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Post by nocturnal on Dec 16, 2015 6:34:30 GMT -5
Ok, I just played the Sunday version with fairly light winds (1-7mph) I was -6 at the turn and finished up at -10..... 10 birds and 8 pars. I know it's my course and I am a Euro player (a bottom feeder) but it can be done. I didn't land all of my approaches where I intended and missed a few putts I probably should have made. I aimed my approaches to land short and break toward the cup and I laid up on most par 5's playing for birdie. 10 birds and 8 pars. PC players can play my ghost. Nocturnal
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2015 7:36:58 GMT -5
Ok, I just played the Sunday version with fairly light winds (1-7mph) I was -6 at the turn and finished up at -10..... 10 birds and 8 pars. I know it's my course and I am a Euro player (a bottom feeder) but it can be done. I didn't land all of my approaches where I intended and missed a few putts I probably should have made. I aimed my approaches to land short and break toward the cup and I laid up on most par 5's playing for birdie. 10 birds and 8 pars. PC players can play my ghost. Nocturnal No offense, but I would expect the designer of the course to do well on it with all the countless hours of testing that you had to do in order to get the course into the condition it's in now so this doesn't really mean much. I don't have that kind of endless time to get that good at it. Best I can hope for on Sunday is par, which I've made once. Most times now I am 1 or 2 over and I can live with that. If I can shoot 5 under on Thursday, that's 10 under for the tournament and I can live with that. I know it won't win me any prizes but hopefully will sneak me into the top 70 and keep me from getting another demotion strike. Ending up in Z class would just be the final humiliation and I would probably quit if it came to that. This game is one of the most frustrating I've ever played and your Sunday course is like trying to thread a needle wearing a pair of mittens. Only positive thing I can say about your course is that it's addicting. For some reasons I can't stop playing it. I've almost gotten the layout memorized and I can't say that about any other course, not even my own. So a big thumbs up for making something that I can hate and still be addicted to at the same time. Design wise, the course is amazing. I can't take that away from you. I'll have to be reincarnated 100 times over to be a fraction of the designer that you are. My courses, frankly, suck. Another aspect of this game that I find frustrating. I have all these ideas in my head but can't execute them because I'm a klutz with the designer. Anyway, none of this is personal. Just my own frustrations at being crappy at yet another virtual sports game. Maybe I should take up tiddly winks.
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Post by nocturnal on Dec 16, 2015 7:59:35 GMT -5
Yuchi is the only successful course that I have created. Don't give up with your designs. It took me upwards of 100 hours to complete it and there were many failures prior. I don't think it rivals some of the top designers work, but I appreciate your kind words about Yuchi. I wanted it to have a unique feel to any other course out there and to reward good shots and somewhat punish not so good ones.....to test all aspects of your game and make you think carefully about every shot. Just think, we played a similar version to Thursday on the no- aids tour last year.
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Post by Roberto Busatto on Dec 16, 2015 8:07:38 GMT -5
Missing the CC practice group but I decided to give TST a go... and it's not a very easy task Have a nice Yuchi Valley time !!! Roberto
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Post by HeMan1202 on Dec 16, 2015 11:11:04 GMT -5
Week 10 Round 1 – 67 Round 2 – 65 Round 3 – 69 Round 4 – 68 Like I said, I'm pretty sure this is as good as I'm going to get having been playing since August and unable to nail putting down to any kind of science. My putting is pretty much mostly luck. I'll make 20 and 25 footers and miss 5 footers. Sometimes I guess right but most times I don't. I try to judge, based on the speed of the lines going across the green, how far right or left of the pin to aim. There just seems to be no kind of "formula". I come close (most times within 3 to 6 inches) but miss way more than I make. Anyway, I'm beat. Played more golf today than I can remember playing in 30 years since the old DOS pixel days. Time to take a break. Based on your last tourney, it seems as though you have gotten better. Putting is by far and away the #1 key to good scores in this game.
I am not sure how you set your marker, how you calculate the elevations/distance, or how you conduct your putting stroke, but I will offer you how I do it and maybe it will help (or maybe not).
Calculations are easy, for uphill putts, take the elevation, add half, and then add 2. Then add that to your distance and this is where you would put your marker). For downhill take the elevation and subtract 1/2. Then subtract that from your total distance and that is where you set your marker. (Hopefully that makes sense).
Example: if I had a 20 ft. putt uphill with a +6 inch elevation, I would take 6, add 3 and then add 2 to make it a total of 11. I would then add 11 to 20 and set my marker at 31 feet.
