Major Announcement tonight on "What's Going on?"

[Tim]

We are changing our clubset policy effective Week 4. Beginner clubs will no longer be a valid option on the Challenge Circuit. We'll be creating a Beginner Clubs Tour specifically for that clubset.

Summary
1. All Challenge Circuit flights restricted to Master or Pro clubs only starting Week 4
2. Pro club users on CC-A will now receive promotion marks, but if promoted will have to use Master on Web.com
3. New Tour (Beginner Clubs Tour) created and restricted to Beginner clubs only - mirrors CC-Am schedule/played out of CC-Am society.
4. Anyone playing Beginner clubs during week 4 will be DQ'ed with no marks (like fair play dqs). Any player can choose to join the Beginner Clubs Tour at anytime by choosing this option in their TGCT profile.
5. In Promotion Event #1 - anyone using Beginner Clubs will be removed/ignored
6. You can't play both the Beginner Clubs Tour and our Pro Tours/Challenge Circuit at the same time - you'll need to pick one or the other. You can play BCT and TST at the same time.

Timeline
Week 3
1. Notice/email/Announcements made

Week 4
1. Anyone playing Beginner clubs during week 4 will be DQ'ed with no marks (like fair play dqs). Any player can choose to join the Beginner Clubs Tour at anytime by choosing this option in their TGCT profile.
2. Promotion Event #1 - anyone using Beginner Clubs will be removed/ignored

Week 5
1. Beginner Clubs Tour starts - 1 tour, no movement marks, no cut
2. CC-A:Z (master/pro clubs only) or DQ
3. Fast Track CC-Am promotions based on a standard deviation formula compared to avg-score of the field during promotion finalization.
4. Q-school registration will include an option to go straight to Beginner tour or register for Q-School with Master/Pro clubsets only.
5. Anyone playing the weekly Q-School on beginner clubs will be given a Beginner tour card and be sent an email.
6. Players promoted to the Web.com tour will not be demoted until they have fully completed a minimum of 3 events

Beginner Clubs Tour (BCT)
- Play events via TGCTours (CC-Am) society
- Beginner clubs only - Pro/Master club users will be removed from leaderboard
- no WGR tracking
- if you come to the BCT from regular tours (already have TGCT tour card) there will be a 4-week waiting period before you are eligible to register for another shot at Q-School
- if you start TGCT on the BCT you can register for Q-School at any time - no wait period



All:
I'll be interrupting the show to break a very important announcement concerning TGCT. You don't want to miss it.
Tune in at 9pm EST



The interview with Jeff (SmilingGoats) will be postponed till next week.

Thanks!
Tim

[SweetTeeBag]

All PS4 players banned from the tours? I knew it! 

[Doyley]

Nov 13, 2018 19:19:24 GMT -5 SweetTeeBag said:

All PS4 players banned from the tours? I knew it! 

like new fedex cup rules...they start every tournament at +15

[superaces]

So is this still happening?

[Brighttail]

Well not at 9pm...

[Art Vandelay]

Nov 13, 2018 21:08:18 GMT -5 Brighttail said:

Well not at 9pm...

Now 930ish

[hammo24983]

Nov 13, 2018 19:19:24 GMT -5 SweetTeeBag said:

All PS4 players banned from the tours? I knew it! 

So there would be about 20 people left playing?
😜

[Doyley]

Summary
1. ALL CC-Tours restricted to Master/Pro clubs only
2. Pro club users on CC-A will now receive promotion marks, but if promoted will have to use Master on Web (top 20 pro/master clubs)
3. New Tour (Beginner) created and restricted to Beginner clubs only - mirrors CC-Am schedule.
4. Anyone playing Beginner clubs on week 4 will be DQ'ed with no marks (like fair play dqs). Any player can choose to the beginner tour at anytime by choosing this option in their profile.
5. In Promotion Event #1 - anyone using Beginner Clubs will be removed/ignored

