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Post by lessangster on Sept 2, 2017 3:17:51 GMT -5
These people just might be that good at moving a little stick backwards and forwards in a very straight line.😜
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Post by Errol1967 on Sept 5, 2017 10:40:58 GMT -5
Looked at some scores today....its insane. Im not the best player, but how the hell can you shoot like that? I can putt very well, especially long distances, but I suck at chipping. I still like the game, but I lose interest in this game, everyday a little bit more. Some players on the top of some leaderboards have 100% driving accuracy...really? Loaded some ghost and saw enough straight shooters and their scores are still on the board. I tell ya that these so called API isnt working. Fair play policy is totaly BS if you ask me. Enough players with third party controllers and nothing you can do about it. No way you can check these, with all respect. I left your society scarpacci , cause of these scores, cant compete with that, no fun at all. I left other societies as well. This game starts to be a joke with these scores and cheating and what Im so afraid of, good designers start to make tricked up BS courses, because of this, many new courses with way to narrow fairways and greens and most of them are in favour of tour clubs, wich takes away the fun of the game. To bad Everybody's Golf doesnt have course designer, if it had it ingame...TGC2 is gone. I was moaning a lot before the last patch, but it plays much smoother atm, but still Tour Clubs is unplayable for me and many others on the PS4 Pro. HB said there are no issues...freaking liars...take the money and run. Since Anthony left, HB lost the love for this high potential game and they are destroying it and not listening to their customers it seems, maybe its Maximum @!$#ing Games I dunno. Never liked MG anyway...they suck big time. Well enough moaning for me today, we see what the future of TGC will bring us! |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2017 10:48:39 GMT -5
Looked at some scores today....its insane. Im not the best player, but how the hell can you shoot like that? I can putt very well, especially long distances, but I suck at chipping. I still like the game, but I lose interest in this game, everyday a little bit more. Some players on the top of some leaderboards have 100% driving accuracy...really? Loaded some ghost and saw enough straight shooters and their scores are still on the board. I tell ya that these so called API isnt working. Fair play policy is totaly BS if you ask me. Enough players with third party controllers and nothing you can do about it. No way you can check these, with all respect. I left your society scarpacci , cause of these scores, cant compete with that, no fun at all. I left other societies as well. This game starts to be a joke with these scores and cheating and what Im so afraid of, good designers start to make tricked up BS courses, because of this, many new courses with way to narrow fairways and greens and most of them are in favour of tour clubs, wich takes away the fun of the game. To bad Everybody's Golf doesnt have course designer, if it had it ingame...TGC2 is gone. I was moaning a lot before the last patch, but it plays much smoother atm, but still Tour Clubs is unplayable for me and many others on the PS4 Pro. HB said there are no issues...freaking liars...take the money and run. Since Anthony left, HB lost the love for this high potential game and they are destroying it and not listening to their customers it seems, maybe its Maximum @!$#ing Games I dunno. Never liked MG anyway...they suck big time. Well enough moaning for me today, we see what the future of TGC will bring us! API checks aren't done until around cut time from what I have read. |
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Post by edi_vedder on Sept 5, 2017 19:57:54 GMT -5
He said he left Scarpacci's Society. There are no API checks in whatever Society you're in, Errol. Except those from TGCTours, which does them (externally). So of course you'll see some straight shooters on that leaderboards. Well... just another indicator for me how messed up everything within those Societies is. If there wasn't TGCTours, I probably would have stopped playing TGC2 after 1-2 weeks. After Update/Patch #1 at the latest.  |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2017 20:26:57 GMT -5
Society events simply don't matter to me, which is why I jump in and out of them regularly to suit whatever time I have available. Now that we're going again properly I doubt I'll complete many events, unless they're a 1 rounder.
