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Post by theclv24 on May 21, 2018 9:01:43 GMT -5
Is there any window in which we need to/should publish? I've set the design window at 8-10 weeks, so your course can be published no earlier than July 9th, no later than July 23rd. I feel like those are pretty safe numbers, but if both contestants were adamant and in agreement, I could be flexible and amend the dates in either direction. |
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Post by joegolferg on May 21, 2018 12:15:51 GMT -5
I haven't forgotten about the Raynor match up pal. I'll definitely let you know by the end of the week.
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Post by theclv24 on Jun 1, 2018 16:16:23 GMT -5
Ok, one last time, I promise... I am going to change the format up. Securing the timing and course matchups for a head-to-head competition was proving to be too difficult.
Therefore, I am opening this Series up to anyone who wants to compete, starting at any time. I will be reaching out to everyone who has already messaged me privately, and I will also be updating the original post with more details either tomorrow morning or Monday.
So if we haven't talked already and you are interested in competing, please let me know!
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Post by mattf27 on Jun 2, 2018 15:06:15 GMT -5
I've been making decent progress on Ballyneal, here's a few more shots of the course so far. No planting has been done yet, and I haven't done any mound sculpting off the holes yet, so there's a fair amount to do still. Tee shot on #9  Tee shot on #11, looking back at the clubhouse  |
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Post by joegolferg on Jun 2, 2018 15:30:24 GMT -5
I've been making decent progress on Ballyneal, here's a few more shots of the course so far. No planting has been done yet, and I haven't done any mound sculpting off the holes yet, so there's a fair amount to do still. Tee shot on #9 Tee shot on #11, looking back at the clubhouse I thought this was your survivor series course? |
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Post by mattf27 on Jun 2, 2018 15:32:36 GMT -5
I've been making decent progress on Ballyneal, here's a few more shots of the course so far. No planting has been done yet, and I haven't done any mound sculpting off the holes yet, so there's a fair amount to do still. Tee shot on #9 Tee shot on #11, looking back at the clubhouse I thought this was your survivor series course? Nope, Hickory Creek is my survivor course. I've got a WIP thread for that one as well. |
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Post by jivesinator on Jun 2, 2018 21:39:48 GMT -5
I thought this was your survivor series course? Nope, Hickory Creek is my survivor course. I've got a WIP thread for that one as well. Joe you may have been thinking of mine which I know you saw some pictures of and is built very similarly to Matt's. Anyway those pics are great, looking forward to release. Regarding the competition, if the matchup with Bluejack is being considered I'd love to do Bluejack seeing as I've played it a couple of times. |
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Post by joegolferg on Jun 3, 2018 1:58:34 GMT -5
Nope, Hickory Creek is my survivor course. I've got a WIP thread for that one as well. Joe you may have been thinking of mine which I know you saw some pictures of and is built very similarly to Matt's. Anyway those pics are great, looking forward to release. Regarding the competition, if the matchup with Bluejack is being considered I'd love to do Bluejack seeing as I've played it a couple of times. That's the confusion! |
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Post by theclv24 on Jun 5, 2018 9:55:48 GMT -5
Updated the original post with details, and hoping to add a couple more WIP courses once I receive confirmation.
