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Post by jwheels9876 on Mar 30, 2019 14:06:56 GMT -5
Anyone up to doing TPC river Highlands in Connecticut? Looks like the course has already been mapped out which would save hours of work  |
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Post by Han on Mar 31, 2019 15:45:35 GMT -5
I already have Lidar plots done and ready for both Royal Dornoch - Scotland and PGA Catalunya (Stadium Course) - Spain, but apart from just marking the holes as "Golf Hole" I haven't started to map either of them out in OSM yet as I'm currently busy working on Valderrama. So if I understand correctly and some people are just helping out with the design process by doing some OSM mapping for others, then please feel free to have a look at either of these two.  |
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Post by theclv24 on Apr 1, 2019 13:51:26 GMT -5
That's one I've thought of, too, if the data is available.
Looks like someone already completed OSM for Glen Mills, Crystal Downs (poorly), and started it for Whiskey Creek while Canyata isn't even labeled as a 'golf course' yet. Ballyhack, Back Brook, Galloway, Kinloch, Jasna Polana, Rockaway had not been started.
Baltimore Country Club has no LiDAR?!
I did Crystal Downs. What would you say is poorly done about it? I've been studying and working on this course for years, and I think it imported quite well:  |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2019 13:54:24 GMT -5
Looks like someone already completed OSM for Glen Mills, Crystal Downs (poorly), and started it for Whiskey Creek while Canyata isn't even labeled as a 'golf course' yet. Ballyhack, Back Brook, Galloway, Kinloch, Jasna Polana, Rockaway had not been started.
Baltimore Country Club has no LiDAR?!
I did Crystal Downs. What would you say is poorly done about it? I've been studying and working on this course for years, and I think it imported quite well:
Nvm that looks excellent indeed!
I was seeing some 'extra' green stuff. That's what led me to believe that it was amiss but you were probably using that to mark something else. Sorry about that.
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Post by theclv24 on Apr 1, 2019 14:01:31 GMT -5
No worries, just wanted to make sure it didn't get messed up or something happened to it. I don't normally do it, but because CDCC has such pronounced mow lines, I did Rough areas too. If you look at it in the regular OpenStreetMaps view, it just looks like one big fairway.
I don't recall things being off in the import, but I will have to check again and see if working in the more updated DigitalGlobe map made things line up incorrectly, because I see the Bing map is a little off.
I'm trying to figure out if someone is seriously undertaking Kingsley Club or not. I see someone was making edits about 2 weeks ago, but it's unfinished. It looks like there is 2017 lidar for that area, so that course should come across nicely. I played it about 2 years ago, so I should be able to help with that one significantly.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2019 16:17:02 GMT -5
No worries, just wanted to make sure it didn't get messed up or something happened to it. I don't normally do it, but because CDCC has such pronounced mow lines, I did Rough areas too. If you look at it in the regular OpenStreetMaps view, it just looks like one big fairway. I don't recall things being off in the import, but I will have to check again and see if working in the more updated DigitalGlobe map made things line up incorrectly, because I see the Bing map is a little off. I'm trying to figure out if someone is seriously undertaking Kingsley Club or not. I see someone was making edits about 2 weeks ago, but it's unfinished. It looks like there is 2017 lidar for that area, so that course should come across nicely. I played it about 2 years ago, so I should be able to help with that one significantly. I think that's exactly what I saw, makes sense now.
Kingley would be worth doing for sure, not to familiar with it but just looked at it and seems awesome.
What was that Tom Doak course up there that closed in the late 2000s or so?
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Post by theclv24 on Apr 1, 2019 16:28:45 GMT -5
High Pointe, just outside of Traverse City near the Grand Traverse Resort. I literally just thought about that course like last night or this morning.
I just looked and it closed in 2009. There is 2009 lidar, but it's not on The National Map. It says you have to call or e-mail for it. Don't know if I'm ready to go to those lengths just yet. There is one map view left on OSM where you can still see the holes though...
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2019 19:34:03 GMT -5
If there's a way to create that one it would be AWESOME. But definitely a royal pain in the youknowwhat. The cool thing about it would be that (at least from reading his book, Anatomy of a Golf Course) we could set the course up to play how it was actually supposed to.
And as awesome as it probably was, there are still hundreds if not thousands of other courses worth recreating that make for much easier projects as well.
What about Beechtree? Any luck with that one? A Tom Doak course in MD (right near Bulle Rock which shut in the mid 2000s), apparently the superintendent did a really good job keeping the playing conditions as intended by Doak.
I played Bulle Rock once and made the mistake of playing from the 6800yd tees. The course was kept so soft that it knocked a lot off drive distances, so it was a little bit too long for me. And that was in addition to the toughest rough I had ever played by a mile. Having grown up playing a local country club that was notorious in the area for its nasty rough I'm used to having to hold the clubface open on chip shots and such, but the rough at Bulle Rock was so much tougher that when I tried what worked with what I was used to, I'd literally pull the ball 30 degrees. Maybe they're just aiming for US Open conditions or it might just be the particular species of grass that they used, which appeared pretty wispy but was nearly impossible to swing through, almost like an Ice Plant Jr. or something. As much as some of the hole designs were really nice, I did not enjoy playing a course that gave you literally nowhere to miss...other than maybe short of the green on some holes. It was nice to look at and made for a decent walk, but many other public courses in the area offer a similar if not better experience in this regard, including but not limited to Greystone, Musket Ridge, and Whiskey Creek. I can only imagine how much more fun to play Beechtree must have been, although Bulle Rock would be a sweet video game course.