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Post by Errol1967 on Sept 6, 2017 1:57:39 GMT -5
He said he left Scarpacci's Society. There are no API checks in whatever Society you're in, Errol. Except those from TGCTours, which does them (externally). So of course you'll see some straight shooters on that leaderboards. Well... just another indicator for me how messed up everything within those Societies is. If there wasn't TGCTours, I probably would have stopped playing TGC2 after 1-2 weeks. After Update/Patch #1 at the latest. Its not just the societies, in tgctours aswell. We see after the cut what will happen with some high scores and straight shooters and cheaters. I hope this API works, otherwise Im finished with this game, maybe spend more time in designer and watch more design videos. I still need to finish my first course...lol |
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Post by edi_vedder on Sept 6, 2017 2:21:28 GMT -5
He said he left Scarpacci's Society. There are no API checks in whatever Society you're in, Errol. Except those from TGCTours, which does them (externally). So of course you'll see some straight shooters on that leaderboards. Well... just another indicator for me how messed up everything within those Societies is. If there wasn't TGCTours, I probably would have stopped playing TGC2 after 1-2 weeks. After Update/Patch #1 at the latest. Its not just the societies, in tgctours aswell. We see after the cut what will happen with some high scores and straight shooters and cheaters. I hope this API works, otherwise Im finished with this game, maybe spend more time in designer and watch more design videos. I still need to finish my first course...lol Some serious accusations here without having any real evidence & all just being speculative. Sorry Errol, I think you're making it yourself too "easy" here. |
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Post by Errol1967 on Sept 6, 2017 3:26:27 GMT -5
Its not just the societies, in tgctours aswell. We see after the cut what will happen with some high scores and straight shooters and cheaters. I hope this API works, otherwise Im finished with this game, maybe spend more time in designer and watch more design videos. I still need to finish my first course...lol Some serious accusations here without having any real evidence & all just being speculative. Sorry Errol, I think you're making it yourself too "easy" here. Easy with what? |
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Post by edi_vedder on Sept 6, 2017 3:38:19 GMT -5
With saying "anybody else is cheating/straight-shooting or whatever and that is why I'm not competitive at all and/or nowhere near the top of the leaderboards".  |
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Post by frank70 on Sept 6, 2017 6:02:13 GMT -5
It's the fault of HB. Or better: They want the game to be easy and i understand that. The "normal" (young) video gamer wants to shoot 55 - and he wants to be able to shoot that without any work to do. This is where the money comes from.
Of course HB still could have made the tour clubs harder to play - but they didn't. A lot of guys here are hitting almost the same spot in the cone again and again. I cannot do that - for me the difficulty of the cone is okay. The real trigger to make scoring more realistic/swing execution a bit harder would be the tempo element. Although it is in the game, it is more or less a none factor. I am not perfect/perfect maybe once every two rounds.
If it where more granular and a slight tempo error (comparable to maybe 3 or 4 pixels left in the cone) would have more consequences for the outcome of the shot (direction and distance), we would have a better game. The best players would maybe putt from 15 feet for birdie instead of from 8 feet.
a few other things:
- make putting straight a lot harder. It's almost impossible to push or pull the ball significantly. Therefore every more or less straight putt is almost a gimmie inside ~ 10 feet.
- get the ball physics right. Pitches, chips and flops are not difficult enough to control the distance. It's more or less throwing darts cause of the high amount of spin HB gave these shots. There should be way more roll on the ball - especially out of the rough. That would make scrambling much more realistic and harder.
- implement "overswinging": right now you can underswing but you cannot go over 100% power. You even can stop at the end of the swing and dial in a distance. If there were an exact point in the animation where you hit exactly 100% and you could overswing to, say, 110% until the motion of the animation stops, distance control would be way harder. An 98% 4 iron would fly considerably shorter than a 102% 4 iron.
- reduce the loft/deloft feature considerably
What can TGCT do?
- playing with higher winds regularly
- designers have to come up with longer courses (although it would be a shame to not see many real courses on Tour then)
but all in all that won't help much cause the swing mechanic is too easy/not complex enough and the poor ball physics bail the players out if they really miss a green (which happens not often enough).
P.S.: A question to the admins: Do you have any "power" when you talk certain game aspects with the devs? Would they consider gameplay mechanic changes, if a strong TGCT-group would pledge to have them? Or is there no chance?