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Post by joegolferg on Jun 6, 2018 14:19:38 GMT -5
Put me in.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2018 18:11:05 GMT -5
Part of me remains highly intrigued by this, and yet part of my knows I can't hold a candle to mrooola, @mfritch27 and joegolferg, especially when it comes to RCR, since I've never done one of those. And still another part of me is vastly confused by something: which is preferred, and actual RCR or an inspired by RCR? I mean, a lot of the scoring rubric would be hard to hold against the designer if he were following a "template" of an actual RCR, right? How can he be faulted for strategy, architecture, playability, etc. when it's an RCR (essentially not his ideas)? Also, I would have no idea how to go about picking a course for this. So, while I remain intrigued, I think I'm way out of my league here. |
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Post by PithyDoctorG on Jun 7, 2018 18:28:09 GMT -5
I would say it's more "inspired by" since the design window is probably too short to do a (faithful) full-blown RCR. My understanding is that it's up to the designer as to how far to take that inspiration. For example, a person doing a course inspired by Pebble Beach (which wouldn't be that good an idea because there's already a RCR of Pebble) wouldn't necessarily be duty-bound to make 17 and 18 a par 3 and par 5, respectively, with water on the left (though one might want to). It's still incumbent on the designer to create something that is fun to play and doesn't have serious playability issues. At least that's my thinking. theclv24 may feel free to chime in if he thinks differently. In my opinion, a good choice for a course is one that is generally well-regarded but perhaps not as "visible" as courses that are on TV frequently. I think the courses inspiring mrooola and mattf27 (Gozzer Ranch and Ballyneal) are terrific examples of courses that are perhaps not as well known as they should be. Folks kicked around a lot of ideas in the original "gauging feedback" thread if you're curious. Part of me remains highly intrigued by this, and yet part of my knows I can't hold a candle to mrooola , @mfritch27 and joegolferg , especially when it comes to RCR, since I've never done one of those. And still another part of me is vastly confused by something: which is preferred, and actual RCR or an inspired by RCR? I mean, a lot of the scoring rubric would be hard to hold against the designer if he were following a "template" of an actual RCR, right? How can he be faulted for strategy, architecture, playability, etc. when it's an RCR (essentially not his ideas)? Also, I would have no idea how to go about picking a course for this. So, while I remain intrigued, I think I'm way out of my league here. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2018 18:56:09 GMT -5
If I were to do this contest, one course that interests me is Hershey Golf Club - West Course, due to its rich tradition. It was designed by Maurice McCarthy, who doesn't have a very extensive profile from what I can tell, as he mostly designed in the PA, NY, and NJ area and seemed to have a parkland/municipal type style. But Hershey is near my home, I've played it many times, and it even claims Ben Hogan as their golf professional from 1941-1951. Although this course hosted the 1940 PGA Championship (won by Byron Nelson), it only measures at 6,860 yards from the back tees, which would be eaten alive on TGC Tours. My goal if allowed to do this course would be to make it an "inspired-by" course, extremely close in layout, sculpting, and parkland style (and would likely choose Autumn or Harvest within the game to match the local trees). But I would need to add an additional set of tees to add length to the course, which I'd be willing to do and their locations would be carefully chosen based on design and strategy of current club distances. What do you think theclv24? www.hersheycountryclub.com/golf/west-course |
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Post by PithyDoctorG on Jun 7, 2018 19:21:29 GMT -5
If I were to do this contest, one course that interests me is Hershey Golf Club - West Course, due to its rich tradition. It was designed by Maurice McCarthy, who doesn't have a very extensive profile from what I can tell, as he mostly designed in the PA, NY, and NJ area and seemed to have a parkland/municipal type style. But Hershey is near my home, I've played it many times, and it even claims Ben Hogan as their golf professional from 1941-1951. Although this course hosted the 1940 PGA Championship (won by Byron Nelson), it only measures at 6,860 yards from the back tees, which would be eaten alive on TGC Tours. My goal if allowed to do this course would be to make it an "inspired-by" course, extremely close in layout, sculpting, and parkland style (and would likely choose Autumn or Harvest within the game to match the local trees). But I would need to add an additional set of tees to add length to the course, which I'd be willing to do and their locations would be carefully chosen based on design and strategy of current club distances. What do you think theclv24 ? www.hersheycountryclub.com/golf/west-courseI'm not Craig, but that sounds great. I stayed at the lodge once and was going to play it but got rained out. A colleague of mine's son is a member there, so I hope to get out to play it sooner or later. |
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Post by jacobkessler on Jun 7, 2018 20:05:18 GMT -5
I’d take you on, VctryLnSprts! There’s this course up by Lake Erie called Catawba Island Club that I’d be interested in doing an inspired-by course of. The club opened in 1920 and, though I’m not sure about previous years, hosted a US Open Local Qualifier this year. It was designed by Arthur Hills, and it’s just a really fun design. Main thing that makes me want to go against you is I’d also want to do it in the Autumn/Harvest theme... www.cicclub.com/Default.aspx?p=DynamicModule&pageid=328368&ssid=223707&vnf=1Obviously up to you and Craig, but if you’re both on board I’d be happy to do it! Now I am on vacation for two weeks and need to submit my course into your contest, so I’d prefer if we started after July 15, and even more preferably in early August, but I’m pretty flexible any time after that. Let me know guys! |
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