Kodiak_OS
Weekend Golfer
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TGCT Name: Dan Turner
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Post by Kodiak_OS on Aug 10, 2015 21:03:32 GMT -5
If you've played enough events (something around 12 events including majors and WGC events) and are in a position to qualify for both then you should be able to play in both. Originally qualification for the Race to Dubai was going to be based heavily on World Rankings which, in my opinion anyway, would have been unfair as you'd have people that had never/rarely played on the Euro Tour playing in front of those that had played the Euro Tour all year. I'd be ok with this but I'm ok with whatever they decide since it's all part of the growing pains of the first year. Then for Majors and WGC events, try to mimic the real qualifications as much as possible starting next year. Some spots will still have to be filled by other means since there is only 1 year of results to use and there is no Asian, Latin American, Challenge Tour, etc.
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Post by Brighttail on Aug 10, 2015 21:26:45 GMT -5
If you've played enough events (something around 12 events including majors and WGC events) and are in a position to qualify for both then you should be able to play in both. Originally qualification for the Race to Dubai was going to be based heavily on World Rankings which, in my opinion anyway, would have been unfair as you'd have people that had never/rarely played on the Euro Tour playing in front of those that had played the Euro Tour all year. I'd be ok with this but I'm ok with whatever they decide since it's all part of the growing pains of the first year. Then for Majors and WGC events, try to mimic the real qualifications as much as possible starting next year. Some spots will still have to be filled by other means since there is only 1 year of results to use and there is no Asian, Latin American, Challenge Tour, etc. I'm in agreement with this. For the first year the admin wanted to try and mimic real tournament invitations as closely as possible. Once the year is over and they have solid information for each event, number of participants and who did get in and who didn't get in, they can make adjustments in the following year. I view year one as a work in progress and thank all those involved, all volunteers for their hard work and effort.
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Post by mcbogga on Aug 11, 2015 2:16:24 GMT -5
The tours also will stabilize around the hard core user base that will play this game into next year and beyond. Should see a major contraction in the user base. M
Don't know if the very low turn outs in the euro tour lately is a sign of people dropping off.
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Post by mcbogga on Aug 11, 2015 2:50:05 GMT -5
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Post by silap on Aug 11, 2015 4:21:05 GMT -5
How Gonzo got inThe more I read into this subject the more complicated it gets First of all, full members of any tour are and should be protected. I realize that now. I think it would be a nice gesture of TGC Tours to give out "Special Temporary Membership Cards" and members are given the choice to accept them or not. If an owner of such a card meets certain criteria (Top XXX of the PGA money list like Gonzo did??), he will receive a "Full Membership Card" for the following season. (So still not eligble for the current FedEx final series, unless that player does win a tournament) Remember, if a player at one point does have a "Dual Tour Card", the player will still have to meet all the specific criteria per tour to keep his cards. Basically doing so by playing half the tournaments a full member gets. Hopefully, the above makes any sense If it's too hard or complicated to implement please inform the community in time. At this time I'm reconsidering my original choice for playing the European Tour. So I'm wondering what would be the fastest way to earn a PGA Tour card for season 2 if temporary membership cards are out of the question. Thanks for the reply..
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Post by firstblitzer on Aug 11, 2015 5:23:14 GMT -5
1 of the worst decision tgctours admin made was having unlimited crossovers .
agreed
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Post by silap on Aug 11, 2015 6:19:29 GMT -5
1 of the worst decision tgctours admin made was having unlimited crossovers .
agreed Not sure if I agree .. crossing over is a choice. Obviously the goal for me is/was being able to get into the fun stuff. Looking back at original idea (max. 10 crossovers was it?)... I used 7, not counting majors, wgc's and invitationals.