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Post by Errol1967 on Sept 6, 2017 9:42:30 GMT -5
With saying "anybody else is cheating/straight-shooting or whatever and that is why I'm not competitive at all and/or nowhere near the top of the leaderboards". Well that is not what I said what you are saying. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2017 12:28:04 GMT -5
He said he left Scarpacci's Society. There are no API checks in whatever Society you're in, Errol. Except those from TGCTours, which does them (externally). So of course you'll see some straight shooters on that leaderboards. Well... just another indicator for me how messed up everything within those Societies is. If there wasn't TGCTours, I probably would have stopped playing TGC2 after 1-2 weeks. After Update/Patch #1 at the latest. Its not just the societies, in tgctours aswell. We see after the cut what will happen with some high scores and straight shooters and cheaters. I hope this API works, otherwise Im finished with this game, maybe spend more time in designer and watch more design videos. I still need to finish my first course...lol There were API checks last week and scores were pulled off the leaderboard then. There is one at the end of the event, too, I believe. |
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Post by edi_vedder on Sept 6, 2017 18:53:06 GMT -5
With saying "anybody else is cheating/straight-shooting or whatever and that is why I'm not competitive at all and/or nowhere near the top of the leaderboards". Well that is not what I said what you are saying. If so, I apologize. To me it sounded just like that (when reading between the lines). |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2017 21:38:16 GMT -5
I only play no aids and taking away the wind speed will do nothing to raise scores. It is very easy to figure the wind meter out.
No scout cam will raise it some for sure and really shouldn't be in the game that claims to be a golf sim.
The grids give too much info and no grids give to little. Most times I can see the break with no grids but there are times you cannot. So you have to take an educated guess. The hardest putts with no grids are within 10 feet. Like real golf the hardest can be the straight putts. You have to trust your read and that can be very hard to do . No grids is not perfect but it certainly more realistic than a magical grid with beads floating on it.
What is needed is for someone to innovative green reading for golf video games. We need a green map that shows the contours of the green like you see on TV. Something that gives you an idea of the breaks but not exactly what the breaks are. So it would be a in between grids and no grids. People could step up to the map then once they are comfortable go to no grids. That would help people make the transition.
The other huge problem as stated on this thread is it's to easy to putt straight . How many of you know people who constantly push and pull putts all the time IRL? Pros do it a lot too. Look at Rory he has struggled with putting . lately.
The other biggy is the lofting. It should have been seriously reduced or removed at least for clubs above say your PW.
Also as stated on this thread we should have an overswing. Not having the ability to increase swing speed when needed with a high risk reward is not golf. It would make the back swing not so automatic as it is now as well.
Just my 10 cents.
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Post by nevadaballin on Sept 11, 2017 12:27:06 GMT -5
The scores are getting ridiculous. A month into the game and 990th ranked player just shot four rounds in the 50's at Chambers Bay. Last week, somebody ranked in the 1000's shot a 52. Pretty soon it will take 4 rounds below 55 to finish in the top 10 in PGA & Euro events. How is that fun? It's getting silly and you guys are too good to be playing with training wheels so here's my suggestion for season 3: WEB/PGA/EURO: Wind Speed: off Distances: range PGA/EURO: Scout Cam: off This has knocked 4-5 strokes of my scoring average. I also play with shot feedback and putter marker off, but I don't feel these have any effect on my scores, more of a personal preference. This has nothing to do with shaking up the names on the leaderboards. The best will remain the best, but I believe it will help keep the scores from getting so low that it discourages people from joining. 60, 58, 64, 62 looks a whole lot better than 55, 54, 52, 56. I would really love to hear people's arguments against this. In the same token, 6 of the Top 70 in WGR either missed the cut or shot above par for the event in the first official back for the PGA. The range thing looked good on paper. I was a big proponent of it before TGC2 came out. I also thought the wind should be ranged. But the implementation isn't right. All you need to do is Scout Cam and zoom in - you can figure out the distance easily. They should have made the Scout Cam non-zoomable (yes, that is now a word lol). It's a non-factor during putting. Just move the aim marker. Although your proposals would make for a more realistic experience, it would also turn off most people from playing for various reasons. Just because a few players who didn't get it done in TGC1 are playing better with TGC2 shouldn't cause concern. There are players who were great in TGC1 who are struggling as well. There's two sides to the coin  |
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