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Post by nantez88 on Jan 11, 2016 14:30:37 GMT -5
Seems to be an interesting discussion going on in web at the moment about people taking up exemption spots and not using them anywayetc just thought I'd take it to a poll
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Post by unclefester75 on Jan 11, 2016 19:21:01 GMT -5
Should not be mandatory. You dont want to play it then don't. The problem I see with letting the next guy take it is the tie situation. If 3 guys are tied for 6th place, then who gets it? Same tie breaker rules as winning?
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Post by nantez88 on Jan 12, 2016 1:43:55 GMT -5
Should not be mandatory. You dont want to play it then don't. The problem I see with letting the next guy take it is the tie situation. If 3 guys are tied for 6th place, then who gets it? Same tie breaker rules as winning? Good point man yeah see what you mean it's a tricky one just throwing it out there to see what people think
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Post by Moe Slorkman on Jan 12, 2016 1:49:14 GMT -5
Set up a 9 hole exemption playoff to be played by Midnight Sunday night all scores dont get reviled till results are up!
Just do it on the same course each week have one of the top designers do a tough course and change venue every couple of months!
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Post by dh-nufc on Jan 12, 2016 2:49:24 GMT -5
Voted yes but still think non winners should be able to turn down one or two.
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Post by gavlaar124 on Jan 12, 2016 3:50:12 GMT -5
It's an absolute yes from me!! ... cc-ers have no choice so why should we?
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Post by gavlaar124 on Jan 12, 2016 3:57:14 GMT -5
Why not have an option in your tgctours.com profile to say yes you want to take an exemption or no you don't, like the option to choose pga or euro tour? This way if someone who has indicated that they don't want to be promoted earns an exemption it could be passed down to the next best placed player? Using the existing count back rules for ties if there is one
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2016 4:29:31 GMT -5
I voted yes only reason I brought this up was a mix of too much alcohol and a faulty xb1 controller I have now switched to my original ds4
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Post by feng187 on Jan 12, 2016 5:32:30 GMT -5
I voted yes to this as I have always felt that way. Gavlaar makes a great point that why should Web be any different than CC, exemptions are mandatory there and it suits everyone fine. People may say Web is a pro tour unlike CC but at the end of the day it's a feeder tour for the main tours and there is a problem if the top talent is not moving up as intended. More and more top CC players enter web every week and very few seem to leave, it is one thing to fail on exemption and there is no shame in it at all but everyone should at least try. At the end of the day as Webbers we are all playing for promotion so why turn down the chance, all the guys with wins will be going up at the end of the season anyway but by hanging around they are stopping others getting an exemption.
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Post by Moe Slorkman on Jan 12, 2016 5:47:44 GMT -5
An extreme example been shown this week 8 valuable exemptions were given out because of ties last week.
1 went for PGA 1 went for Euro 3 have played Web 3 are registered for Web
so potentially only 25% of the exemptions will be used. Now the renegers might just not of fancied this weeks course or had some other reason but from the outside that is a scary stat! the next 6 lads in line might of been delighted to jump at the chance!
It is like when you bring a women out to a fancy restaurant and she eats half the meal and in the back of your mind you say I'd eat that and the feeling of annoyance knowing you cant but if she eat it you wouldn't have that thought.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2016 6:14:06 GMT -5
The only way I can see someone passing on an exemption to the two top tours would be they lucked out and was not that great of players yes I can respect that or it was mid late season and they would rather battle for overall web money list to get them in an major or something like that next season otherwise i dont really see the point dont we all aspire to at least do our best against the best?
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Post by champ39 on Jan 12, 2016 7:21:27 GMT -5
I haven't voted because I'm no longer on this tour.I took my excemption at the first opportunity and lucked out on the course being similar to those used on the Web. I still would have took it even if the course was difficult because I wanted a promotion and may never had gotten another chance.Haha
But at the end of the day that was a personal choice and unless the rules have changed, the use of excemptions are optional on the Web.
Now the first 2 tourneys on the PGA played relatively similar to the Web courses for me and I fared well, but the last 3 tourneys have been extremely tough for me, a player of average ability. I read a lot from established players on the PGA/Euro tours that the courses used there are too tough,(firmness,tucked pins,slopes on greens etc)and are not enjoying the game as much. I now only play on harder courses,(tour and practise/casual rounds).I have forgotten what it's like to have a sub 60 round!!!! This is now what excites me about the game, grinding for par and trying to squeeze in under the cut. But not everyone enjoys the mental torture like I do, and wants to play quickly and shoot a good score. (I take forever to play, so I only play one round per day and then need a lie down afterwards. Lol) From what I see if you want/expect to be changelling on the top tours, you better have "one hell of a game".
