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Post by joegolferg on Jun 23, 2019 8:01:45 GMT -5
The 5th hole at Yale is a masterful 'short'. How tasty would a back left pin be?
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Post by joegolferg on Jul 5, 2019 16:11:18 GMT -5
So, this is in fact real and possibly the worst thing I've ever seen on a golf course...
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Post by PithyDoctorG on Jul 5, 2019 16:56:04 GMT -5
So, this is in fact real and possibly the worst thing I've ever seen on a golf course... Hey, man. If it's cart path only I don't want to have to walk all the way across the fairway to get to my ball. I get to walk way less this way  . |
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Post by mcbogga on Jul 6, 2019 0:02:42 GMT -5
Risk reward mechanic executed perfectly.
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Post by joegolferg on Jul 6, 2019 10:21:02 GMT -5
So, this is in fact real and possibly the worst thing I've ever seen on a golf course... Hey, man. If it's cart path only I don't want to have to walk all the way across the fairway to get to my ball. I get to walk way less this way . please type in "Hickory Hills golf Illinois" and check out the Google map for it... It's hilarious 😂 |
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Post by b101 on Jul 7, 2019 11:50:07 GMT -5
Hey, man. If it's cart path only I don't want to have to walk all the way across the fairway to get to my ball. I get to walk way less this way . please type in "Hickory Hills golf Illinois" and check out the Google map for it... It's hilarious 😂 Short definitely better than long with your approaches there! What a strange decision. Edit: joegolferg - is there anywhere particularly good to get summaries of all the template holes in the poll? I've played a few of the template courses and have done some reading around, but the best of them (Fried Egg) only has about 8 on there. I'm tempted to use quite a few in my next design, if I can find a bit more info on say: Leven, Maiden etc. |
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Post by joegolferg on Jul 8, 2019 11:56:07 GMT -5
To be honest there aren't many places to find in depth analysis on some of the templates other than Bahto's book on CB Macdonald "The Evangelist of Golf" which costs around £800-1000... The Maiden template comes from the 6th hole at Royal St George's, a par three. The hole originally played as a blind tee shot to a green that is shaped like a sideways Biarritz. The use of the template in general is quite rare, considering all the known Raynor courses out there (many are still unknown) There's a pretty solid rendition of it at the Dedham Polo & Country Club, a Raynor/Ross design. The Leven is a very common template that is almost used on a Macdonald, Raynor and Banks course. There's an extensive article on this template right here... geekedongolf.com/tag/leven/ |
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Post by b101 on Jul 8, 2019 12:38:03 GMT -5
Thanks for the link (and yes, I won't be buying a book...) As it would happen, Fried Egg posted a YouTube video on the Leven just last month:
I've actually played Royal St George's and have a couple of days playing there later this month, so will grab some photos for you! It's still a semi blind tee shot, with the green sort of a biarritz at an angle.
You'll be pleased to know my next course will be taking huge inspiration from templates (although not the geometric style). Figure it's a little out of my comfort zone and should teach me lots about angles and green contouring.
