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Post by ErixonStone on Dec 17, 2015 11:25:35 GMT -5
Thanks Tim! I'm in the same bracket as you I reckon. -5 is the aim, but I'm more than capable of doing better than that. I haven't used the aiming marker, but having read around on the forum I see that a lot of guys do. My issue with it is that I don't quite understand why you'd move it.. Is it just a visual representation of where you want to hit the ball? Or is there an actual purpose to it? The putting marker serves two purposes: it sets the direction and helps set the power of your putt. 1. Direction - This is obvious, but your putt will start rolling towards your aiming marker. 2. Power - This is a little less obvious. The main component of putt speed is the length of your backswing, but the putting marker helps dial in the desired distance. Basically, if your putting backswing produces putting speed that is close to the distance set by the putting marker, your putt speed will be adjusted to match the distance set by the putting marker. In other words, if you set the putting market to 20 feet away, and your backswing is a little bit short and dictates the putt to travel only 19 feet, the game will adjust the speed to 20 feet. If you pull the putter all the way back and slam your putt, or if you barely take a backswing, the marker isn't going to affect the putt. The putting marker works this way to help control distance because it is not possible to exactly match backswing to distance in the same way across all PCs and consoles. There are too many technical variables involved. The result is that if you're not setting the putting marker to the desired distance, then you are making putting more difficult. On downhill putts, if the marker is 2 feet beyond the cup and you miss the putt, you're likely going to end up several feet past. On uphill putts, you may leave a few putts short. The game makes suggestions on putt speed, and it's usually OK for uphill putts. For downhill putts, if you're not adjusting the marker, then you risk sending the ball way past the hole.
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Post by Roberto Busatto on Dec 17, 2015 12:21:13 GMT -5
I've played your practice Tournament 2 times now Tim.....-8 the first time through....-21 the 2nd time through. Should have been -25 or -26...I had it to 4 under in my final round before I started spraying it. OK my friends...I missed you all First round of the practice CC12 tour was a -8...maybe a lucky one but playing 5/6 rounds without the grid (even if very frustrating) will for sure help reading the greens with the grids... My plan are changing as I'm yet not enough skilled at reading greens without grids, I will keep trying at no aids tour but I will definitely stick here with my CC friends and try to reach you at CC-D take care Roberto
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Post by TimB on Dec 17, 2015 14:06:46 GMT -5
I did about 3 or 4 tournaments of the True Sim, never made the cut once, had maybe one or two rounds under par, but wasn't for me.
And it takes way too long to play a round.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2015 14:18:36 GMT -5
Oh, broke my 1 under today with a 2 under on Sunday. My putting is improving. I made a couple of 20 footers today and a few from over 7 ft. I think I can maybe hit 10 under for the tourney. I know that isn't anything to write home about but I think it'll keep me in the top 70 given how tough Saturday and Sunday are.
Am actually looking forward to this now.
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Post by nocturnal on Dec 17, 2015 16:59:30 GMT -5
Oh, broke my 1 under today with a 2 under on Sunday. My putting is improving. I made a couple of 20 footers today and a few from over 7 ft. I think I can maybe hit 10 under for the tourney. I know that isn't anything to write home about but I think it'll keep me in the top 70 given how tough Saturday and Sunday are. Am actually looking forward to this now. At any skill level, having the right mindset and not getting discouraged is the key to improving and being able to get the best possible finish in the toughest of conditions. If you have a 200 yard approach with a 18 mph crosswind to an Island green....so did everyone else. The whole point of a competitive match is not to dominate a course or shoot X amount of stokes under par. All you have to worry about it getting the ball in the cup in fewer stokes than everyone else.... on some holes and under some conditions that may be for par or even bogey. Glad your giving it a chance....looks like your game is already improving because of it!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2015 17:11:04 GMT -5
Oh, broke my 1 under today with a 2 under on Sunday. My putting is improving. I made a couple of 20 footers today and a few from over 7 ft. I think I can maybe hit 10 under for the tourney. I know that isn't anything to write home about but I think it'll keep me in the top 70 given how tough Saturday and Sunday are. Am actually looking forward to this now. At any skill level, having the right mindset and not getting discouraged is the key to improving and being able to get the best possible finish in the toughest of conditions. If you have a 200 yard approach with a 18 mph crosswind to an Island green....so did everyone else. The whole point of a competitive match is not to dominate a course or shoot X amount of stokes under par. All you have to worry about it getting the ball in the cup in fewer stokes than everyone else.... on some holes and under some conditions that may be for par or even bogey. Glad your giving it a chance....looks like your game is already improving because of it! No question this course is making me a better golfer.