Timeline
Week 3
1. Notice/email/Announcements made

Week 4
1. Anyone playing Beginner clubs on week 4 will be DQ'ed with no marks (like fair play dqs). Any player can choose to go to the beginner tour at anytime by choosing this option in their profile.
2. Promotion Event #1 - anyone using Beginner Clubs will be removed/ignored

Week 5
1. Beginner Tour (with no marks) starts
2. CC-A:Z (master/pro clubs only) or DQ
3. Fast Track CC-Am promotions based on a standard deviation formula compared to avg-score of the field during promotion finalization.
4. Q-school registration will include an option to go straight to Beginner tour or register for Q-School with Master/Pro clubsets only.
5. Anyone playing the weekly Q-School on beginners clubs will be given a Beginner tour card and be sent an email.
6. Players promoted to the Web.com tour will not be demoted until they have fully completed a minimum of 3 events

[Brighttail]

RIP to beginner clubs on CC events. They will have their own special tour if any player wishes to play them. I wish all my friends who play only beginner's clubs, good luck on that tour. Some will opt to try Pro clubs, others will quit. To those I say I understand all sides of this argument, have some mixed feelings on it myself but too many are taking advantage of the beginner's club lack of difficulty (which is virtually none as they are supposed to get one into the game). Still the writing was on the wall when the Pro tours were made so only Master clubs can play, so this was the next logical step of the Tours.

[gotku]

Great changes, expect you pushing CC-A players to play Pro clubs because it will be very hard for master users to get promoted. Top 20 masters users(if they are in top 70 overall like now) should still get marks.Or if the system need to give only 20 movement marks max, give them to top 10 pro and top 10 master.

[ABU_Bear]

Beginners get their own tour

The Huggies Tour

[Brighttail]

Serious post. CC-A event last week, if you took out the beginner clubs, you would have had 7 players taken out and only ONE master clubs person cracking the top 20.

I have a feeling that Master club users on CC-A are going to find it very hard to crack the top 20 even if we take beginner clubs out, so perhaps an adjustment that would look something like this:

top Master player get two promotion marks and the next 5 (if outside the top 20) get one each. This way there is still some love being given to people playing with Master clubs. Otherwise I see one maybe two master clubs folks getting promotion marks each week while the pro clubs dominate. When those pro clubs eventually move up, it can be 10-12 weeks before these master clubs folks who have been finishing in the top 30-40 before they get a chance finally to get into the top 20, where as the original way you had it, they could have done it within 5 promotion marks.

You are basically making it MORE difficult for those playing with Master Clubs on the CC-A tour from where it was before and it might be easier for them to drop to Pro clubs to get in the top 20 instead, which seems completely counter intuitive. So I would like to see the top 20 get promotion marks and any master clubs users within the top 40, the top will get 20 and the next 4-5 will get one for finishing as the best of the master club users.

[Deleted]

I didn't catch the end of the stream and don't think it is addressed above in the OP...

Can users opt in and out of the beginner tour? Basically, can a Pro/Master player on the normal tiered tours decide to take a week off, play the beginner tour once, and then the following week jump back to their own tiered tour?

If so, can all members do this or just CC Tour card holders?

[Brighttail]

You should also consider Brighttail to be on your staff cause this is pretty much exactly what I predicted at the start of the q-school.

[Brighttail]

Nov 13, 2018 22:36:35 GMT -5 @swaeromotion said:

I didn't catch the end of the stream and don't think it is addressed above in the OP...

Can users opt in and out of the beginner tour? Basically, can a Pro/Master player on the normal tiered tours decide to take a week off, play the beginner tour once, and then the following week jump back to their own tiered tour?

If so, can all members do this or just CC Tour card holders?

Answer is no. If  a player decides to go to the beginner's tour, they will have to remain there for a (specified time which will be announced at a later date) and at that point if they want to go back to using pro/master clubs they will have to retake Q-School and get re-placed.  I think any player can do this but they lose their spot on the tour and that spot may not be available when they want to come back even if they qualify.