those who decline to kneel are receiving "backlash", sometimes going as far as being labeled a racist, or being unsympathetic to racial equality. sports.yahoo.com/rachel-hill-nwsl-chicago-red-stars-casey-short-julie-ertz-protest-035024162.html For now, this is only biased media propaganda, which can be verified by looking at the comment section. Notice, this is a Yahoo article (extreme liberal), and yet, even on Yahoo, the comments are in the 95-97% range supporting the player who declined to kneel. As this particular movement grows there will inevitably be more and more people whom are AFRAID to be labeled as a racist, therefore, they will eventually fall in line with what the media is selling them. Do Black Lives Matter (not BLM)? The most emphatic Yes I could ever express!! Does racial inequality exist? 100%, no doubt. Is racism in our country as far reaching and chaotic as the media and high profile personalities are telling us? Imo, a definitive No. More than 45 million white people voted for the re-election of Barrack Obama. If people want to support the BLM movement and join any form of protest, that's your 1st Amendment right and I certainly won't hate you for doing it. On the flip side, people need to be afforded the same freedom to reject any organizations or people they disagree with.
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Jul 10, 2020 10:05:44 GMT -5
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Post by LKeet6 on Jul 10, 2020 10:05:44 GMT -5
Could someone explain to me how this thread doesn't violate our no politics policy? The original question was whether anyone was participating in the protests. It's basically a yes or no question. Someone started a thread, conversation is going to, fairly naturally, expand from the initial question. No moderator stepped in until now. Are you honestly expecting 10/20/30 responses of "yes" or "no"?? I will happily stop if asked to by a moderator, but as none have stepped in until now, we seem to have self moderated. Much like the covid thread (which also touches on politics fairly often,) I'd suggest the self moderation has gone pretty well so far... |
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Jul 10, 2020 10:14:19 GMT -5
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Post by LKeet6 on Jul 10, 2020 10:14:19 GMT -5
LKeet6 Your overall tone seems calmer, which will help moving forward, ty (no sarcasm). Regarding the Flag, American Heroes of the past, from all races bravely gave their life to secure the freedom we enjoy today. There's no cause or excuse, no matter how noble or sincere it may be, that should take precedent over their sacrifice. The problem we're now facing, is those who decline to kneel are receiving "backlash", sometimes going as far as being labeled a racist, or being unsympathetic to racial equality. sports.yahoo.com/rachel-hill-nwsl-chicago-red-stars-casey-short-julie-ertz-protest-035024162.html For now, this is only biased media propaganda, which can be verified by looking at the comment section. Notice, this is a Yahoo article (extreme liberal), and yet, even on Yahoo, the comments are in the 95-97% range supporting the player who declined to kneel. As this particular movement grows there will inevitably be more and more people whom are AFRAID to be labeled as a racist, therefore, they will eventually fall in line with what the media is selling them. Do Black Lives Matter (not BLM)? The most emphatic Yes I could ever express!! Does racial inequality exist? 100%, no doubt. Is racism in our country as far reaching and chaotic as the media and high profile personalities are telling us? Imo, a definitive No. More than 45 million white people voted for the re-election of Barrack Obama. If people want to support the BLM movement and join any form of protest, that's your 1st Amendment right and I certainly won't hate you for doing it. On the flip side, people need to be afforded the same freedom to reject any organizations or people they disagree with.
Neither of us needed to be more "calm." (On our initial posts.) That's just your projection of what happened because you got sensitive thinking I was throwing ALL of my comments directly at you. I'm glad you've realised now that I wasn't saying every point was true of you 👍 We were both just making opinionated points. "Calmness" isn't needed, just rationality. Let's not be "snowflakes" about it 😉 The opinions of the guy you posted about are controversial. As were a lot of your follow up points. And as were mine! I know a lot of people in America don't agree with me! Most black people and many white people will DIRECTLY oppose his views. You're again treating BLM as the entire movement against racism. I don't care if people's opinions in a comments section are anti BLM, it's not really the point and, whether people agree with them as an organisation, the main points they're making are supported by a HUGE number of people. So adding up people's anonymous rants in a forum isn't going to influence my view on that. People need to be free to "reject" any organisations, as long as it's not the police, military, anthem signing or flags, you mean? |
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Post by SweetTeeBag on Jul 10, 2020 10:22:57 GMT -5
The problem is 90% of certain people's posts on these "golf forums" only post here and in the Covid thread. It's a joke really they are even on here to begin with.
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Jul 10, 2020 10:42:22 GMT -5
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Post by LKeet6 on Jul 10, 2020 10:42:22 GMT -5
The problem is 90% of certain people's posts on these "golf forums" only post here and in the Covid thread. It's a joke really they are even on here to begin with. I need to be registered here to check on the leaderboards and stuff. I READ almost every part of the forum, especially the course threads, which I check every day. Just because I'm not commenting on them, doesn't mean I'm not using the site and finding it helpful. I always comment on courses after I've played them. I didn't realise I was breaking any rules. There's an off-topic section of the forum, with topics I'm interested in, that are big news in the world right now, that generate a lot of conversation. I'm also active in ones on sports that I'm interested in. I was VERY active in the thread about the new game... If you take it as percentage of threads I've talked in, as opposed to number of comments because, after all, nobody is forcing you to click on these threads, BLM and covid probably make up less than 5%. |
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