Example: if I had a 20 ft. putt downhill with a -6 inch elevation, I would subtract 5/6 off of 20 and set my marker to 14/15. Downhill calculations are also a little bit of feel. The steeper the downhill putt, the more I take off. For me, anything above 6 or so and I will take the full distance off (maybe even more).
Putting: I choose to putt in different views based on the distance of my putts. I do this because I have certain markers in each view that lets me know how far back to pull the club for a specific distance. I set my views up at 4 (behind, slightly elevated behind, more elevated behind, and directly overhead) (I think this is right). Anyway, I only use the first three.
My back foot on my golfer is always my marker in each view. For anything 5 ft. and in, I use the first view. For anything 6-12 ft., I use the second view, and anything above 12 I use the third view. Usually, I have found that pulling back to the back foot usually equals about 10-12ft. of distance in each view.
If you are having issues with putting and feel, I would try to use what I do. Some folks putt on feel alone and excel, not me. Try different things to see what works best.
Spend your practice time putting, it will pay off with lower scores. You will be surprised to see the expectation to make from 20-30 ft. get higher.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2015 11:25:31 GMT -5
Week 10 Round 1 – 67 Round 2 – 65 Round 3 – 69 Round 4 – 68 Like I said, I'm pretty sure this is as good as I'm going to get having been playing since August and unable to nail putting down to any kind of science. My putting is pretty much mostly luck. I'll make 20 and 25 footers and miss 5 footers. Sometimes I guess right but most times I don't. I try to judge, based on the speed of the lines going across the green, how far right or left of the pin to aim. There just seems to be no kind of "formula". I come close (most times within 3 to 6 inches) but miss way more than I make. Anyway, I'm beat. Played more golf today than I can remember playing in 30 years since the old DOS pixel days. Time to take a break. Based on your last tourney, it seems as though you have gotten better. Putting is by far and away the #1 key to good scores in this game.
I am not sure how you set your marker, how you calculate the elevations/distance, or how you conduct your putting stroke, but I will offer you how I do it and maybe it will help (or maybe not).
Calculations are easy, for uphill putts, take the elevation, add half, and then add 2. Then add that to your distance and this is where you would put your marker). For downhill take the elevation and subtract 1/2. Then subtract that from your total distance and that is where you set your marker. (Hopefully that makes sense).
Example: if I had a 20 ft. putt uphill with a +6 inch elevation, I would take 6, add 3 and then add 2 to make it a total of 11. I would then add 11 to 20 and set my marker at 31 feet.
Example: if I had a 20 ft. putt downhill with a -6 inch elevation, I would subtract 5/6 off of 20 and set my marker to 14/15. Downhill calculations are also a little bit of feel. The steeper the downhill putt, the more I take off. For me, anything above 6 or so and I will take the full distance off (maybe even more).
Putting: I choose to putt in different views based on the distance of my putts. I do this because I have certain markers in each view that lets me know how far back to pull the club for a specific distance. I set my views up at 4 (behind, slightly elevated behind, more elevated behind, and directly overhead) (I think this is right). Anyway, I only use the first three.
My back foot on my golfer is always my marker in each view. For anything 5 ft. and in, I use the first view. For anything 6-12 ft., I use the second view, and anything above 12 I use the third view. Usually, I have found that pulling back to the back foot usually equals about 10-12ft. of distance in each view.
If you are having issues with putting and feel, I would try to use what I do. Some folks putt on feel alone and excel, not me. Try different things to see what works best.
Spend your practice time putting, it will pay off with lower scores. You will be surprised to see the expectation to make from 20-30 ft. get higher.
Thanks, but none of that is my problem with putting. My problem is left to right or right to left breaks. I can't figure out how far left or right to start my putt from the pin. I'm getting better (through sheer repetition) but I'm still missing putts that I should be making by 3 to 6 inches up to a foot. Until I can figure out, consistently, how far right or left to putt from the pin, my putting is only going to get so good.
