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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2015 11:48:30 GMT -5
The pitch and flop can be handy, I did once last week, 100 feet, up a giant red slope, had no idea what the break was, figured it was legal and why stand there and have the putt come back to me. Same option comes to me again, I will turn around and putt it off the green and go from there, fairly simple choice.
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Post by splittailace on Jan 23, 2015 11:49:13 GMT -5
A good rule. Sick of trying to putt through sand filled holes on the greens
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Post by Pubknight on Jan 23, 2015 11:49:45 GMT -5
Just as a suggestion (if you haven't done it already), since W04 play can start as early as tomorrow, you might want to send out an email to everyone on the policy.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2015 11:51:58 GMT -5
I actually think the putting is the best part of the game and love the challenge of a long putt, no way would I chip or lob from 100yds unless I had something in my way
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Post by Pave on Jan 23, 2015 11:52:34 GMT -5
Well, aside in most gigantic-greens with all sort of "roll"-changes / "hills" / lump-infestations, the lack of green / putting-grid in "super"-long distances isn't all that problematic most of the times; there are players playing without any sort of grids or other "meters" after all (if rules allow them to do so, that is).
Also, putting the ball out of the green for the "re-chip" occasionally is very tempting (and I've done this few times accidentally)...
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Post by CongoGB on Jan 23, 2015 11:54:00 GMT -5
Whether people agree with this or not is one thing, but I'm very glad to see the team are quick with making policies and informing everyone. Well done!
There are times when I've used the flop shot on the green, but now I know I can't, I won't. Simple and easy as that! :-)
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Post by schatuk on Jan 23, 2015 11:59:22 GMT -5
Also, to police this, but allow the blatant wind cheating slide is ridiculous. The issue with the wind is how do you police it? It's impossible to do in any meaningful way |
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Post by Garno on Jan 23, 2015 12:01:59 GMT -5
I don't fully agree with this policy. I am regularly faced with putts where the grid does not extend all the way out to where I'm hitting the ball from. So was this policy decided upon by the select 1337 players who never hit the ball outside 30 ft from the flag? Also, to police this, but allow the blatant wind cheating slide is ridiculous. It is not that difficult to get the ball done in two from say 70 ft if the the green is not too severe Yep, so easy. That's why I've made so many cuts this year. I wasn't one to exploit the chipping, but in extreme circumstances it was nice to have the freedom to use it (and I only ever used this in a worst case scenario). Now I have to bend over and take it while the wind cheaters get the run of the tours. GG tgctours. |
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Post by SweetTeeBag on Jan 23, 2015 12:05:31 GMT -5
Just want this to be clear. Is pitching and flopping not allowed as well then? Just don't want there to be any confusion.
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Post by Garno on Jan 23, 2015 12:09:19 GMT -5
Also, to police this, but allow the blatant wind cheating slide is ridiculous. The issue with the wind is how do you police it? It's impossible to do in any meaningful way I understand, but it grinds my gears when I am outdriven on every hole by the top players in the last euro tour event, I get pissed. When I play a round, I play no matter what the wind is. Others reload until they get the wind most favourable to the shot they are trying to hit. IMO this is worse than using a shot built into the game in a manner allowed by the game. Loading until you get the wind you want is exploiting a loophole that has nothing with hitting a shot. |
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Post by mellowswe on Jan 23, 2015 12:18:58 GMT -5
The issue with the wind is how do you police it? It's impossible to do in any meaningful way I understand, but it grinds my gears when I am outdriven on every hole by the top players in the last euro tour event, I get pissed. When I play a round, I play no matter what the wind is. Others reload until they get the wind most favourable to the shot they are trying to hit. IMO this is worse than using a shot built into the game in a manner allowed by the game. Loading until you get the wind you want is exploiting a loophole that has nothing with hitting a shot. Ok let me just see if I understand you correctly; You're saying that there are people who will play their tee shot in one wind, then log off and wait until the wind changes, play their approach and putt, then do the same thing for the next hole and all the shots for the rest of the round?? Or do you just mean that they get on the first tee, see a strong wind and log off to wait for a better one, and then play their round? |
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Post by TROWELHEAD on Jan 23, 2015 12:18:56 GMT -5
Those who dont agree with this policy will cite thats its legal and pros do it ,however the same pros have had to go through years of dedication to get there and in a career spanning say 20 yrs have chipped on the greens less times than the fingers on one hand .We are playing a game thats been around for a few months and people need to practice their game whether its approach play or putting to avoid taking the easy route and chipping or flopping on greens simply because you dont like what youre faced with ie a tricky putt . Enjoy , its only a game !
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Post by Tim on Jan 23, 2015 12:21:17 GMT -5
The issue with the wind is how do you police it? It's impossible to do in any meaningful way I understand, but it grinds my gears when I am outdriven on every hole by the top players in the last euro tour event, I get pissed. When I play a round, I play no matter what the wind is. Others reload until they get the wind most favourable to the shot they are trying to hit. IMO this is worse than using a shot built into the game in a manner allowed by the game. Loading until you get the wind you want is exploiting a loophole that has nothing with hitting a shot. I feel you on this one, and I have asked HBS repeatedly about it and get the same answer each time. They can't fix this unless they rewrite the entire global wind system -- which they are not going to do. So unless we do something like tighten the deadlines for rounds 1 & 2 to limit the chance of perfect conditions -- there really isn't anything we can do here. One thing that would help if is I could get an API that will allow me to see the # of restarts in a tournament round. We could then limit these per tournament. That's better than the way it is now where one is not limited to the # of times they can come in leave and come back. That's the last I'll say on this one -- like to see this thread stay on the chipping on greens discussion. |
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Post by Tim on Jan 23, 2015 12:22:13 GMT -5
Just want this to be clear. Is pitching and flopping not allowed as well then? Just don't want there to be any confusion. Yes, anything that involves hitting a shot on the green without a putting in your hand is considered "chipping" in our definition of the rule. |
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Post by SweetTeeBag on Jan 23, 2015 12:23:44 GMT -5
Just want this to be clear. Is pitching and flopping not allowed as well then? Just don't want there to be any confusion. Yes, anything that involves hitting a shot on the green without a putting in your hand is considered "chipping" in our definition of the rule. Thanks Tim. That's all I need to know. |
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