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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2017 17:59:46 GMT -5
I've been seeing a lot of threads from folks who are entering the designer software for the first time to try their hand at golf course design, which is a fantastic thing for our community as more and more people get good at using the program and provide us with great courses to use in society events and TGCT tournaments. There are a lot of really good tutorials on YouTube from accomplished designers, so there are certainly resources out there if people look for them, but I wondered if anybody who's new to the designer would be interested in a more "interactive" tutorial than just staring at YouTube.
I'm likely to start a "Beginner's Basics" tutorial series on my Twitch channel for anyone interested, but I wanted to get a feel for whether or not this is something the newer designers even want. If you are thinking about doing your first design, or you've done one or two (or more) designs and you'd like to get some help or ask questions, let me know if Twitch "live" tutorials would benefit you.
Looking forward to your thoughts!
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Post by cathalos1991 on Dec 29, 2017 18:08:51 GMT -5
I've been seeing a lot of threads from folks who are entering the designer software for the first time to try their hand at golf course design, which is a fantastic thing for our community as more and more people get good at using the program and provide us with great courses to use in society events and TGCT tournaments. There are a lot of really good tutorials on YouTube from accomplished designers, so there are certainly resources out there if people look for them, but I wondered if anybody who's new to the designer would be interested in a more "interactive" tutorial than just staring at YouTube. I'm likely to start a "Beginner's Basics" tutorial series on my Twitch channel for anyone interested, but I wanted to get a feel for whether or not this is something the newer designers even want. If you are thinking about doing your first design, or you've done one or two (or more) designs and you'd like to get some help or ask questions, let me know if Twitch "live" tutorials would benefit you. Looking forward to your thoughts! Great idea!! Could be good for all.levels, handy to learn stuff from other designers
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Post by rob4590 on Dec 30, 2017 3:31:19 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2017 9:04:27 GMT -5
Yea, that’s a really good tutorial series, I’ve watched all of those as well. You’re right, it’s not really about re-doing what Scampi has already done, but just to offer another style to some things. His videos were in TGC1, so there are some changes and new techniques that might be helpful. I’m also hoping to have people chatting on Twitch to make it interactive, rather than a straight film session. We’ll see, maybe there’s no need, but even just last night I picked up two tips from Energ1ser and jacobkessler on my Twitch stream when I was designing my own course, so it’s cool when people are sharing ideas.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2017 18:20:46 GMT -5
Watched some of your design vids on twitch earlier, even though I'm very much in the 'ain't nobody got time fo dat' camp when it comes to designing courses myself - same way I enjoy watching cookery shows even though I hardly ever cook for myself lol Very enlightening and entertaining to watch, and the whole thing had a strong Bob Ross feel (I think at one point you said "kinda gives you a chance to play God, and if you don't like that new piece of ground, well you can just get rid of it") which is hilarious given the trophy in your sig Also it's given me even more respect for designers, the way you think through all the options and pitfall zones from a player's perspective and balancing challenge with fairness. I assumed that would be in the back of a designer's mind while making an attractive design, but it seems that actually takes centre stage in the planning process. Fantastic stuff, I'm about halfway through your 29th Dec vid, looking forward to watching more!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2017 19:47:02 GMT -5
Thanks for taking a look! Sorry about all of the "chatter" that happens in the background with people who are on the Twitch chat when I'm live, but hopefully it doesn't distract too much from the design talk. I'll probably be on again tonight working on hole 7 and 8. I'm glad there's value in there!
If I did a tutorial series, it would be a lot more organized (I hope), but these streams are fun because it's just a window into my design process, with no filters, so you see me "thinking out loud." Haha
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Post by GW_Hope on Jan 18, 2018 11:53:50 GMT -5
I started messing around in the designer. I want to recreate a local course I grew up playing. I am glad I found these videos. Big help because I was stuggling with the tools. I may have to tweak some of the holes as far as length but I think it will convert into a decent course to play here. I think I will have some fun creating it, already found some topography to work from. Thanks again!
