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Post by Doyley on Dec 1, 2018 8:41:24 GMT -5
Beginners Club Tour starts tomorrow...…….I hope! It is not mentioned in the upcoming events schedule, and no-one seems to be talking about it. I know the course is the same as CC-Am tour. It seems as if everyone has conveniently forgotten about it. I understand that there are at least 73 members lined up, but there is no thread on the forum. Hopefully it will burst into life in the next couple of days. It'll be there - just a combo of Tim and I taking vacations back to back - ground work is good just a few things need to be completed to push it out |
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Post by Zuzert on Dec 1, 2018 11:09:10 GMT -5
It is my sincere hope that the distinct tone of elitism that has been created by HB’s design of the three club sets can be overcome by TGCTours management and even more importantly its members. This “Us vs Them” and the not so subtle belittling of “easier” club users is an extreme turn off. Get over yourself and stop taking it so seriously. It's a gosh darn game on the internet my friend. If you don't like the "tone" of the master/pro club users then don't play. If you enjoy the competition and don't enjoy the banter then don't read the forums. It's pretty simple, but ultimately comes down to not being a whiner in my opinion. Better yet, take on a set of the master or pro clubs and make those people eat their words. |
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Post by zzfr33b1rdzz on Dec 1, 2018 19:34:48 GMT -5
This thread has derailed.
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Post by Generic_Casual on Dec 1, 2018 20:56:21 GMT -5
I keep wondering why I click on it.  #trainwreck |
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Post by boffo on Dec 1, 2018 22:16:43 GMT -5
If there's one thing this community really loves to hate it's a good ol' which club debate. Just in case some points/arguments have been under used it's a great idea to derail as many threads as possible in this direction.
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Post by brianfuller75 on Dec 4, 2018 6:33:29 GMT -5
Having looked at the leaderboard for the Beginners Club Group and for CC-Z, I am wondering whether I made the wrong choice when opting for the Beginners.
The leading score after 1 round on Beginners is 59, on CC-Z it is 63. At the bottom there are more scores in the 90s in CC-Z.
It is still very early days I know, but it is an interesting phenomenon. Maybe after 4 tournaments, I will be considering doing Q School again with Pro clubs.
All I want is to play against people of similar ability to myself.
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Post by zzfr33b1rdzz on Dec 4, 2018 11:18:38 GMT -5
Having looked at the leaderboard for the Beginners Club Group and for CC-Z, I am wondering whether I made the wrong choice when opting for the Beginners. The leading score after 1 round on Beginners is 59, on CC-Z it is 63. At the bottom there are more scores in the 90s in CC-Z. It is still very early days I know, but it is an interesting phenomenon. Maybe after 4 tournaments, I will be considering doing Q School again with Pro clubs. All I want is to play against people of similar ability to myself. Problem is no matter what tour you play on, there is always going to be someone shooting well, hopefully one day that is you! |
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Post by coggin66 on Dec 4, 2018 15:21:26 GMT -5
Having looked at the leaderboard for the Beginners Club Group and for CC-Z, I am wondering whether I made the wrong choice when opting for the Beginners. The leading score after 1 round on Beginners is 59, on CC-Z it is 63. At the bottom there are more scores in the 90s in CC-Z. It is still very early days I know, but it is an interesting phenomenon. Maybe after 4 tournaments, I will be considering doing Q School again with Pro clubs. All I want is to play against people of similar ability to myself. You would be better off in the main CC tour if you are looking for similar level players. The Beginner Club Tour is not a Beginners tour. It is basically a tour for those who, for whatever reason, can't handle the tempo mechanic in the game. I see a lot of ex-TGC1 players that were ranked fairly highly on that board. |
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Post by lessangster on Dec 4, 2018 15:23:45 GMT -5
Having looked at the leaderboard for the Beginners Club Group and for CC-Z, I am wondering whether I made the wrong choice when opting for the Beginners. The leading score after 1 round on Beginners is 59, on CC-Z it is 63. At the bottom there are more scores in the 90s in CC-Z. It is still very early days I know, but it is an interesting phenomenon. Maybe after 4 tournaments, I will be considering doing Q School again with Pro clubs. All I want is to play against people of similar ability to myself. You would be better off in the main CC tour if you are looking for similar level players. The Beginner Club Tour is not a Beginners tour. It is basically a tour for those who, for whatever reason, can't handle the tempo mechanic in the game. I see a lot of ex-TGC1 players that were ranked fairly highly on that board. Yeah so do I |
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Post by kopraj on Dec 5, 2018 0:00:46 GMT -5
Maybe I missed it, but any chance we can get our own little cool BCT forum so we can chatter about how straight and short we hit it?
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Post by Doyley on Dec 5, 2018 1:20:42 GMT -5
Maybe I missed it, but any chance we can get our own little cool BCT forum so we can chatter about how straight and short we hit it? Absolutely! Give me a few min |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2018 7:20:36 GMT -5
brianfuller75 the beginner tour is anything but. CCZ is the beginner tour really. The beginner tour is just a short hitters tour. So whilst you will have your amateur hackers that can’t hit the ball far you will also have your Jim Furyk PGA-Tour level players on that tour too that should piss the field against the short hitting amateurs - hence the 36 stroke 1-round difference between top and bottom.
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Post by brianfuller75 on Dec 5, 2018 11:00:37 GMT -5
Oswinner: Yes I can see that. Trouble is for me is that the difference in control between Beginner clubs and Pro clubs seems enormous. I use a mouse and I'm hoping that the next patch helps me a bit. I would like to play Pro with some degree of control (not duck hooking whenever I hit very fast). I'm not worried about the extra distance but just would like to play in CC-Z.
I can see the numbers in Beginners (currently 65} diminishing, as people try to move up to Pro, and not many moving the other way.
It still seems to me that the whole idea of Beginner Club users being separated is flawed. Every other level is determined by ability. Beginners is separated by the clubs people used!
it is almost a form of "apartheid".
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Post by Art Vandelay on Dec 5, 2018 12:53:51 GMT -5
Just took my first look and BT LB. I'm sorry, but if you can score -10 or lower (current top 14) why are you there? I'm sure you could score a realistic score with pro clubs.
As for the folks scoring level par or below (current bottom 11), IMO these are the folks who truly struggle with the swing and could legitimately be in the CC-AM circuit.
But what about the middle 40? Where do you draw the line? What score is the true threshold.
Not trying to offend anyone here, I like the game for me right now because my scores are closer to real scores you would see in professional golf. -6? Sure. -1? Absolutely.
-14? Not on this earth.
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Post by CiB0RG on Dec 5, 2018 13:00:24 GMT -5
Just took my first look and BT LB. I'm sorry, but if you can score -10 or lower (current top 14) why are you there? I'm sure you could score a realistic score with pro clubs. As for the folks scoring level par or below (current bottom 11), IMO these are the folks who truly struggle with the swing and could legitimately be in the CC-AM circuit. But what about the middle 40? Where do you draw the line? What score is the true threshold. Not trying to offend anyone here, I like the game for me right now because my scores are closer to real scores you would see in professional golf. -6? Sure. -1? Absolutely. -14? Not on this earth. Unfortunately not everyone is looking for realism in this game... If you ask anyone shooting the lights out on the BT, they will tell you that they simply "enjoy hitting good golf shots". They don't want to deal with the possibility of NOT throwing a dart at every pin. Not everyone is here to be competitive, some are just here to hit good golf shots and see their names on a leaderboard. |
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