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Post by pablo on Dec 17, 2015 17:21:17 GMT -5
At any skill level, having the right mindset and not getting discouraged is the key to improving and being able to get the best possible finish in the toughest of conditions. If you have a 200 yard approach with a 18 mph crosswind to an Island green....so did everyone else. The whole point of a competitive match is not to dominate a course or shoot X amount of stokes under par. All you have to worry about it getting the ball in the cup in fewer stokes than everyone else.... on some holes and under some conditions that may be for par or even bogey. Glad your giving it a chance....looks like your game is already improving because of it! No question this course is making me a better golfer. I don't agree wag. It's your practice that is making it. And your (i think) better mental approach to the game
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2015 17:56:18 GMT -5
No question this course is making me a better golfer. I don't agree wag. It's your practice that is making it. And your (i think) better mental approach to the game Well, this is the first course that I've played that made me want to study it so much and figure out how to beat it. And maybe that's what I need to do with each course I play. Maybe I'll never be a "natural" and just go onto any course the first time and be good at it. And that's fine. It's not like practicing at this game is such drudgery.
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Post by pablo on Dec 17, 2015 17:58:31 GMT -5
I don't agree wag. It's your practice that is making it. And your (i think) better mental approach to the game Well, this is the first course that I've played that made me want to study it so much and figure out how to beat it. And maybe that's what I need to do with each course I play. Maybe I'll never be a "natural" and just go onto any course the first time and be good at it. And that's fine. It's not like practicing at this game is such drudgery. But that's the way it is. I'm not a natural player. I study the courses I play, and maybe after three rounds I start to make results. Only now I'm starting to understand the game
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Post by mrooola on Dec 18, 2015 4:24:14 GMT -5
I have to say that I like the way this thread is shaping up to be more about progress rather than moaning. I've said it before and I'll say it again. Play to your strengths come tournament day and play against the competition rather than the course. There is nothing wrong in playing for par if the conditions dictate it. Keep plugging guys and I'll leave you with a tip for the firm greens. If you think holding a green will be hard and the outcome of an attempt can result in very long puts or chips lay up at a reasonable distance. For pqr 5s I would club down more than most I think to have aproaches 50-100 meters insted of 15-30. I'm not a pro so take this advice with a grain of salt. If I have 69 meters to the pin on firm greens I go with a normal swing rather than a pitch. The normal stroke gets more spin and is easier to stop on a firm green. So less roll out. A Euro tour player told me I was bonkers, but it works for me. It does get affected mor by the wind tough. I'm a metric man so do the translation to yardages yourself Good luck!
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Post by ABU_Bear on Dec 18, 2015 17:06:53 GMT -5
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Post by pablo on Dec 22, 2015 4:52:53 GMT -5
Already played it twice. The second time I improved the score by seven shots. In a couple of hundreds of more plays I'll be ready to win!!!!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2015 8:14:54 GMT -5
It seems the more I play this course the worse I get. The other day I had my worst round ever on the Saturday setup at 8 over par. Winds were up around 10 to 15 mph. Between that and the worst pin placements I have ever seen (PGA recommendations thrown right out the window) it was brutal.
I'm really not looking forward to this and quite honestly, can't wait until this week is over and I never have to play this course again. I am growing to hate it more and more every single day.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2015 9:30:35 GMT -5
Well, I just shot 13 over on the Sunday setup.
Congrats to the designer for creating my most hated course in this whole game. It takes a lot to earn that honor, believe me.
This course attacks you savagely on 3 fronts and when the wind blows, forget it.
Front 1) - Too many approach shots simply have no clear path to the green or too many hazards in between to get any kind of decent position when greens are firm. You literally have to take your best option (put it in the rough) and hope for a decent chip out.
Front 2) - Green slopes. I've come to discover that they are simply horrible. 4 footers that are adventures. One hole is so badly sloped around the pin that even a 3 footer is an exercise is extreme concentration and advanced calculus trying to figure out just where to point your putter. The PGA would have a field day with these greens.
Front 3) - Hole lengths purposely made to make 2nd or even tee shots a no win situation, especially the par 3s.
Put all 3 of these things together and you might as well just close your eyes and guess.
I could go through this course on a hole by hole basis and do my critique but quite simply, I just don't care enough anymore to bother.
I've finally reached the point where I don't even want to practice this course anymore and probably won't. If I don't withdraw from this tournament I'll just go into the day's event, shoot my 4 rounds as quickly as I can and put this whole nightmare behind me.
Again, nothing personal against the creator but I just simply detest this course. I can't find one hole that I like playing outside of the first par 5. It's the only one I would call easy.
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Post by TimB on Dec 22, 2015 9:55:39 GMT -5
How are you doing for Strikes Wagtunes? You have one right? Just take the screw it approach. Worst case you get another strike then have the following week to try and erase them. Thats not the best advice, but if the course is causing you that much aggravation it may be best to just go at it with a who cares approach. I'm kind of doing the same.
I actually do ok on the course, it's the Thursday setups I struggle with, Sunday I can usually go bogey free and end up under par. I was lucky enough to erase all strikes last week so I am going at Yuchi with a who cares approach, still going to do my best, but I am not going to let it stress me.
I had to stop playing the course for a few days, I was trying to hard to best my own scores and frustrating myself. Only just started to play it again today, not doing to well I might add. lol
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