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Post by cliffs on Apr 23, 2019 5:56:51 GMT -5
So far, the HBO series “Game of Thrones” has mostly stuck to the words that George R. R. Martin wrote in the “Song of Ice and Fire” books. ... Those books will also (allegedly) comprise the show's fifth season. The sixth season will presumably be based on the sixth book, which isn't written yet.
A Game of Thrones(1996)
A Clash of Kings(1998)
A Storm of Swords(2000)
A Feast For Crows(2005)
A Dance with Dragons(2011)
The Winds of Winter(unreleased)
A Dream of Spring(unreleased)
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Post by JosiaDB on Apr 23, 2019 7:24:11 GMT -5
If you are talking about the Lady Stoneheart... I don't think that storyline is going to hit the TV series. Also this last season is only 6 episodes, not 10.
I was. I just thought it was a cool storyline, that would go somewhere, and most TV viewers that didn't read the books don't really realize what happened to her, after the wedding, and Arya/Nymeria's part in it.
Its only 6 episodes?? So we only have 4 more?
Maybe there are just going to end the show with book 6 and do book 7 as an addon one day, if Martin ever gets around to finishing it.
EDIT: cliffs we are now in season 8, and they have said its the last season of the show, and only in book 6, Winds of Winter, is my point. Dream of Spring is a whole other book, (1000 pages worth of stuff, presumably) that is set 5 years after Winds, as sort of a very long epilogue. |
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Post by cliffs on Apr 23, 2019 9:22:05 GMT -5
If you are talking about the Lady Stoneheart... I don't think that storyline is going to hit the TV series. Also this last season is only 6 episodes, not 10.
I was. I just thought it was a cool storyline, that would go somewhere, and most TV viewers that didn't read the books don't really realize what happened to her, after the wedding, and Arya/Nymeria's part in it.
Its only 6 episodes?? So we only have 4 more?
Maybe there are just going to end the show with book 6 and do book 7 as an addon one day, if Martin ever gets around to finishing it.
EDIT: cliffs we are now in season 8, and they have said its the last season of the show, and only in book 6, Winds of Winter, is my point. Dream of Spring is a whole other book, (1000 pages worth of stuff, presumably) that is set 5 years after Winds, as sort of a very long epilogue. The folks at HBO have been off book for some time now and when asked about book 6, this was George's response. “No, winter is not coming… not in 2018, at least. You're going to have to keep waiting for 'THE WINDS OF WINTER,'” he wrote So assuming HBO are in book 6, well we can't do that as it never was written. This is all imagination time. |
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Post by JosiaDB on Apr 23, 2019 11:24:39 GMT -5
true, but he did tell them what the main points of it were going to be, so they wouldn't stray too far off the path. |
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Post by Brighttail on Apr 23, 2019 14:54:46 GMT -5
So lets do a little game of who do you think is or is not going to die in the Battle of Winterfell. This is only for Episode 3, not for the rest of the season. Here is my list of those that survive or die in Episode 3.