I also just found that Tallgrass on Long Island shut in 2016 or so, was a really nice looking Gil Hanse design. Chances are that one has LiDAR and images available for it.
Btw, could you have a look at Engineers and see if there are some other features you think I should mark off? I'm just about done with the 18 (I really mean 19) holes themselves and after that the cart paths. Also, any idea what you think should be done for the routing since there are 19 holes, whether I or someone else finishes it up? Is it possible to make it play as a 19 hole course? It's not like some of those courses near Melbourne which have a 19th hole as a filler if need be, this one literally has 19 routed in succession and from reading articles it looks like they took the 14th hole (a short par 3, sometimes referenced as hole 14a or the '2 or 20 hole') out of play at one point but added it back in after a renovation. If not, then hole 11 probably gets the boot.
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Post by Kermit_418 on Apr 3, 2019 7:34:09 GMT -5
A lot of the ones on my list are international courses, not sure if there is any correlation to LIDAR being more/less likely or reliable. Cypress Point (CA) Riviera (CA) Valley Club (CA) Pine Valley (NJ) All 3 Streamsongs (FL) Liberty National (NJ) Bayonne Golf Club (NJ) Fisher's Island (NY) NGLA (NY) Bull's Bay (SC) Tobacco Road (NC) Royal Portrush (UK) Lahinch (UK) Cruden Bay (UK) Castle Stuart (UK) Cabot Cliffs (NS) Tara Iti (NZ) Metropolitan (AU) Olympic Course (BR) I see there is a good bit done for Tobacco Road. Is this your work? Did you plan on importing and publishing it? |
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Post by gamesdecent on Apr 3, 2019 7:39:47 GMT -5
I see there is a good bit done for Tobacco Road. Is this your work? Did you plan on importing and publishing it? No, I think that might be mrooola's work. Not sure if he's planning on bringing it in with LIDAR or if he was just tracing for fun/someone else to use. |
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Post by mrooola on Apr 3, 2019 7:50:52 GMT -5
Yeah. That would be me. I haven't found the time in my somewhat busy schedule to get it rolling in any decent tempo, but I have every intention of finishing that project
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Post by Kermit_418 on Apr 3, 2019 7:53:54 GMT -5
Awesome! Looking forward to it!
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Post by gheebuttersnaps on Apr 3, 2019 15:19:15 GMT -5
Here is a list of courses that I am interested in. The order may change, but these are courses that I will probably someday add OSM data for, and hope that there is Lidar data for. This is both as an FYI in case anyone wants to see these courses in the game or use the OSM data, and also as a request, as in if you can beat me to these I would be extremely grateful for anyone who adds OSM data to these courses: Bandon - All (OR) - Bandon Dunes (Completed by a member of the sim forum)- Bandon Trails (Completed by a member of the sim forum)- Old MacDonald (Lidar data pre-dates course construction) - Pacific Dunes (Completed by a member of the sim forum)Philly Cricket Club (Done - Course file with lidar available upon request, otherwise I will complete)The Dunes Club (Done - Course file with lidar available upon request)Cal Club of San Francisco (Done - Course file with lidar available upon request)Old Town Club (NC) Sand Hills (Done)Eastward Ho (MA) Myopia Hunt Club (MA) Prairie Dunes (KS) Whippoorwill (NY) Pasatiempo (Done)Moraine CC (Done)Old Sandwich (MA) Somerset Hills (NJ) Essex County Club (MA) Calusa Pines (FL) Friar's Head (In Progress)Sand Valley (WI) Desert Forest (AZ) Gulph Mills (PA) Pinehurst #4 (NC - No updated imagery yet, so may not be possible) Wolf Point Ranch (TX) Carne (Ireland) Seminole (FL) Shoreacres (Done - Course file with lidar available upon request, otherwise I will complete)
Boston Golf Club (In Progress, using to update my previous "Revolution GC" course)FYI, I mapped out Eastward Ho! and pulled the Lidar. I'm not going to be moving forward with this one, so if you ever want the files let me know. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2019 18:53:28 GMT -5
I already have Lidar plots done and ready for both Royal Dornoch - Scotland and PGA Catalunya (Stadium Course) - Spain, but apart from just marking the holes as "Golf Hole" I haven't started to map either of them out in OSM yet as I'm currently busy working on Valderrama. So if I understand correctly and some people are just helping out with the design process by doing some OSM mapping for others, then please feel free to have a look at either of these two.
I'd be willing to help out with Royal Dornoch. What year is the LiDAR from? I'm trying to figure out if it has the 5300yd front tees or not.
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Post by Han on Apr 3, 2019 20:26:07 GMT -5
I already have Lidar plots done and ready for both Royal Dornoch - Scotland and PGA Catalunya (Stadium Course) - Spain, but apart from just marking the holes as "Golf Hole" I haven't started to map either of them out in OSM yet as I'm currently busy working on Valderrama. So if I understand correctly and some people are just helping out with the design process by doing some OSM mapping for others, then please feel free to have a look at either of these two.
I'd be willing to help out with Royal Dornoch. What year is the LiDAR from? I'm trying to figure out if it has the 5300yd front tees or not.
Can't remember what year it was from to be honest. I can send you the course file to help with alignment etc If you are on PC. PM me about it if that's of any interest / use to you. |
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