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Post by drlowdon on Aug 11, 2015 6:50:19 GMT -5
What you don't want is all the same players getting into the biggest tournaments on both the USPGA and European PGA Tours. You want the Fed Ex cup to mostly be those that have played on the US Tour all season and the Race to Dubai being mostly those that have played on the Euro Tour all season with perhaps 4 or 5 of the very best players being good enough to qualify for both.
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Post by Doyley on Aug 11, 2015 6:57:25 GMT -5
1 of the worst decision tgctours admin made was having unlimited crossovers .
agreed Of all the decisions we've made this is the worst? If so then I can live with that!
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Post by Crazycanuck1985 on Aug 11, 2015 10:04:01 GMT -5
People must have known that the more time they spent playing on the PGA tour, the less of a chance they would have in making into the Race to Dubai unless they were REALLY good. It's like playing in a baseball season, forfeiting a bunch of your games but still expecting to make the playoffs. Crossing over was a choice for people.
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Post by edi_vedder on Aug 11, 2015 19:20:45 GMT -5
Gonzo got in playing with SPONSER INVITES.
1 of the worst decision tgctours admin made was having unlimited crossovers which only benifits the best players who want to play everything.
Even back in Jan. some of the top players were asking for Ryder Cup & The Presidents Cup at the end of the season so they could play thar aswell.
1000+ members its not all about the elite 50 !!! As mentioned before, I'd love to see limited crossovers coming back next season! So don't get me wrong on my statement below. But saying the TGCT-people only care about the elite 50 is pretty dickish! Of course the site is and will always be built around those guys that participate frequently/the most. Anything else just wouldn't make sense, and this site would be condemned to death if they wouldn't do so. But I'd say that they still provide quiet a fantastic experience to all people on the Tours here, so you might wanna think again about your statement. It's pretty stupid in my honest opinion.
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Post by Brighttail on Aug 11, 2015 20:09:55 GMT -5
As a note, if we only allowed 10 cross overs, then anyone who did win on the Euro tour still wouldn't have qualified for the final event where you need 12.
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Post by Pubknight on Aug 11, 2015 20:25:54 GMT -5
WGC events and majors count as events on both tours I believe.
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Post by firstblitzer on Aug 12, 2015 2:19:49 GMT -5
The effect of this new rule, as far as I can determine, is the following: 16 "Euro's" are affected. After qualifying school, as a "Euro" I was invited to go play The Hyundai Tournament of Champions. The T-9 finish kickstarted my PGA campaign. Not sure if the FedEx points system was 'live' from the start; but I'm pretty sure I got them a.s.a.p. From that moment on, called it naive if you like, I thought I had chance of making the Final Four on "the other tour". The T-3 at The Players confirmed this and from that moment on I tried to stay within the Top 70. And hopefully make the Top 30 after The BMW Championship. Together with keeping an eye on the Top 60 of the Race to Dubai this pretty much sums up the goals I set myself, trying to be the TGCT journeyman golfer I like myself to be. And today, 8 months in, I found out I can't. That's a bit harsh don't you think? I'm all for rules and regulations and understand the growing pains TGC Tours is going through, but still .. why should it affect me and others the way it does now and at this stage. Maybe I'm not the best example; "Eurmarican" Andrew Johnson played the PGA Tour 13 times (versus 9 on the European Tour) Oh well, allright. I said what I wanted to say and will follow this thread closely; hoping TGC Tours will reconsider. FYI: I only highlighted Tim's name because I thought it was a funny coincidence his name popped up. No pun intended at all. I'm still very much in love with The Golf Club Game and TGC Tours. Dissappointing, I guess I will give PGA events a miss for the rest of the season, given that they are now a pointless exercise for me.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2015 2:28:24 GMT -5
Let's be honest Race to Dubai is much better. Fed Ex Cup is a joke, as long as you sneak into the top 125 you can just get hot for 4 tournaments (maybe even less) and win the cup ala Billy Horschel. Makes the season long events redundant in the grand scheme of things.
No offence to TGCTours, more my beef with the real life PGA tour.
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