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2016 7:38:39 GMT -5
I haven't voted because I'm no longer on this tour.I took my excemption at the first opportunity and lucked out on the course being similar to those used on the Web. I still would have took it even if the course was difficult because I wanted a promotion and may never had gotten another chance.Haha But at the end of the day that was a personal choice and unless the rules have changed, the use of excemptions are optional on the Web. Now the first 2 tourneys on the PGA played relatively similar to the Web courses for me and I fared well, but the last 3 tourneys have been extremely tough for me, a player of average ability. I read a lot from established players on the PGA/Euro tours that the courses used there are too tough,(firmness,tucked pins,slopes on greens etc)and are not enjoying the game as much. I now only play on harder courses,(tour and practise/casual rounds).I have forgotten what it's like to have a sub 60 round!!!! This is now what excites me about the game, grinding for par and trying to squeeze in under the cut. But not everyone enjoys the mental torture like I do, and wants to play quickly and shoot a good score. (I take forever to play, so I only play one round per day and then need a lie down afterwards. Lol) From what I see if you want/expect to be changelling on the top tours, you better have "one hell of a game". the problem I had wasnt more difficult courses harder opponents I welcome that but this love for concrete greens disturbs me last weeks pga course was challenging enough with slow greens but they seem to have an unatural love for firm and fast which i dont share thats it if i ever make the pro tour i welcome the challenge but there must be better ways to make it challenging just my point of view
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Post by champ39 on Jan 12, 2016 7:55:36 GMT -5
I haven't voted because I'm no longer on this tour.I took my excemption at the first opportunity and lucked out on the course being similar to those used on the Web. I still would have took it even if the course was difficult because I wanted a promotion and may never had gotten another chance.Haha But at the end of the day that was a personal choice and unless the rules have changed, the use of excemptions are optional on the Web. Now the first 2 tourneys on the PGA played relatively similar to the Web courses for me and I fared well, but the last 3 tourneys have been extremely tough for me, a player of average ability. I read a lot from established players on the PGA/Euro tours that the courses used there are too tough,(firmness,tucked pins,slopes on greens etc)and are not enjoying the game as much. I now only play on harder courses,(tour and practise/casual rounds).I have forgotten what it's like to have a sub 60 round!!!! This is now what excites me about the game, grinding for par and trying to squeeze in under the cut. But not everyone enjoys the mental torture like I do, and wants to play quickly and shoot a good score. (I take forever to play, so I only play one round per day and then need a lie down afterwards. Lol) From what I see if you want/expect to be changelling on the top tours, you better have "one hell of a game". the problem I had wasnt more difficult courses harder opponents I welcome that but this love for concrete greens disturbs me last weeks pga course was challenging enough with slow greens but they seem to have an unatural love for firm and fast which i dont share thats it if i ever make the pro tour i welcome the challenge but there must be better ways to make it challenging just my point of view There is no real way to make it challenging for the best players here. They have the ability to plot their way around any course under any conditions. To keep scoring respectable, the conditions are tougher, so the lesser players (myself) have to grind big time. Not everybody's "cup of tea ". I personally would get less satisfaction by playing so called "birdie-fest" courses again.
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Post by feng187 on Jan 12, 2016 8:01:24 GMT -5
I haven't voted because I'm no longer on this tour.I took my excemption at the first opportunity and lucked out on the course being similar to those used on the Web. I still would have took it even if the course was difficult because I wanted a promotion and may never had gotten another chance.Haha But at the end of the day that was a personal choice and unless the rules have changed, the use of excemptions are optional on the Web. Now the first 2 tourneys on the PGA played relatively similar to the Web courses for me and I fared well, but the last 3 tourneys have been extremely tough for me, a player of average ability. I read a lot from established players on the PGA/Euro tours that the courses used there are too tough,(firmness,tucked pins,slopes on greens etc)and are not enjoying the game as much. I now only play on harder courses,(tour and practise/casual rounds).I have forgotten what it's like to have a sub 60 round!!!! This is now what excites me about the game, grinding for par and trying to squeeze in under the cut. But not everyone enjoys the mental torture like I do, and wants to play quickly and shoot a good score. (I take forever to play, so I only play one round per day and then need a lie down afterwards. Lol) From what I see if you want/expect to be changelling on the top tours, you better have "one hell of a game". the problem I had wasnt more difficult courses harder opponents I welcome that but this love for concrete greens disturbs me last weeks pga course was challenging enough with slow greens but they seem to have an unatural love for firm and fast which i dont share thats it if i ever make the pro tour i welcome the challenge but there must be better ways to make it challenging just my point of view I think the concrete greens thing is the only way course designers can suppress the scoring for the elite players and even then it doesn't seem to work but the firm and fast conditions bring in more mistakes and you have to concentrate a lot more. TGC as a game is great and my favourite golf game but like all games it suffers from the fact that you can do things easily that even the top tour pros in real life can't, for instance driving the ball is way too easy and even average players hit the fairway over 90% of the time in rounds, miss a green into thick heavy rough and you can flop it up close or chip it in no problem and even put some backspin on the ball. The straightest hitters of the real pros are only in 70-80% of fairways hit and we all know how difficult it is around the green to get up and down from heavy rough when you short side yourself. I wish HB would make tee shots and chipping more penal to be honest.
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