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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2019 13:20:33 GMT -5
Do you want to pick up one of the claimables? Also, you could move Eastward Ho to the 'claimable courses' section. |
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Post by lessangster on Apr 3, 2019 14:27:16 GMT -5
Hartlepool Golf Club in the UK would be a great course to do with Lidar it has some great terrain. Interesting bit of coastline.  |
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Post by gheebuttersnaps on Apr 3, 2019 15:12:31 GMT -5
Do you want to pick up one of the claimables? Also, you could move Eastward Ho to the 'claimable courses' section. I have another project I'll be starting up, but I'll move Eastward Ho! to the claimable section. Thanks. |
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Post by andyf on Apr 3, 2019 15:22:54 GMT -5
Do you want to pick up one of the claimables? Also, you could move Eastward Ho to the 'claimable courses' section. I have another project I'll be starting up, but I'll move Eastward Ho! to the claimable section. Thanks. My home town and my brother used to be a member at Hartlepool. Seaton Carew would also be a good one to have a go at Andy |
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Post by lessangster on Apr 3, 2019 15:36:02 GMT -5
I have another project I'll be starting up, but I'll move Eastward Ho! to the claimable section. Thanks. My home town and my brother used to be a member at Hartlepool. Seaton Carew would also be a good one to have a go at Andy Is Seaton not to long to fit on the map, it’s a lovely course I’ve played it a few times. |
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Post by chadgolf on Apr 3, 2019 21:56:21 GMT -5
Is Seaton not to long to fit on the map, it’s a lovely course I’ve played it a few times. This course appears to be 2100 meters long, along the longest dimension. Would have no problems fitting if rotated. BUT it should be noted that the lidar tools, if the OSM holes are mapped, can completely ignore the map limits and seems to be able to expand as much as you need. No guarantees this works forever, but for now, the map size limit (2000x2000 meters) seems to just be a suggestion. |
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Post by lessangster on Apr 4, 2019 11:19:07 GMT -5
Is Seaton not to long to fit on the map, it’s a lovely course I’ve played it a few times. This course appears to be 2100 meters long, along the longest dimension. Would have no problems fitting if rotated. BUT it should be noted that the lidar tools, if the OSM holes are mapped, can completely ignore the map limits and seems to be able to expand as much as you need. No guarantees this works forever, but for now, the map size limit (2000x2000 meters) seems to just be a suggestion. I realised I could lay it diagonal. chadgolf is it not possible to produce terrain data using composite Lidar @25cm |
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Post by chadgolf on Apr 4, 2019 11:48:32 GMT -5
No composite lidars right now. I don’t think they will be as accurate as pointclouds for making golf courses.
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Post by lessangster on Apr 4, 2019 11:50:47 GMT -5
No composite lidars right now. I don’t think they will be as accurate as pointclouds for making golf courses. Wouldn’t it give you the rough heights then you edit from there, it’s easier than editing a totally flat course. Not that I have a PC to create them on yet. |
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Post by chadgolf on Apr 4, 2019 12:18:07 GMT -5
The idea currently is that composite data at some point was generated by pointclouds. So the data exists, but it needs to be found.
Composite data can’t generate lidar trees - a big time saver for some.
Composite ground images also can be generated where it completely averages out greens and bunkers and any playable surface. We’ve found that to the best of anyone’s ability to judge, high quality lidar is very similar to real life.
Since composite data isn’t a standard format, there will be more bugs and bad data. Combined with the above reasons, I’m hesitant to add it for now.
I’d recommend contacting the agency and asking if they have the las or laz. I understand it’s tough to not be able to use what’s right there and available, but I think pointclouds are worth the wait.
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Post by lessangster on Apr 4, 2019 13:01:36 GMT -5
The idea currently is that composite data at some point was generated by pointclouds. So the data exists, but it needs to be found. Composite data can’t generate lidar trees - a big time saver for some. Composite ground images also can be generated where it completely averages out greens and bunkers and any playable surface. We’ve found that to the best of anyone’s ability to judge, high quality lidar is very similar to real life. Since composite data isn’t a standard format, there will be more bugs and bad data. Combined with the above reasons, I’m hesitant to add it for now. I’d recommend contacting the agency and asking if they have the las or laz. I understand it’s tough to not be able to use what’s right there and available, but I think pointclouds are worth the wait. Thanks for that info chadgolf I’m not sure who I would get the info off in the UK, at the minute it doesn’t matter as I don’t have a PC yet. |
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Post by lessangster on Apr 4, 2019 13:11:57 GMT -5
There is an area near me that used to have a course on it but it closed down, the point cloud Lidar data is still there and google maps still shows it as a course but it’s been built on now. That might be the first course I try with your new tool. The only problem I see is that the course only has 15 holes and they used to play the last three again but from a different teeing area, there is land next to it where there was talk of creating three holes to make it a full 18 but the course closed before they got round to it. I don’t think it would take much to enclose that are in the selection and sculpt three new holes in there.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2019 20:10:20 GMT -5
Does anyone know if someone over at HB has 'claimed' The Golf Course at Glen Mills? The OSM for it was completed, and I did a '3D self-guided tour' on Google Maps and was pretty impressed with the layout.
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Post by kvand on Apr 23, 2019 18:15:46 GMT -5
Anyone interested in finishing a course from the North Chicago area? I started one and quickly realized my computer was not capable of running the game. So I went back to PS4 for now. I still have the Lidar files and have just over half the course mapped on OSM. The Course is Wynstone GC..it's a Nicholaus course. I would love to see this one, as the course pictures from the clubs website are awesome. Please let me know if there is any interest and send your email and I can send the files...or If they can be posted here, I can do that as well.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2019 19:47:13 GMT -5
I'd be willing to look at it at some point for sure! I still have a bit more to learn about water features and stuff, my first course didn't have them but my second one does. Looking at the OSM a couple things come to mind. First is that the general point density you're using seems to be pretty good. Too few and the shapes suck, too many and it can be more time consuming to modify shapes in-game if necessary, so a nice moderately thorough middleground is what I aimed for with my second course. First time around I went overboard with it. Second is that bunker islands (and fairway rough islands) don't come through in-game. I have not experimented with them yet but I think the way to go could be to draw fairway around it but leave one part where it's slightly open. I edited the rough/bunker island on Hole 8, hopefully someone who knows more about this can look at it and confirm if that would achieve the desired effect or not just to help us less experienced designers going forward. Another thing I haven't quite figured out yet is that on my first course the fairways ended up being wider than the splines suggested, so I tried to compensate for that slightly on my second go. Looks good in game but I'm stuck waiting for setting up the water features for now in case I have to remake the heightmap. Also Doyley , I'm getting ahead of myself for sure but I might want to consider finishing up Alotian at some point. We'll have to see if I'm still interested or not a few months down the road but that course definitely deserves to be in the game. |
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