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Post by mcbogga on Aug 12, 2015 2:40:44 GMT -5
Its done to get more "big moments" and cinderella stories for the media. It works. Agree it's a joke and a 10MUSD lottery - but hey - it's good TV.
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Post by silap on Aug 12, 2015 3:06:34 GMT -5
Let's be honest Race to Dubai is much better. Fed Ex Cup is a joke, as long as you sneak into the top 125 you can just get hot for 4 tournaments (maybe even less) and win the cup ala Billy Horschel. Makes the season long events redundant in the grand scheme of things. No offence to TGCTours, more my beef with the real life PGA tour.
Not sure if the Race to Dubai is better; take Louis Oosthuizen for example. He's played 8 events so far: - 3 Majors - 3 WGC's - 1 Invitational (Nedbank Golf Challenge: € 50.000 guaranteed if you show up and play 4 rounds) - 1 regular tournament
So add to that; 1 more major (PGA), 1 more WGC (HSBC), 1 or 2 playoff tournaments and Mr. Oosthuizen is good to go for the DP World Tour Championship Finale. He mixed ones this year with 'Average Joe the Golfer' and he's in the finale for sure. Louis currently is the #3 in the Race to Dubai rankings.
Both tours cherish the great players in the world, not sure if there's anything wrong with that.
Quadrupling the FedEx points in the final series basically gives anyone who makes the final 125 a chance to do something special. Even if you just made it in.
I think there's nothing wrong with struggling all year, hanging in there and finally in the end make it into the next season; maybe again through Q-school. If you do that, not give up etc. .. you're a winner in my eyes.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2015 3:08:09 GMT -5
Yeah the playoffs if you take it as a 4 tournament event is not too bad. As a season long event that they talk about all season during other events? No. It's not a season long event, it's a 4 tournament event really.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2015 3:11:44 GMT -5
Louis has had a great season, he doesn't need to play in the smaller events because he has performed so well in the bigger events. He deserves to be up there. Like when Rory didn't play the first 3 events of race to Dubai last year, he earnt the right to pick and choose through fantastic play in the summer.
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Post by theduke21 on Aug 12, 2015 3:31:13 GMT -5
Let's be honest Race to Dubai is much better. Fed Ex Cup is a joke, as long as you sneak into the top 125 you can just get hot for 4 tournaments (maybe even less) and win the cup ala Billy Horschel. Makes the season long events redundant in the grand scheme of things. No offence to TGCTours, more my beef with the real life PGA tour. That mimics playoffs in many sports though if you think about it. NBA you only have to be one of the best 16 teams out of 30, and you can then get hot and win 4 series and you're the champ. NFL is one of the best 12 teams and you only have to get hot and win 4 games and you're the champ. I think it's a nice setup and almost every sport is going to something like this. Even NASCAR, which used to be a bore because a driver would have the thing won with 10 races left, now has a playoff format where people come back. People would much rather watch the final event knowing 10 different guys can win it than knowing Spieth has it won with 3 tournaments left. Does it truly determine the champion, not all the time, but it does make for more interest and excitement.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2015 3:58:37 GMT -5
Sometimes you're going to have a more dominate winner, nothing wrong with that. Had no problems with Rory dominating Race to Dubai last year, it'll just make it much more exciting when it is close and close for the right reasons. A win at the USPGA for a european winner other than Rory this week and then we have an exciting finale in the Race to Dubai.
A win for a US PGA player other than Spieth, let's say Dustin Johnson, and then we have a thrilling last few events with DJ trying to gun Spieth down. Oh wait, no we don't, because John Huh snuck in at 123rd, won 2 playoff events and is now ranked number 1 and can win the fed ex cup with a 5th placed finish at the Tour Championship if other results to his way. What the hell?
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Post by silap on Aug 12, 2015 4:04:14 GMT -5
Sometimes you're going to have a more dominate winner, nothing wrong with that. Had no problems with Rory dominating Race to Dubai last year, it'll just make it much more exciting when it is close and close for the right reasons. A win at the USPGA for a european winner other than Rory this week and then we have an exciting finale in the Race to Dubai. A win for a US PGA player other than Spieth, let's say Dustin Johnson, and then we have a thrilling last few events with DJ trying to gun Spieth down. Oh wait, no we don't, because John Huh snuck in at 123rd, won 2 playoff events and is now ranked number 1 and can win the fed ex cup with a 5th placed finish at the Tour Championship. What the hell? Hehe .. put some money on Huh now; he'll make you rich
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2015 4:14:04 GMT -5
Haha yeah should do it. Come on Huh.
