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Post by Brionne on Mar 1, 2015 2:53:52 GMT -5
Let's gather some info on ball squirt: how often does it happen to you and approx what is your average scores? It happens often when in tour events.. tournaments are much less.. ave scores mid to low 60swhat clubs seem to do it most? Long irons and occasionally woodswhat theme seems to do it most? Boreal and countrysidedoes it happen when you putt? It used to quite severly, but since HB changed the putting it no longer does ithow strong can it be for you? Sometimes up to 30yrd deviation.. Recent tourney Lion's gate, no adjustments to flop, flat lie, very little wind, ball deviated to 'out of bounds' area.. approx 40yrds. shot was close to white line straightdoes it happen more on a flat tee box or from the fairway? More from the tee boxwhat platform do you play on? PCwhat controller do you use? Xbox 360 wirelesshow strait do you normally hit the ball? 95% Usually within the red coneI had a discussion with HBLorin once before on this.. He said the tee box was obviously not flat.. He checked my shots for me as well.. Left it at that.. I'm not convinced
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Post by coruler2 on Mar 1, 2015 3:09:21 GMT -5
Let's gather some info on ball squirt: how often does it happen to you and approx what is your average scores? It's noticeable about 10 shots a round. Avg around 11 to 13 under par. what clubs seem to do it most? Seems to impact the short irons the most for me. 9-iron and wedges. At least these are most obvious when I aim straight, hit straight with no side wind off a flat tee and it ends up 20ft to the side of the hole.
what theme seems to do it most? Haven't noticed any themes worse than others.does it happen when you putt? Don't think so, and my putting stroke I don't go all the way down and all the way up like on swings if that has any bearing on the squirt factor. how strong can it be for you? Usually pulls or pushes about 15-20ft on short irons, worse obviously on longer shots. does it happen more on a flat tee box or from the fairway? I tend to notice it more from tee boxes which I hope are flat. From the fairway sometimes I'm on a sideslope and it comes off the opposite direction (anti-physics unless HB built-in variation), so it happens on both. what platform do you play on? XB1 about 75% of the time. PC about 25% of the time. Happens on both systems. what controller do you use? XB1 controller for XB1, XB360 controller for PC. how strait do you normally hit the ball? Straight enough to notice this phenomenon and to shoot decent scores.Extra question: Is it related to video lag and 92% power glitch?: Don't think so, I get the 92% power all the time on PC, and never (or very very rarely) on XB1. However, I get ball squirting equally on both.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2015 6:21:32 GMT -5
Let's gather some info on ball squirt: how often does it happen to you and approx what is your average scores? It's noticeable about 10 shots a round. Avg around 11 to 13 under par. what clubs seem to do it most? Seems to impact the short irons the most for me. 9-iron and wedges. At least these are most obvious when I aim straight, hit straight with no side wind off a flat tee and it ends up 20ft to the side of the hole.
what theme seems to do it most? Haven't noticed any themes worse than others.does it happen when you putt? Don't think so, and my putting stroke I don't go all the way down and all the way up like on swings if that has any bearing on the squirt factor. how strong can it be for you? Usually pulls or pushes about 15-20ft on short irons, worse obviously on longer shots. does it happen more on a flat tee box or from the fairway? I tend to notice it more from tee boxes which I hope are flat. From the fairway sometimes I'm on a sideslope and it comes off the opposite direction (anti-physics unless HB built-in variation), so it happens on both. what platform do you play on? XB1 about 75% of the time. PC about 25% of the time. Happens on both systems. what controller do you use? XB1 controller for XB1, XB360 controller for PC. how strait do you normally hit the ball? Straight enough to notice this phenomenon and to shoot decent scores.Extra question: Is it related to video lag and 92% power glitch?: Don't think so, I get the 92% power all the time on PC, and never (or very very rarely) on XB1. However, I get ball squirting equally on both. I can just copy this, except that Im 100 % on a PC, only uses mouse, and I never have the 92% issues. Personally I think that problem is related to your GPU, and using to high settings that your card cant cope with. The squirting is really bad. Im always, in 90 % of the cases, on the left side of the pin.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2015 6:53:50 GMT -5
One question to add - how's your network? The 92% bug seems network / server related. Maybe they are connected? My connection could certainly be better. This might explain a lot and a light certainly has come on for me. But I will preface it by saying I have had a lot of these wolla moments on this issue. But it does explain why it works great in the designer as that runs from your platform without need for network connection. Only it is easy to test, off to offline mode, will report back.
Edit: 1 round in offline mode. Ok it's an easy course, but if there was any squirt, I would say it was maybe 2 and clearly tied to my axis hit and maybe just a slight exaggeration of the miss, as I was paying attention so I would say I had absolutely no issue with the round at all.
Well we have the problem, we have the solution although I have no idea how to determine if my connection to the servers is good or not.
So who is the expert here anyone? how do we get strong connections, it obviously runs through steam to hbs, seems it would be dependant on my connection to steam, steam's connection to HBS and back again. Anyone have any idea.
