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Post by Giraffe72 on Oct 15, 2017 9:06:03 GMT -5
Well that's a bad start to my theory of this being a non issue  But still early days, let's see what's going on after a few weeks. Edit, just looked at the Spoiler Thread and Tim said he used Standard clubs. Surely he's on a wind up? |
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Post by Moe Slorkman on Oct 15, 2017 9:06:39 GMT -5
Mandatory Tour Clubs for World Tour Only Tour clubs are mandatory for the World Tour only (WGC and Major fields included). It will be policed much like our chipping on the greens policy (policed by members). If you see someone on the leaderboard that is using Player Clubs take a pic and email commish@tgctours.com and they will be removed. PGA, Euro, Web, CC-Pro, CC-Am members can use any club type they want. Utter bullshit decision IMO and by the poll that was ran the majority of the players. Think this is the worst decision made by the powers and would think there'll be some walk aways over this Damn, all this guy does is b%& about everything.. You say as you b%& about me b%&ing. Never mind you give out about every course Must be happy you can use the clubs |
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Post by mrooola on Oct 15, 2017 9:12:42 GMT -5
I've said this since the start of the club debate and got laughed at and told how horribly wrong I was and how stupid it was to even suggest it.
No I don't think the average Joe using player clubs will be better than the best players using tour clubs. I do think however when some of the best players start using player clubs we will see them at the top. Case and point has always been Tim.
Since beta and the beginning of this game before tgct started up again Tim tore most courses to shreds with the player clubs. He stopped playing the game as far as I know when tour club's became mandatory, thus not playing the last few weeks and thus not qualifying for the Rocher Tour. He WILL dominate PGA with player clubs if given a chance and he will quit again if he gets promoted.
Scenario will probably be the same with many of the top players who are struggling with tour clubs.
On cc I feel the tour club's actually has an advantage as the distance will mean a greater benefit for those who are not as skilled as the best. Give the best players player clubs and the benefits of the player clubs on approaches gets much more benefit than the distance ever will.
To be perfectly clear here. This post is not intended to be a slight against anyone who use player clubs or Tim in particular. If it's within the rules it's within the rules. Doesn't stop me from thinking it's a bad rule though.
Also... you thought courses being released now were silky long? This won't help...
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Post by feng187 on Oct 15, 2017 9:15:51 GMT -5
Burtoncat is in the clubhouse at -57 with player clubs. I’ll be surprised if anyone beats that. Amazing isnt it. He couldn't hit a barn door when he stopped using that dodgy controller and now he's back with a bang using the player clubs |
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Post by mrooola on Oct 15, 2017 9:27:01 GMT -5
A few serious questions.
Since both PGA and Rocher Tour plays most weeks on the same society, but under different rules. Wouldn't that imply that the top tour policing it self be more difficult then if both tours did the same? I can't wrap my head around this.
If I finish dead last on Rocher Tour. Do I get less WGR points than someone finishing top 5 on PGA using player clubs? Seems a tad silly once again that they can out perform me on the course using a different set of rules and also gaining an advantage when it comes to WGR No?
Will any of this ever start to make sense or am I just so dense I don't get it and don't deserve to?