The way I see it Billy Horschel's fantastic late season run should have made him finish about 5th, not 1st, as he had a poor season until then. Rory should have been a pretty much dead cert but the likes of Jimmy Walker (fantastic season), Bubba (Masters win), Kaymer (Players/US Open), Kuchar/Furyk/Spieth/Reed (great reg season) would have had a chance of gunning him down and winning it if they did what Horschel did.
i suppose if you look at it from a British point of view, the Fed Ex Cup is like the FA Cup. A nice little competition within itself but if the Premier League were to be settled with the top 16 going into a knockout stage after the league stage I would have fancied Leicester City's chances to become Premier League champions last season with their terrific end of season form. Not good at determining a champion at all (and I'm a leicester fan).
Ah well, it what it is. A 4 tournament lottery. Unpredictable for all the wrong reasons.
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Post by blackaces13 on Aug 12, 2015 5:39:48 GMT -5
It's actually a pretty big advantage to come in near the lead in points in the FedEx, and a huge disadvantage to come in towards the bottom.
If you come in towards the bottom, a middle of the road finish will get you knocked out after the first event, conversely if you come in at or near the lead you can survive a couple of very poor performances and still have a shot. Tiger used to skip one of the early events, and he still won the cup. Only the absolute top regular season performers could even think about doing that.
Granted, if you get exceedingly hot at the right time, you can vault yourself way up the leaderboard and wind up winning or with a big finish after a mediocre year, but this is the case in every major sport I can think of. This is what year end playoffs are supposed to accomplish. It's by design.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2015 6:27:20 GMT -5
Even Billy Horschel ending up at 69th could have afforded to miss the first event as he got cut anyway and still ended up winning. Haha. What a joke.
But anyways, taken out of the 'season-long' fight context I guess it's a good little 4 tournament battle and as a 4 tournament battle Billy Boy deserved to win.
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Post by blackaces13 on Aug 12, 2015 6:52:10 GMT -5
Even Billy Horschel ending up at 69th could have afforded to miss the first event as he got cut anyway and still ended up winning. Haha. What a joke. I think this just reinforces my point. 69th is solidly middle of the pack, well inside the top 100 needed to advance. The world doesn't get flipped upside down once the playoffs start. Therefore even a guy in 69th place can withstand a poor first event. Which means that the overwhelming majority of guys getting the boot actually finished the regular season at the bottom (101-125). This is as it should be and highlights the importance of the regular season.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2015 7:04:48 GMT -5
Fair enough. It's a good 3 tournament battle then. Be mediocre all year round and then an amazing 3 tournaments later you're champion. It's not a season long battle as the PGA tour like to make out. Like I said, it's ok entertainment taken out of the 'season-long' battle argument. A season-long battle it is not.
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Post by AFCTUJacko on Aug 12, 2015 7:10:03 GMT -5
Fair enough. It's a good 3 tournament battle then. Be mediocre all year round and then an amazing 3 tournaments later you're champion. It's not a season long battle as the PGA tour like to make out. Like I said, it's ok entertainment taken out of the 'season-long' battle argument. A season-long battle it is not. Agreed. The guy who is 99th after the regular season winning the whole thing after 2 good weeks is only marginally less ridiculous than the guy in 124th doing it.
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Post by silap on Aug 12, 2015 7:31:57 GMT -5
Current FedEx Cup standings:
- (001) Daniel Coates 4499.1
- (002) Tyler Harris 4415.7
- (003) Steve Sloan 3185.5
- (004) Chris Gilbert 2991.2
- (005) Scott Doyley 2745.1
- (099) Jimmy Sheridan 316.8
- (124) Mark Foley 188.8
In our TGCT-universe it 'll be even harder to achieve such a miracle (I think)
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Post by mikesch75 on Aug 12, 2015 11:14:47 GMT -5
DP World Tour Championship (R2D Final) is listed to be played in W38 now....Any explanation?? I hope u plan not to swap it from November to September...I am on vacation till 09/26.
I hope i am wrong, but i have a bad feeling that an announcement in the next days will tell me that i have played a season for nothing.
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