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Post by xusemagru on Mar 1, 2015 11:02:13 GMT -5
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Post by Brionne on Mar 1, 2015 11:12:54 GMT -5
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Post by ForePlay on Mar 1, 2015 14:27:49 GMT -5
PS4 stock controller. Probably not good enough to notice the squirt effect, but I do notice the power loss "bug" a lot more in the last few weeks. It seems to be getting more frequent. It seems to happen a lot more when the game constantly contacts the server (playing with live ghost balls especially). In weeks past, you wouldn't see the little symbol in the lower right corner during a round. What's odd is some days , it seems to be a non issue (rare days).
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Post by bentfivewood on Mar 1, 2015 15:51:50 GMT -5
PS4 stock controller. Probably not good enough to notice the squirt effect, but I do notice the power loss "bug" a lot more in the last few weeks. It seems to be getting more frequent. It seems to happen a lot more when the game constantly contacts the server (playing with live ghost balls especially). In weeks past, you wouldn't see the little symbol in the lower right corner during a round. What's odd is some days , it seems to be a non issue (rare days). A conversation about ball squirt would not be complete without a little bit of ForePlay. Too easy? Maybe.
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Post by Brionne on Mar 1, 2015 15:53:55 GMT -5
PS4 stock controller. Probably not good enough to notice the squirt effect, but I do notice the power loss "bug" a lot more in the last few weeks. It seems to be getting more frequent. It seems to happen a lot more when the game constantly contacts the server (playing with live ghost balls especially). In weeks past, you wouldn't see the little symbol in the lower right corner during a round. What's odd is some days , it seems to be a non issue (rare days). A conversation about ball squirt would not be complete without a little bit of ForePlay. Too easy? Maybe. Hahahaha.... I was waiting for someone to start.. nice
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Post by Knock25Out on Mar 1, 2015 16:05:51 GMT -5
Might just be me, I feel like everything tends to go left. A 6 mph wind to the left feels like a 10 mph to the right. I hit it nearly straight every time normally, maybe a little left but not really noticeable. I will say that for me, ball squirt happens on the same holes on a course. There will be at least one par 3 on a course that after 2 rounds I realize I have to aim 10 yards right or left to land by the hole in no wind. Same will go for fairway shots. And at least on this weeks Euro course I had two holes where I always got 92%, I have a wired internet connection so that shouldn't be an issue. Its just weird but doesn't seem like a coincidence.
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Post by MLT24 on Mar 1, 2015 19:08:30 GMT -5
OK I found somewhere that described "ball squirt."
Well being there is no real way for me to exactly test this without having a "straight shooting " controller, but on my PS4 I have come to think this "squirt" response is due to back-swing. When I get a perfect white line sometimes it goes perfectly straight at target, sometimes it goes further offline than I think it should have. But the more this has happened to me, I feel like my back-swing not being straight is the cause. IT appears to me the game only recognizes straight = solid white line, on the downswing or follow through. I know I have swung inside before and still got a perfect white line. And when I get the squirt effect 9/10 I feel like my back-swing was not straight enough. I guess I am saying a straight white line may not be the whole truth representing my swing.
I am not saying this is a fact, it is just something I have come to feel in my swing with my results and have come to deal with.
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Post by kulch on Mar 1, 2015 19:58:59 GMT -5
how often does it happen to you and approx what is your average scores? approx 5-8 shots per round what clubs seem to do it most? irons and approach shots what theme seems to do it most? all of them does it happen when you putt? no how strong can it be for you? puts a good shot 20ft from the hole, sometime missing the green if the pin isnt in the centre of green does it happen more on a flat tee box or from the fairway? mixed, it happens on both. one could discount a faiway from lie slope but when it happens on the tee u know there is a problem. its the red flag what platform do you play on? PC what controller do you use? Xbone how strait do you normally hit the ball? seldom miss the red cone, dials in drives to 101%, usually get about 5 perfect straight lines per round, these squirt too
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Post by nevadaballin on Mar 1, 2015 20:50:23 GMT -5
Answer: Not good enough to tell if it was user error or programming error. Not trying to be funny, I just figure when a seemingly straight shot goes astray that I misread my left/right sidehill lie in combination with wind read error and being slightly off a perfect straight white line. If it is a random programming error, I'm good with it because "that's golf" and people are shooting lights out despite. ^^^ until we get the lie grid that Anthony talked about, we won't know for sure. Hoping that is in the upcoming update this week. In case anyone missed it, Anthony mentioned having a grid box under the ball outside the green so we could see the lie better. I imagine it's just one box with the ball in the center.
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Post by mcbogga on Mar 1, 2015 21:22:40 GMT -5
I really hope they make that grid an option in that case and that TGCT does not implement.
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Post by t2theb2 on Mar 2, 2015 3:03:18 GMT -5
I can't see a grid helping to be honest as the ball definetly goes the opposite way from your lie sometimes. The physics are not true to the lie for certain. A green grid would at least prove were not all mad in thinking this.
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