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Post by Doyley on Aug 13, 2015 13:19:57 GMT -5
Once Tim gets the Inactive List up and running we'll have filters on the money lists and fedex points so that it's much easier to see where you stand.
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Post by Brighttail on Aug 13, 2015 17:04:54 GMT -5
So basically players are not allowed to play both Fed Ex and Race To Dubai events? In your case Ron. You might start with The Barclays ... stay inside the Top 30 and your good to go for the TOUR Championship by Coca-Cola. If you're outside the Top 30 after The BMW Championship, you are still good to go for DP World Tour Championship, Dubai; because: - you are winner (Major) - you've played 12+ events on the European Tour - $2.4M should be sufficient to make the top 60 Can't play both finales though. Exactly. What is the point? Considering the fact that there was probably maybe a under a dozen folks that would have qualified to play both, it seems silly for them to not allow it. Sure I understand putting them on the same weekend, but honestly I don't think for one tourney it is a big deal to say you can play both if you truly did qualify. In the end, I'll play the Fed ex, but I will really feel sorry for anyone that spent so much time on the Euro tour thinking they could play in both, ending up losing the Fed Ex (by going on a tear but losing out by like 75 points that they COULD have had if they played the PGA). I fully understand why Doyley has done this to get the seasons to end... I've never been a fan of the rules changing at the last second and people getting hurt by it. The solution is very simple too.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2015 17:25:41 GMT -5
Well I posted a suggestion that all money earned on both tours could count for this year only to appease those that played both tours under false pretenses but it fell on deaf ears.
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Post by Doyley on Aug 13, 2015 17:49:11 GMT -5
I don't think for one tourney it is a big deal to say you can play both if you truly did qualify. Not possible with coding in place
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Post by Doyley on Aug 13, 2015 17:50:13 GMT -5
Well I posted a suggestion that all money earned on both tours could count for this year only to appease those that played both tours under false pretenses but it fell on deaf ears. Purse sizes are too different - it would just create another issue of imbalance depending on how many PGA events you played.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2015 18:13:13 GMT -5
Ah I see understandable. All those that stayed on Euro would be unfairly surpassed by the guys that made the crossover. Fair point.
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Post by Brighttail on Aug 13, 2015 18:15:54 GMT -5
You can still just let the dozen or so that qualified to play both tournies for 3 weeks. Those people have played by all the rules set forth, they fought hard and in the end grinded it out and qualified. If you are worried about those people 'disenfranchising' another player, then expand the field, we aren't talking many players here and i'm sure everyone involved would be all for playing two tournies a week. Bottom line you are penalizing and alienating some of the best players on the tour. (I'm talking blue/brionne and even you Doyley). No coding necessary It is fair to those that qualified and next season you come up with a better solution. As of right now only 4 non Euro players are in the top 40 with 12 plays, not even Doyley qualifies yet.
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Post by daddyjules on Aug 13, 2015 18:39:08 GMT -5
You can still just let the dozen or so that qualified to play both tournies for 3 weeks. Those people have played by all the rules set forth, they fought hard and in the end grinded it out and qualified. If you are worried about those people 'disenfranchising' another player, then expand the field, we aren't talking many players here and i'm sure everyone involved would be all for playing two tournies a week. Bottom line you are penalizing and alienating some of the best players on the tour. (I'm talking blue/brionne and even you Doyley). No coding necessary It is fair to those that qualified and next season you come up with a better solution. As of right now only 4 non Euro players are in the top 40 with 12 plays, not even Doyley qualifies yet. I agree with this. I earnt the chance to play in both as did a few others. Its not realistic being in 2 countries at the same time but the dates changing isnt realistic either, so point is let us play in both series finales pretty please.
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Post by Doyley on Aug 13, 2015 19:08:16 GMT -5
You can still just let the dozen or so that qualified to play both tournies for 3 weeks. Those people have played by all the rules set forth, they fought hard and in the end grinded it out and qualified. If you are worried about those people 'disenfranchising' another player, then expand the field, we aren't talking many players here and i'm sure everyone involved would be all for playing two tournies a week. Bottom line you are penalizing and alienating some of the best players on the tour. (I'm talking blue/brionne and even you Doyley). No coding necessary It is fair to those that qualified and next season you come up with a better solution. As of right now only 4 non Euro players are in the top 40 with 12 plays, not even Doyley qualifies yet. I agree with this. I earnt the chance to play in both as did a few others. Its not realistic being in 2 countries at the same time but the dates changing isnt realistic either, so point is let us play in both series finales pretty please. ...but the coding doesn't allow it - I'll let Tim have final say but if you can't register for both events how are you going to play both? You can play in both playoffs as long as you qualify and you aren't overlapping weeks - but I know you guys know this and it's not an acceptable answer - but it's currently the only way. If you ask Tim to fix the code and he says yes then I don't mind bending - but knowing how busy he is and how complicated the code is to make things run the way they do - don't hold your breath.
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Post by rod81simo on Aug 13, 2015 19:15:08 GMT -5
You can still just let the dozen or so that qualified to play both tournies for 3 weeks. Those people have played by all the rules set forth, they fought hard and in the end grinded it out and qualified. If you are worried about those people 'disenfranchising' another player, then expand the field, we aren't talking many players here and i'm sure everyone involved would be all for playing two tournies a week. Bottom line you are penalizing and alienating some of the best players on the tour. (I'm talking blue/brionne and even you Doyley). No coding necessary It is fair to those that qualified and next season you come up with a better solution. As of right now only 4 non Euro players are in the top 40 with 12 plays, not even Doyley qualifies yet. I agree with this. I earnt the chance to play in both as did a few others. Its not realistic being in 2 countries at the same time but the dates changing isnt realistic either, so point is let us play in both series finales pretty please. You forgot to add the sugar on top part. That really works hey. Try it again
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Post by Tim on Aug 13, 2015 20:02:09 GMT -5
Putting this to bed. I'm not going to take the time to code extra eligibility filters to allow this. Scott has posted what we are going to do. Matter is closed. Thanks. No need to post on it further.
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Post by shoey101 on Aug 13, 2015 20:04:04 GMT -5
I think the new rules are good. It will let the players that can't beat the top guys get a little more money and finish higher in the playoff that they played all year to get in. The top players already won enough tourneys and earned enough money. Let some others get a chance
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Post by Brighttail on Aug 13, 2015 20:37:01 GMT -5
My apologies, while I knew you couldn't register for 2, I didn't know that it would be that much of a hassle to add players manually. Don't want to give Tim more work as he is a volunteer and not a paid person for this site. I really thought it was a matter of adding a player manually.
Sorry.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2015 12:46:18 GMT -5
Gonzo got in playing with SPONSER INVITES.
1 of the worst decision tgctours admin made was having unlimited crossovers which only benifits the best players who want to play everything.
Even back in Jan. some of the top players were asking for Ryder Cup & The Presidents Cup and the World Cup of Golf at the end of the season so they could play that aswell.
1000+ members its not all about the elite 50 ( which some think it is ) !!! Now their asking for the SEVE trophy now !!! ( I want to play everything ) If you're from Europe and you want to play then please sign up for the Seve Trophy as the WGR #694 wants to play too. Its only for a bit of fun as there is no scheduled tournament that week.
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Post by acidflashback on Aug 16, 2015 17:44:41 GMT -5
From the OP:
Race to Dubai •To play you must have a European Tour card or have won a European Tour event, Major or WGC event in Season 1
Does this mean that hacks like me who has played nearly every Euro tournie gets to play??
I suspect not I'm currently 188 on mney list
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