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Post by jacobkessler on Jan 18, 2018 13:45:53 GMT -5
I started messing around in the designer. I want to recreate a local course I grew up playing. I am glad I found these videos. Big help because I was stuggling with the tools. I may have to tweak some of the holes as far as length but I think it will convert into a decent course to play here. I think I will have some fun creating it, already found some topography to work from. Thanks again! I’ve been working on a google doc on how RCRs work... want me to message you the link?
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Post by GW_Hope on Jan 18, 2018 14:22:53 GMT -5
I started messing around in the designer. I want to recreate a local course I grew up playing. I am glad I found these videos. Big help because I was stuggling with the tools. I may have to tweak some of the holes as far as length but I think it will convert into a decent course to play here. I think I will have some fun creating it, already found some topography to work from. Thanks again! I’ve been working on a google doc on how RCRs work... want me to message you the link? Yes, I would be very interested. Thanks
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2018 10:58:36 GMT -5
Okay, after thinking this through, I have a plan for my designer tutorial series moving forward.
As many people have brought up, rightfully so, there are phenomenal tutorials that already exist on YouTube from accomplished designers like Antonio Scarpacci, Andre Quenneville, Seth Campion, Taste, Griff, and others. In my opinion, if you have the time to watch all of those, you definitely should, because we all do things a bit differently and you’ll pick up tips and tricks from these great designers no matter which ones you watch. They’re all very, very good!
So why would my series be helpful and why would you watch? The first reason is because, like those guys, I may do things differently and there may be techniques you find beneficial. But the main reason is because I am going to schedule these tutorials on Twitch so that they are live and interactive!
Anybody who is a new designer or is thinking about designing a course for the first time can jump on to watch, ask questions, and get involved in the chat in real time!
I’ll be starting a new thread shortly called “VctryLnSprts Designer Tutorials for Beginners (Live!)” with a schedule of episodes. Hope you’ll consider jumping on if it interests you.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2018 11:43:07 GMT -5
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Post by Giraffe72 on Jan 21, 2018 8:27:34 GMT -5
Watched the first 20 minutes earlier, looks great. I hope to be revisiting
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Post by Giraffe72 on Jan 24, 2018 13:14:40 GMT -5
Had my first ever serious delve in to the designer earlier with your tutorial playing on the laptop. I've got an idea for what I want my course to do and have created my world, which is fairly mountainous in places. One thing I have struggled with is flattening out areas - seems I flatten one bit and another bit pops up! A bit of time on how to mould my landscape would be appreciated before I start to lay my holes down. I've struggled with scale too, I managed to flatten one little area around where I want my first tee to be and made what I thought would be a nice amount of room for my clubhouse, turns out I could have put about 20 clubhouses there! Perhaps I'll start with the clubhouse next time.....
Looking forward to episode 2!
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Post by ErixonStone on Jan 24, 2018 13:26:26 GMT -5
I've struggled with scale too, I managed to flatten one little area around where I want my first tee to be and made what I thought would be a nice amount of room for my clubhouse, turns out I could have put about 20 clubhouses there! In the Sculpt menu, there is a measuring tool. It's the most useful tool in the entire designer. Get comfortable with it. Of all the streams and tutorials I've seen, I got the most out of scampi's use of it.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2018 19:26:38 GMT -5
Giraffe72 Thanks for checking out episode 1, I hope there were some tips in there that were helpful in getting you started. Patrick is right, the measurement tool within the sculpting menu is the most helpful thing to use to determine scale on your course. He's jumping ahead of me a little bit with Scampi's tutorial, but in episode 2 I will be talking about laying out a hole like this, using the measurement tool for scale. As it relates to sculpting the land, it's a bit of a fine art and a trial and error thing. It's always annoying to hear this, but you will get so much better at recognizing how the land will "react" to certain things you do to it the more time you spend in the software. Also, don't worry too much about making the land perfect before you start laying your surfaces down. Keep my concepts of "macro sculpting" and "micro sculpting" in mind when planning a hole. You will do FAR more sculpting on the project after laying your surfaces than you do in the planning stage prior to putting them in. This Saturday is a big episode to watch in terms of really getting started making a hole from tee to green, so hopefully you can catch that one.
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