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Post by paulus on Aug 5, 2019 9:34:49 GMT -5
Agree that is was a poor showing after the first innings for us - but Smith was the main difference. I heard it was the first time he had a century in both innings in a match - at any level. Just loves giving it to the English....
Assuming he can't do it every test - we have every chance against the rest of the Aussie team in the remaining matches. If he keeps it up tho... we could be staring down the barrel...
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Post by Warwick Todd on Aug 5, 2019 9:41:12 GMT -5
Wade got a ton at 6 on a day 4 pitch, Head looked good at 5 in both innings, and Warner just made the most runs in the World Cup (maybe 2nd by a run?) so is red hot to go. When you add Starc I’m confident we have your number right now over 5 days.
Could be wrong, won’t be the last time I make an outlandish prediction.
5-0 until proven otherwise 🙏🏼
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Post by SMIFFYLFC79 on Aug 6, 2019 0:57:22 GMT -5
Have to agree with the above post's last sentence Dismissal display with the bat, what was Roy thinking, shocking shot choice, Woakes my Eng MOTM, looked comfortable with the bat, took wickets. More to come from Burns, Root looked lost at 3, Denly offered little with the bat, bowled ok though, Both Buttler & Stokes looked and played like they had a WC hangover, Bairstow where has his batting gone, Ali rubbish, night and day between him and Lyon, blimey Root turned the ball more than he did, Broad worked hard, Anderson should not have started, but boy did we miss him, he can find a way to swing the ball when others can't. As for Aussie's, wanted to say they are another India, 1 Man batting team, but found runs down the card in innings 2. Smith different class. Lyon unplayable on that track. As for Test 2, Ali out, Curren in, might find some movement in the air and Archer for Anderson to doink Smith on the bash hat with a 94mph delivery and concuss him for 4 day's
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Post by SMIFFYLFC79 on Aug 6, 2019 5:36:06 GMT -5
Bit of Cricket 19.
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Post by Warwick Todd on Aug 7, 2019 11:30:25 GMT -5
Been on Exiled Island ™️, so brace yourself for a wall of completely cricket related words.
Game looks ok mate. Decent pill on that first wicket, hooped it. 2nd and 3rd wicket should have been hit for 6 or left alone lol It looks very similar to the one I have, obviously it’s refined a bit. Which platform are you on for this? Would consider getting it if you were up for a live test or one dayer once I know what I’m doing. Maybe even T20. Could be over as many sessions as you like for a test or 50 over job. Have all 3 platforms so just a week or two and I’ll budget it in 👌🏻
Bold call saying we’re a one batsman team. Definitely got the hackles up being compared to those Indian grubs 😂
Take Smiths runs off our total and we still won it by 15 or so with a declaration. That’s comprehensive to say the least.
Warner is the 2nd or 3rd best Batman on either side - top 5 in the world in tests regardless of rankings. Depending on how he and Root play decides who is 2nd behind Smith in this series I think. Root is classy AF to watch - but an opener that averages 55 at a run a ball (when on) can win you a test in a session.
Again - I thought Head looked better than Smith. He got 2 absolute jaffa’s, but both times they were together Head scored easier and in my opinion just looked - better. Wade scored a decent ton on a 4th day pitch - without Smiths heroics he’d have been the batsman that put us in a position to win. Pattinson is better than people think, he bats ahead of Cummings and looked good. I think right now Payne is a competent gloveman and serviceable batsman, but both Wade and Carey from the World Cup would be ahead of him were he not playing the role of Smiths (and Langers) puppet as captain. Until his batting becomes a problem, or he does as I think and retires soon (completing the picture as all round good guy) - he’ll keep his spot.
I’ll save my critique of your batting till last - it’s worth the wait I promise 😉.
Woakes was good with ball, so was Broad. Stokes did his job well. The rest were either part timers or Ali, who’s just horrendously mind @!$#ed by us in 5 day games. Anderson missing hurt you for sure. There’s no telling what difference it would have made having him available when we were 8-122. He decided to play though, he must have known he was iffy. Poor play at his age - as bad as bowling trash effectively.
Onwards - Massive (MASSIVE) ask to expect Joffra to carry the weight of a country in his shoulders when he’s never even played a 5 day game before. Also a massive difference between blasting a guy out with a white ball knowing you’re bowling 60 balls max and trundling in after 16 overs on a hot day. That goes to ticker... He’s slippery, but no quicker than Starc, Cummings or Pattinson - and I KNOW those guys won’t be nervous about debuting, and given this pitch will be doctored to try and get Smith out - Our quicks are absolutely salivating right now I’m sure. As a former quick myself, I know from experience that there’s a whole lotta moving parts need to coordinate to bowl fast, as well as accurate. Young, inexperienced guys are as likely to bowl out of their skin as horrendous - so he may fulfil the wishes of a nation, who knows? I think he’s good for cricket though and wish him well (ish).