Ranger squads will need more heads. I won't ever ranger a course with player clubs
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Post by Generic_Casual on Oct 15, 2017 9:29:17 GMT -5
I wish this thread would just not exist anymore.  I sincerely do NOT give a @!$# what clubs anyone uses. I play to play. I suck. Rinse and repeat.  |
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Post by rhino4life on Oct 15, 2017 9:37:52 GMT -5
-57 on player clubs. Quality. -57 would be acceptable with Tour Clubs? Im sure you will see these types of scores with different sets of sticks as the week progresses if we dont die first from lack of oxygen. One posted score doesnt mean much especially with a top 50 player. |
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Post by fadgewacker on Oct 15, 2017 9:45:23 GMT -5
-57 on player clubs. Quality. -57 would be acceptable with Tour Clubs? Im sure you will see these types of scores with different sets of sticks as the week progresses if we dont die first from lack of oxygen. One posted score doesnt mean much especially with a top 50 player. We could go round and round here... but if I’m not mistaken this guy can’t challenge the top 50 with tour clubs... which is sort of the point. Tours promote and reward repeated accurate input from the player. Hence the best players can use them very very well. More than just the top 50 have battled hard to get the most out of the most demanding clubs, which is where the latest change is striking a chord. I’m not the least bit surprised by it, and there will be scores like that with tours too. Through all of this, in my mind, the last thing we want are less people playing on tour. In that light, I’m interested to see what happens, regardless of what I believe to be right. |
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Post by AFCTUJacko on Oct 15, 2017 9:46:01 GMT -5
Does feel a bit like Doyley is trying to systematically p**s off each group of players at a time. Wondering what's next - all Web players must play their rounds wearing a Sombrero?  |
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Post by Moe Slorkman on Oct 15, 2017 10:04:13 GMT -5
Well they've pissed of Euro players
Now they've pissed of tour club users
Euro tour club users are exceptionally pissed off
Smurf is banned no idea why or for how long so he's exponentially pissed off
Fun times
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Post by rhino4life on Oct 15, 2017 10:21:41 GMT -5
-57 would be acceptable with Tour Clubs? Im sure you will see these types of scores with different sets of sticks as the week progresses if we dont die first from lack of oxygen. One posted score doesnt mean much especially with a top 50 player. We could go round and round here... but if I’m not mistaken this guy can’t challenge the top 50 with tour clubs... which is sort of the point. Tours promote and reward repeated accurate input from the player. Hence the best players can use them very very well. More than just the top 50 have battled hard to get the most out of the most demanding clubs, which is where the latest change is striking a chord. I’m not the least bit surprised by it, and there will be scores like that with tours too. Through all of this, in my mind, the last thing we want are less people playing on tour. In that light, I’m interested to see what happens, regardless of what I believe to be right. Valid points. |
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Post by splittailace on Oct 15, 2017 10:31:43 GMT -5
I am happy with the decision. I have been playing this game since Day 1 @ 3 years ago. I am one of many long timers that have considered walking away because of the mandatory clubs on "xx" tour. I will be happy being able to use the other clubs. Finally being able to play a course instead of playing my swing was what made the 1st game so popular and the reason for this community. I'll no longer have to give 95% of my focus to the swing tempo.
Stop crying about the decision made. Those of us who can't play worth a $*&^ with tour clubs will never be able compete on 7600 yard courses with you tour club gurus. So what's the big damn deal...
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Post by shoey101 on Oct 15, 2017 10:37:23 GMT -5
I am happy with the decision. I have been playing this game since Day 1 @ 3 years ago. I am one of many long timers that have considered walking away because of the mandatory clubs on "xx" tour. I will be happy being able to use the other clubs. Finally being able to play a course instead of playing my swing was what made the 1st game so popular and the reason for this community. I'll no longer have to give 95% of my focus to the swing tempo. Stop crying about the decision made. Those of us who can't play worth a $*&^ with tour clubs will never be able compete on 7600 yard courses with you tour club gurus. So what's the big damn deal... If you want to use player clubs drop down to the web. If you want to compete and play with the top guys on the top tour people need to take the time to learn how to use tour clubs and join the big boys. Its not like they werent giving guys an option to drop down a tour and use whatever clubs they want. Top tours should be the best guys using the hardest settings. |
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Post by yaters on Oct 15, 2017 10:39:25 GMT -5
Do u know want to know something, I don't give two hoots what club set u all want to use, and do u know why? Its because i know my live playing partner will be using the same clubs as me, so lets get this party started. Good luck all.  Live playing partners should be banned (though I doubt they can enforce it). That’s ripe for anyone that likes to stretch the boundaries of the rules to get an advantage/cheat. Way worse than ghosts. Imagine getting to talk to a ghost about their shot? Not saying you do anything wrong. You’ve been a quality player a long time. But in principle, it’s an easy way to skirt the system. sorry, can of worms... |
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Post by splittailace on Oct 15, 2017 10:40:38 GMT -5
I am happy with the decision. I have been playing this game since Day 1 @ 3 years ago. I am one of many long timers that have considered walking away because of the mandatory clubs on "xx" tour. I will be happy being able to use the other clubs. Finally being able to play a course instead of playing my swing was what made the 1st game so popular and the reason for this community. I'll no longer have to give 95% of my focus to the swing tempo. Stop crying about the decision made. Those of us who can't play worth a $*&^ with tour clubs will never be able compete on 7600 yard courses with you tour club gurus. So what's the big damn deal... If you want to use player clubs drop down to the web. If you want to compete and play with the top guys on the top tour people need to take the time to learn how to use tour clubs and join the big boys. Its not like they werent giving guys an option to drop down a tour and use whatever clubs they want. Top tours should be the best guys using the hardest settings. I'm not going to get into any arguments. That's your opinion and I already posted mine. |
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