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Post by joegolferg on Jul 8, 2019 12:45:45 GMT -5
Thanks for the link (and yes, I won't be buying a book...) As it would happen, Fried Egg posted a YouTube video on the Leven just last month: I've actually played Royal St George's and have a couple of days playing there later this month, so will grab some photos for you! It's still a semi blind tee shot, with the green sort of a biarritz at an angle. You'll be pleased to know my next course will be taking huge inspiration from templates (although not the geometric style). Figure it's a little out of my comfort zone and should teach me lots about angles and green contouring. Yeah, I believe they've turned it more into a Biarritz with the angle of the newer tee. Good on you getting to play there, I'm jealous... Here's a flyover of Dedham I forgot to post. It has the maiden template. |
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Post by b101 on Jul 8, 2019 14:33:48 GMT -5
Thanks for the link (and yes, I won't be buying a book...) As it would happen, Fried Egg posted a YouTube video on the Leven just last month: I've actually played Royal St George's and have a couple of days playing there later this month, so will grab some photos for you! It's still a semi blind tee shot, with the green sort of a biarritz at an angle. You'll be pleased to know my next course will be taking huge inspiration from templates (although not the geometric style). Figure it's a little out of my comfort zone and should teach me lots about angles and green contouring. Yeah, I believe they've turned it more into a Biarritz with the angle of the newer tee. Good on you getting to play there, I'm jealous... Here's a flyover of Dedham I forgot to post. It has the maiden template. Really good video, thanks - I liked the look of the plateau hole in particular and I can see how I could use the maiden in a couple of different ways. Sadly with St George's, it'll be a couple of rounds of foursomes, but I may get courtesy of the course on the second afternoon, so fingers crossed! Should be a lovely couple of days. May pick your brain with a couple of sketches of holes later on... |
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Post by jacobkessler on Jul 9, 2019 0:06:08 GMT -5
Here's a (rather low resolution) look at New Albany Country Club's East Course's 6th hole.  I’m playing here Thursday if the weather holds up, though I’ve played here before and I can say it’s one of my favorite Cape holes. From the Nicklaus (back) tees, it’s listed at 365 yards, though I’m not sure that’s accurate because a straight line tee to green is only 320 yards. Keeping in mind it’s quite a bit downhill, this could be a very fun drivable hole for Tour pros. This course hosted the LPGA's New Albany Golf Classic for three years (1999-2001), the first year won by Annika Sorrenstam. Anyway, I’m getting a bit sidetracked. I like how it puts a modern touch on a classic template hole. This specifically reminds me of the 5th at Mid Ocean Club. The front right bunker here is a bigger hazard than it may appear... even with lots of green to work with, you’re leaving yourself work for par if your tee shot ends up there. Just thought I’d share as I get ready to play one of my favorite Central Ohio courses! |
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Post by joegolferg on Jul 9, 2019 10:21:47 GMT -5
Yeah, I believe they've turned it more into a Biarritz with the angle of the newer tee. Good on you getting to play there, I'm jealous... Here's a flyover of Dedham I forgot to post. It has the maiden template. Really good video, thanks - I liked the look of the plateau hole in particular and I can see how I could use the maiden in a couple of different ways. Sadly with St George's, it'll be a couple of rounds of foursomes, but I may get courtesy of the course on the second afternoon, so fingers crossed! Should be a lovely couple of days. May pick your brain with a couple of sketches of holes later on... I love looking at people's sketches on the sketch thread, feel free to share some idea's with me. I'm closely examining how people sketch their holes in hope of being able to sketch my own in more detail. |
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Post by joegolferg on Jul 9, 2019 10:24:07 GMT -5
Here's a (rather low resolution) look at New Albany Country Club's East Course's 6th hole. I’m playing here Thursday if the weather holds up, though I’ve played here before and I can say it’s one of my favorite Cape holes. From the Nicklaus (back) tees, it’s listed at 365 yards, though I’m not sure that’s accurate because a straight line tee to green is only 320 yards. Keeping in mind it’s quite a bit downhill, this could be a very fun drivable hole for Tour pros. This course hosted the LPGA's New Albany Golf Classic for three years (1999-2001), the first year won by Annika Sorrenstam. Anyway, I’m getting a bit sidetracked. I like how it puts a modern touch on a classic template hole. This specifically reminds me of the 5th at Mid Ocean Club. The front right bunker here is a bigger hazard than it may appear... even with lots of green to work with, you’re leaving yourself work for par if your tee shot ends up there. Just thought I’d share as I get ready to play one of my favorite Central Ohio courses! I know how much you love cape holes and the one you've posted up looks like a really enjoyable one. I always prefer them to be shorter holes when they play across water because it tempts players to cut off more of the hazard in an attempt to have a short pitch in. Great to play in real and in game. My cape hole at Raynor Ridge is very, very similar to this one. |
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Post by joegolferg on Jul 9, 2019 11:15:27 GMT -5
Whilst on the subject of Cape holes, I thought I'd throw up a picture of one of my absolute favorites - the 2nd hole at Yale. You don't always need water on a Cape to make it punishing. The greenside bunkers here are rumored to be between 25-30ft deep!
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Post by deaconstar003 on Jul 17, 2019 20:35:07 GMT -5
My home course, Blowing Rock CC, was thought to be a Donakd Ross until we discovered its actulaay a Raynor design. The back tees are only 6200 yds but for a golfer like me who doesn’t crush th ball, it’s a joy ro play. It’s a Raynor masterpiece in my opinion.
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