Your batting...
I’m glad Burns made a ton because now he’ll play all 5 tests. That was a horrible century. Honestly. He played and missed so much I’m confident he’s played the innings of his life. Luck runs out. Roy - unfit for test cricket until proven otherwise with a gutsy innings in County. Root needs someone around him he can trust at 4, or to go back there himself. Denly’s bowling wasn’t good enough for him to bat like that. I’d remove Bairstows gloves and have him at 4. Stokes was ok with bat. Ali batted as he bowled - Trash. Bairstow as stated - needed as a specialist batsman more than a serviceable gloveman averaging not many with gloves on. Woakes was good, Broad was gifted 30 before we bowled short to him which infuriated me but he did well.
Onwards - For me, Roy dropped for a real 4 day opener, Ali’s gotta go, Joffra in for Jimmy and Denly unlucky to go for the best gloveman/no.7 you have. Bairstow to 4.
Keen to hear opinions, come at me lads 👍🇦🇺🍻
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Post by paulus on Aug 7, 2019 12:16:55 GMT -5
Been on Exiled Island ™️, so brace yourself for a wall of completely cricket related words. That was quite a post - have you turned into Ron? What did you do this time?
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Post by Giraffe72 on Aug 7, 2019 13:58:09 GMT -5
Been on Exiled Island ™️ Bold call saying we’re a one batsman team. Definitely got the hackles up being compared to those Indian grubs 😂 Take Smiths runs off our total and we still won it by 15 or so with a declaration. That’s comprehensive to say the least. Yeah maybe, but it was Smith (with support from Siddle) who kept you in the game on Day 1. Didn't see much resistance from the rest of your star-studded line up... Woakes was good with ball, so was Broad. Stokes did his job well. The rest were either part timers or Ali, who’s just horrendously mind @!$#ed by us in 5 day games. Anderson missing hurt you for sure. There’s no telling what difference it would have made having him available when we were 8-122. He decided to play though, he must have known he was iffy. Poor play at his age - as bad as bowling trash effectively. Can't disagree with any of that. Either Curran or Rashid in for Ali. Onwards - Massive (MASSIVE) ask to expect Joffra to carry the weight of a country in his shoulders when he’s never even played a 5 day game before. Also a massive difference between blasting a guy out with a white ball knowing you’re bowling 60 balls max and trundling in after 16 overs on a hot day. Correct, but we're always the optimists and love to build up young players REALLY high so that then they've got further to fall when we knock them down again.... But I don't know, he just seems to have that little something about him. Time will tell, I'm very happy he's getting his chance and hope we stick with him even if it doesn't go well straight away. Your batting... I’m glad Burns made a ton because now he’ll play all 5 tests. That was a horrible century. Honestly. He played and missed so much I’m confident he’s played the innings of his life. Luck runs out . Actually couldn't agree more with that. Credit to him for sticking to his task but he never once looked on top of the bowlers (like Smith and Wade) at any point in over a day of batting! Roy - unfit for test cricket until proven otherwise with a gutsy innings in County . Actually I disagree with that, despite the horrific manner of his 2nd innings dismissal. If he could just refine what he does a bit I could see him playing a similar role to Banger. He didn't hang about either, a couple of sessions of him batting can take a game away. I'd stick with Roy for now. Root needs someone around him he can trust at 4, or to go back there himself. Denly’s bowling wasn’t good enough for him to bat like that. I’d remove Bairstows gloves and have him at 4. Stokes was ok with bat. Ali batted as he bowled - Trash. Bairstow as stated - needed as a specialist batsman more than a serviceable gloveman averaging not many with gloves on. Woakes was good, Broad was gifted 30 before we bowled short to him which infuriated me but he did well .Can't disagree with any of that. Don't suppose you can lend us a batsman? Keen to hear opinions, come at me lads 👍🇦🇺🍻Cheers
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Post by Warwick Todd on Aug 7, 2019 14:22:01 GMT -5
Been on Exiled Island ™️, so brace yourself for a wall of completely cricket related words. That was quite a post - have you turned into Ron? What did you do this time? Just Beginner thread Shenanigans. Ray doing Ray things... Hardly Ron like, was going for a Lazza (pbuh) style 😞 I’d tell you what I really think, but I’m not allowed any more 😜
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Post by Warwick Todd on Aug 7, 2019 14:32:47 GMT -5
True on the top order in the first, but it happens. (85 v 🇮🇪 rings a bell 😏) - Doesn’t make us a one man batting line up. And even if we were, we still wouldn’t be like India lol. Grubby buggers 😋
Hope you’re wrong on Roy Jamie, if he delivers it could be spectacular but I just don’t think Test cricket is a training ground, County is. Or it should be anyway.