Jon Snow - I think he remains alive as long as the Night King lives, after that. Alive (to at least have that talk with Danny again)
Danny - She needs to see the Iron Throne at least. - Alive Sansa Stark - Whether Winterfell survives or falls, a Stark must be there to run/rebuild. - Alive Bran Stark - If he dies, so does the memory of all men. I'm torn on this one because killing him would be so GOT. - Alive Arya Stark - Her list of people to kill is who she is, there are still people on that list. She goes to King's Landing. - Alive Jamie Lannister - I think he has to live to at least see Bronn & more likely to see his sister. - Alive Tyrion Lannister - Killing him before the finale would seem pointless. -Alive Cersei Lannister/The Mountain/Euron Greyjoy/Qyburn- They aren't even at Winterfell. - Alive Brienne of Tarth - Now knighted, she has achieved everything she has wanted. I think she dies defending her last charge. -DEAD Theon Greyjoy - Redemption by defending WInterfell, even unto his death. - DEAD Sam, Gilly, Little Sam Tarley - All will survive the battle. Someone needs to record and write the story of Fire & Ice. - Alive Davos Seaworth - Knights rarely get to grow old. He's already old. This is a sentimental pick. He survives this battle. - Alive Varys - Prophecy says he will die but I don't think it will be here. He can still be useful in King's Landing. - Alive Jorah Mormont - His only desire is to see Danny succeed, sadly I think this is his final battle. He'll be forgiven by Lyanna. - ? Melisandre - She isn't here but that doesn't mean she won't be. If she shows up, she dies. - Dead if shows up The Hound - He has unfinished business with his brother. We won't be cheated of that. - Alive Bronn - Him getting to Winterfell so quickly after being in King's Landing seems really far fetched. - Alive Tormund Giantsbane - The Freefolk still needs a leader, no one else has stepped up. - Alive Gendry - His job is done. No more smithing of Dragonglass needed. He also slept with Arya. His arc is over. - Dead Yara Greyjob - She isn't here but she may end up providing ships for a way to escape the undead. - Alive Greyworm - Just has professed his love & future plans with Missandei. An unfortunate series sees him - Dead Missandei - A tough one especially if Greyworm dies. I'm going to go with a tragic love ending. - Dead Beric Dondarrion - This guy has died so many times, what is one more? Perhaps he uses his last live to raise another? - Dead Podrick Payne - The Squire of the newest knight. The student needs to go forth and be the master & train others. - Alive Lyanna Mormont - The only way I see Jorah living is if she dies & he can take her place. One of the Mormonts live, which? - ? Eddison Toilett - Last of 3 of the Night Watch group we started with. His watch ends. - Dead
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Post by cliffs on Apr 23, 2019 16:12:39 GMT -5
After reading your list I assume the White Walkers do not win the war?
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Post by Brighttail on Apr 23, 2019 16:14:48 GMT -5
After reading your list I assume the White Walkers do not win the war? Wouldn't that be a kick in the balls.  8 seasons and everyone dies. Thanks for visiting Westeros! |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2019 21:17:53 GMT -5
Dani will die, as a sacrifice. She’ll spend a winter, a summer, and winter again with her 3 children, the dragons - as referenced in the second verse of the song from this weeks ep.
*not my theory, one I read online
Best episode of the whole series I thought, had goosebumps for most of it.
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Post by Brighttail on Apr 23, 2019 21:34:23 GMT -5
Dani will die, as a sacrifice. She’ll spend a winter, a summer, and winter again with her 3 children, the dragons - as referenced in the second verse of the song from this weeks ep. *not my theory, one I read online Best episode of the whole series I thought, had goosebumps for most of it. Brienne being knighted was the best part. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2019 22:22:53 GMT -5
Best episode of the whole series I thought, had goosebumps for most of it. Ditto, I was blown away. Sad to say I cringed and rolled my eyes pretty much non-stop in episode 1 from all the cheesy one-liners and it all but killed my excitement. Especially after the very rushed season 7, I thought christ is it really going to be more of this hollywood action-flick crap... This latest episode brought back some of the wonderful dialogue and character interactions that made me fall in love with the story in the first place, it was perfect. |
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Post by cliffs on Apr 24, 2019 11:58:48 GMT -5
One prophecy from the books that we are probably going to see unfold in episode three of the final season of GoT: One that Jon Snow (or should we say Aegon Targaryen?) had about Winterfell.
This past Sunday during episode two, the crypts beneath Winterfell were mentioned no less than 77 times. The women and children are going to the be in the crypts hiding out from the white walkers…except, as Jon Snow's dream references, the ACTUAL DEAD are also in crypts. As in, the dead Stark kings, queens, lords and ladies of history. Ned Stark, Jon Snow's real mother Lyanna Stark and all the ancestors of the great House of Winterfell are there.
So this dream/prophecy indicates what we feared to be true: That the Stark ancestors will awaken from their crypts in episode three due to the Night King's arrival and his magical powers to reanimate the dead.
The one question remains, though. Will the dead Starks fight for the living, or for the dead? Will the Night King be able to control them just like he controls the other wights, or is there some sort of ancient Stark magic that protects them? Perhaps Bran can use his Three-Eyed Raven powers to control the Stark kings and queens who have been raised from their stone graves.