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Post by TimB on Dec 16, 2015 11:30:04 GMT -5
lol
Twice now on the Sunday setup 13;th hole, I club down too much, put it in the water, tee off again, over shoot into rough, 4'th shot and chip in for a single bogey. Did that twice. Glad to salvage just bogey. Was having a good round, eagled 1'st hole with a chip from the rough, then another chip from the rough for another birdie a few holes later. -5 till the 13'th then after a couple more holes, couple more bogeys, then my natural slice gets me BAD on the 18'th. Nothing like rage quitting on the 18'th lol
I did however beat my personal best next try with a -4
It's a fun course (sunday setup) albeit maddening just trying to hone/dial myself in.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2015 11:35:58 GMT -5
lol Twice now on the Sunday setup 13;th hole, I club down too much, put it in the water, tee off again, over shoot into rough, 4'th shot and chip in for a single bogey. Did that twice. Glad to salvage just bogey. Was having a good round, eagled 1'st hole with a chip from the rough, then another chip from the rough for another birdie a few holes later. -5 till the 13'th then after a couple more holes, couple more bogeys, then my natural slice gets me BAD on the 18'th. Nothing like rage quitting on the 18'th lol I did however beat my personal best next try with a -4 It's a fun course (sunday setup) albeit maddening just trying to hone/dial myself in. I wouldn't say the course is maddening but when you land your approach shot at the very front of the green and it still rolls all the way to the back and into the rough (at least 40 yards) it's frustrating. It's like it's impossible to make a good shot unless you club up a few and pray the wind doesn't take the loft into the next county. And yet, I can't stop playing this thing. LOL.
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Post by mikenym84 on Dec 16, 2015 18:27:20 GMT -5
First go on Sunday pins +4. Lovely course and should be a challenge for ccers. I know it will for me for sure. I was doing ok on the front, only 3 back from Euronacho but the back ate me up good. Almost had a double sandy save on 16 but you have to putt to finish haha. We have two weeks to practice so who knows what'll happen. Tough but good stuff!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2015 18:44:21 GMT -5
Was unfortunate enough to get a practice round on Sunday in 15 mph winds. Forget about battling the firm greens. That's the least of my worries. Two in the drink and I rage quit on 13. If I get conditions like these when this goes live I'm definitely withdrawing.
One shot (hand to God) I landed in the rough in front of the fairway. The ball then proceeded to roll onto the fairway, onto the green, past the pin and all the way to the back into the rough. I'd say it was a good 75 yards total roll after hitting the rough.
I am slowly beginning to hate this course with a passion.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2015 20:00:25 GMT -5
Two things.
1) Momma didn't raise no quitter.
2) Practice makes better.
I decided to tackle Sunday one more time and was again greeted by 15 mph winds. I said fine. I rolled up my sleeves and was determined to not let this SOB course defeat me.
Suddenly things started to come together. There were times I showed flashes of brilliance. I held very few greens but my flops out of the rough were picturesque, holing one out of the rough for birdie. The back 9 was rough but after going 3 under on the front manage to hang on and finish 1 under for the round. First time I was able to break par on the Sunday setup and did it in 15 mph winds.
I'm starting to get a better feel for the putting on the greens. Referring to the spreadsheet for the winds helped a lot too. I wasn't taking off enough yardage on head winds. Now I'm calculating much better.
In some cases, the wind can actually be your friend as I have found head winds hold the ball up longer and make it land softer on these firm greens.
I also figured that on some par 5s it's better to take a shorter shot off the tee or off your 2nd shot and leave yourself with a shorter 3rd shot making it easier to land closer to the pin instead of going for the green in 2 and ending up in the rough.
Naturally, I won't play like this on every course but for courses like these where the greens are firm, you want your approach shot to be as short as possible.
I'm learning and I'm getting there. If I can shoot under par under those miserable conditions I might have a chance to get through this without being demoted to Z class.
In the meantime, I am currently something like 46th out of 88 players in the current tournament so it looks like I'll be spared a demotion strike this week.
Baby steps.
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Post by pablo on Dec 17, 2015 1:39:37 GMT -5
That's how it goes. Frustrating? for sure, but that's the way to advance
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Post by ohpebbles on Dec 17, 2015 6:19:47 GMT -5
I've put in a bit of practice on this course. I love it. I just want to go out and play another round the second I finish. Up until now I've played aggressively and gone for greens in two on the par 5s, but I think the right approach is laying up. Especially with the sunday pins..
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Post by ABU_Bear on Dec 17, 2015 9:30:25 GMT -5
I've played your practice Tournament 2 times now Tim.....-8 the first time through....-21 the 2nd time through. Should have been -25 or -26...I had it to 4 under in my final round before I started spraying it.
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Post by TimB on Dec 17, 2015 9:47:38 GMT -5
I can't remember my best on there. -21 looks very nice though, don't think I come close to that. Just hit -5 on Sunday, and can't believe I did, no bogies, I just speed golf'ed it. Maybe thats how I need to play this course, rush through it. I just am not into it today. Getting a cold and just have no ambition for this game today lol..but the idiot I am I'll go in for more punishment after I get some cough medicine in me, watch for a +17 lol I've played your practice Tournament 2 times now Tim.....-8 the first time through....-21 the 2nd time through. Should have been -25 or -26...I had it to 4 under in my final round before I started spraying it.
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