As always happy to be bold. Won’t kill me to be wrong if he fires.
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Post by Warwick Todd on Aug 7, 2019 21:04:19 GMT -5
Warm up game points of interest - 1-80 odd for Archer against a 2nd string (glouster I think?) side. Head made a ton, Starc looking certain to play.
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Post by SMIFFYLFC79 on Aug 8, 2019 0:23:54 GMT -5
Roy will play all 5 tests regardless England are looking for him to adapt to test cricket so he will be given time. Burns will play all 5 tests England are looking for an opening pair and at county level Burns is best over last 2 seasons. I would move Bairstow to 3 (My original team page or 2 back), Root back to 4, Stokes then Buttler (WK), Denly 7 he can Bowl, bowls alot for county side, classed as a part timer i find a bit harsh.Woakes 8, Curran in at 9, can bat and can swing the ball. Broad 10, Archer 11 as the 2nd string game (s) he is playing are fitness tests after all, plus 6-27 and a rapid ton is not to shabby what ever level of cricket. Off track for a second, anyone see Leicestershire V Birmingham T20 last night, Ackermann off spinner 7-18 bowling figures best T20 figures in the world. As for saying Aussie's are a 1 man batting side, I was referring to 1st Innings 122-8 u was in dire trouble, u put that at 150 all out different game all together, Siddle and Smith especially got you out of trouble. Smith, like Kohli play a totally different game to anyone else, making the game look so easy (must be the name ). Will Starc play at Lords? Yes I believe he will, but who will miss out? Siddle or Pattinson? I like Siddle Line and Length man, not many gimme's, Pattinson looks like a red rag to a ball at times, he's fired up. Big game next week, Draw would suit Aussie's puts more Pressure on England, but I feel we have to win next week or as Warwick stated 5-0 is defo on the card's.
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Post by Warwick Todd on Aug 8, 2019 1:10:29 GMT -5
Denly at 7 would definitely change the expectations on his batting, not sure his bowling was really good enough to be your front line option. Depends on the pitch. If it’s as green as expected maybe spinner won’t play a big part. Our lad Gazza doesn’t mind if it’s green, he bowls with a heap of topspin and Warney always said if it seams it’ll spin, you’ve just gotta get the pill out of the quicks hands and get a shot at it.
Roy keeping and going down the order makes sense. I’m not sure on his ability with the gloves but if he’s serviceable then he should be trying to be like Gilchrist and bat at 7 to get a rest from keeping. Gilly wasnt a patch on Healy as a gloveman, which is why Gilly didn’t play tests till his mid/late 20’s..Tough gig though, Bairstow didn’t make any doing and he’s a quality batsman - I’d hate to see Bairstow waste his batting talent the way Alec Stewart did. He was a gun, but could have been so much more without the gloves.
Think you’ve picked one too many quicks. Stokes is as good as any seamer short of the absolute elite - he’s a true all rounder than would hold his spot as a specialist batsman or bowler. I think he’ll end up better than Freddy with the bat and equal-ish with pill. Woakes and Broad to open, then Archer and Stokes is 4 good’uns - I’m just not sure about Denly still - could be expensive...
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Post by stokie1947 on Aug 14, 2019 7:27:50 GMT -5
it is simply not good enough we won't win the ashes UNLESS our bowlers do it for us i see we have brought in Curran to the squad another all rounder also our record against the Aussies at Lords is woeful i fear it's going to be a long summer
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Post by paulus on Aug 14, 2019 10:21:24 GMT -5
@thread - Ray (Warwick) has been permanently banned from the TGC forums - I'm not getting involved! But he's asked me to highlight that he's hanging out at the TGCT Politicos forum with a new cricket thread... where atm he's talking to himself.... tgct-politicos.proboards.com/thread/13/cricket-jimminy-typeI told him he's probably not that big a draw But he seems to think you'll all want to rush over there to talk cricket nonsense with him...
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Post by AFCTUJacko on Aug 14, 2019 10:53:36 GMT -5
Oh come on, who wouldn't want to find out what a googly is.....
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