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Post by Brighttail on Apr 24, 2019 13:45:42 GMT -5
One prophecy from the books that we are probably going to see unfold in episode three of the final season of GoT: One that Jon Snow (or should we say Aegon Targaryen?) had about Winterfell. This past Sunday during episode two, the crypts beneath Winterfell were mentioned no less than 77 times. The women and children are going to the be in the crypts hiding out from the white walkers…except, as Jon Snow's dream references, the ACTUAL DEAD are also in crypts. As in, the dead Stark kings, queens, lords and ladies of history. Ned Stark, Jon Snow's real mother Lyanna Stark and all the ancestors of the great House of Winterfell are there. So this dream/prophecy indicates what we feared to be true: That the Stark ancestors will awaken from their crypts in episode three due to the Night King's arrival and his magical powers to reanimate the dead. The one question remains, though. Will the dead Starks fight for the living, or for the dead? Will the Night King be able to control them just like he controls the other wights, or is there some sort of ancient Stark magic that protects them? Perhaps Bran can use his Three-Eyed Raven powers to control the Stark kings and queens who have been raised from their stone graves. I have been wondering about this. It would be interesting if someone like Lyanna Stark comes back to be a presence. She herself could verify Jon's claim to Danny and others. Either way, I'm with you. I think something big is going to happen in the crypts. I think it will be bad at first and then something or someone will show up to rally the Stark dead against the undead. Starks will always defend Winterfell. |
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Post by JosiaDB on Apr 24, 2019 15:37:45 GMT -5
I'll play your game Brighttail and pepper it with some random thoughts-
If the Whitewalkers win, Jon and Dany both survive, by jumping on their dragons and hightailing out of there. If this happens, Jon might grab Sansa and save her.
Tyrion is smart, and I think they will keep him around, so he may hide somewhere during the mayhem. Wouldn't surprise me if in the epilogue, they show him at 80 yrs old, belly full of wine, dying just like he always says. Has the theory that he is the third head of the Targaryens been debunked, or still active? Could the three headed dragon still be Jon as King, Dany as his aunt-wife queen, and step bro Tyrion as his hand?
What about the whole Red Priest prophecy, where Stannis thought he was the 'one'? Obviously he wasn't, and Melisandre was the one that brought Jon back, for a reason. But have we seen the true Lightbringer? Was the one that Stannis had just a fake? ( I honestly can't remember if that sword he had flamed on its own, or he manually lit it)
Ghost!! Was so neat seeing Ghost again, even if it was just a quick in the background shot. Ghost survives if Jon survives.
Arya can just fade into a shadow somewhere and survive. I think she will be the Cersei killer.
My thought is that Sam will survive, and eventually end up as a head of the citadel, but not sure about Gilly or little Sam. (I've forgotten, is little Sam actually a little Sam? or is that Little Mance?)
As far as everyone else, all bets are off, they might just kill EVERYONE else that is there. That would be just like GoT. Most viewers might expect some, but not everyone.
Definite or probable goners-
Brienne - like you said, she got all she wanted. That knighting scene was amazing though, I agree with the others. Davos - I think he's finally done.
Theon - I bet he dies defending Bran or Sansa. Maybe both. Dies getting one or both to Yara.
The little Shireen looking girl - Davos told her she'd be safe, so she's a goner. In a cruel twist, Davos might live, but see her die, or dead. Greyworm and Missandei - same thoughts as you on that one Jorah - He got that sword, so yeah, he may be gone. Might end up using the sword to save Sam.
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Post by Brighttail on Apr 24, 2019 16:45:05 GMT -5
That would be the other side conversation, how many of those that die will come back at night walkers and who has to kill them? Arya dies and has to be killed by Jon. Jon dies and has to be killed by Danny, ect. |
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Post by cliffs on Apr 24, 2019 17:04:09 GMT -5
Gawd I wish George would write the last 2 books.
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8 seasons and everyone dies. Thanks for visiting Westeros!