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Post by jivesinator on Dec 12, 2016 17:40:53 GMT -5
Canuck and Fickett in the same group as me? Nope nope nope nope nope.
In all seriousness, that is a very good looking course, can't wait to see it and play it (unless you get in this, in which case your course sucks)
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Post by rhino4life on Dec 12, 2016 18:51:33 GMT -5
Hell....I didn't think he worked unless he's paid to stream...lol
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Post by mayday_golf83 on Dec 12, 2016 18:55:42 GMT -5
Canuck and Fickett in the same group as me? Nope nope nope nope nope. In all seriousness, that is a very good looking course, can't wait to see it and play it (unless you get in this, in which case your course sucks) I'll go along w/ whatever @griff decides on that one, but I'd be inclined to be against it for the purposes of your first sentence. And that's zero disrespect to Crazy in any way, shape or form. Let's be honest here: If we were ranking the field of designers 1-32, Errol would have probably been somewhere around 30. As for Crazy: argue the actual ranking if you like, but it's plenty safe to say he's a super vet among super vets. That would really throw off the balance of power in that Group A and not sure how fair it is to the rest of the members in that group. I'd be more comfortable if someone with limited contest experience or a low number of courses under his belt took that spot. That way, it's kind of a one-for-one swap. By the same token, if there's a super vet that can't finish, by all means, I think Crazy is a wonderful replacement and his WIP looks awesome. It would be an awesome addition to the contest at that point. In this case though, just doesn't feel right given the way the pools were constructed, at least IMO. I don't have horse in this fight, because I wouldn't meet anyone out of Group A unless I somehow managed to make it through to the finals, and that's getting WAY ahead of myself at this point. Anywho, that's just my $0.02 worth and nothing more. This is why Griff makes the big bucks and deserves all the credit for getting these contests put together!
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Post by Crazycanuck1985 on Dec 12, 2016 19:37:39 GMT -5
No offence taken. If you guys feel that it would cause an imbalance, I don't mind at all.
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Post by Moe Slorkman on Dec 13, 2016 4:42:09 GMT -5
No offence taken. If you guys feel that it would cause an imbalance, I don't mind at all. To be the best you've got to beat the best!!!!! Unless someone drops out of my group and you replace them in that case Go back to your Sudoku puzzles Andre! #seriouslythough #letscanuckupthiscomp
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Post by pyates on Dec 13, 2016 5:53:30 GMT -5
Seriously, if this had been suggested 2 or 3 days ago I would have jumped at letting/begging Canuck to take my spot. But I've been battling on in the free time I've managed to find the last few days on an existing course so I have around 15 part complete holes vs the 2 very incomplete holes I had previously. I'm certain it won't be my best course, but it should get finished now hopefully so I'll see out my place now How about Canuck becomes so sort of final boss level? Beat all the rest and then you have to face his beast of a course in a grand final
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Post by Errol1967 on Dec 13, 2016 8:47:15 GMT -5
I have no issue with adding a replacement it's rather shameful to admittedly not finish purposely because of another game and still have weeks left it's pitiful... Well, its not "just another game", there is more into it, but I wont have to tell all would I. I told Griff in a personal message whats going on. I dont have to explain all. Here in Holland we say...You make from a mosquitto an elephant...thats exactly what some are doing...blowing everything up. Sometimes its looks like if the world comes to an end, cause somebody left a tour, tournament or designer cup, despite his problems on his back and other things, wich hurt like hell sometimes, but hey...nevermind. I wish you all anyway a very good contest and I will complete my course, but on my own terms. When there is in the future another contest and I feel bit better, I will defo sticko it and complete it. All the best to you all.
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Post by Errol1967 on Dec 13, 2016 8:48:31 GMT -5
Well, if you need someone, throw me in. Will give me some motivation to finish my Swiss course. I have the next two weeks off after this week so should be plenty of time to rip through a course. I saw it on twitch...I realy like it and hope you win the contest...good luck.
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Post by Errol1967 on Dec 13, 2016 8:51:46 GMT -5
Canuck and Fickett in the same group as me? Nope nope nope nope nope. In all seriousness, that is a very good looking course, can't wait to see it and play it (unless you get in this, in which case your course sucks) I'll go along w/ whatever @griff decides on that one, but I'd be inclined to be against it for the purposes of your first sentence. And that's zero disrespect to Crazy in any way, shape or form. Let's be honest here: If we were ranking the field of designers 1-32, Errol would have probably been somewhere around 30. As for Crazy: argue the actual ranking if you like, but it's plenty safe to say he's a super vet among super vets. That would really throw off the balance of power in that Group A and not sure how fair it is to the rest of the members in that group. I'd be more comfortable if someone with limited contest experience or a low number of courses under his belt took that spot. That way, it's kind of a one-for-one swap. By the same token, if there's a super vet that can't finish, by all means, I think Crazy is a wonderful replacement and his WIP looks awesome. It would be an awesome addition to the contest at that point. In this case though, just doesn't feel right given the way the pools were constructed, at least IMO. I don't have horse in this fight, because I wouldn't meet anyone out of Group A unless I somehow managed to make it through to the finals, and that's getting WAY ahead of myself at this point. Anywho, that's just my $0.02 worth and nothing more. This is why Griff makes the big bucks and deserves all the credit for getting these contests put together! Me around 30? Dont think so...most of you think that, but I will be defo an outsider 😉
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Post by Errol1967 on Dec 13, 2016 9:04:03 GMT -5
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Post by B.Smooth13 on Dec 13, 2016 9:16:21 GMT -5
I'll go ahead and claim 32. The higher the score, the more points...so I win right? On a somewhat more serious note, as awesome as it would be to have Andre in the competition given his course design pedigree, I do agree that it would be unfair to those in the group (and others who may face him down the line). This decision will in no way impact me, but that's my $.02. Edit: Just realized Crazycanuck1985 has a Robin Sparkles avatar....I might be changing my mind....
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Post by titaneddie on Dec 13, 2016 9:39:33 GMT -5
I think Griff kinda saw this coming as soon as he opened that door to find a replacement. People for the most part seemed okay with it until Canuck threw his hat in. I totally understand that it goes against how the contest was set-up, and it's not my group but if it was I really wouldn't care.
The contest was set-up to try and get the last great batch of tgc 1 courses out there. So in the spirit of that I'd be totally okay with Andre getting in. But yes it does throw of the group stage seeding as was planned...so I see both sides but I'd be okay with it. However if Andre were to win he'd still get the watch...but hopefully in a 1000 pieces!
And Errol after dropping out of a contest it's probably not the best time to "wow" us with your wip pics.
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Post by rhino4life on Dec 13, 2016 9:42:32 GMT -5
Good start Errol.... Best of luck when it's finished.
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Post by rhino4life on Dec 13, 2016 9:49:30 GMT -5
I think any direction you go there is bound to be some disagreement. Whether you throw off the bracket with Andre, reseed it with Andre, or leave it at 31. All the more reason people who drop out create problems for organizers and participants in some cases. I think the path of least conflict is getting a willing, lesser known designer or someone who has a course to two under the belt at best which scampii or someone else mentioned b4.
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Post by scampi00 on Dec 13, 2016 9:59:32 GMT -5
An alternative method would be to judge the three courses left over from that group in a different way. On one hand, if we add canuck or another HIGHLY touted designer it would be unfair, but if we add a designer who isnt as highly regarded or an unknown, then aren't we really just chalking that person up as an L? Serving them up as cannon fodder so to speak?
IMO it might be easiest to count all of the matchups against Errol as wins, and then a committee of judges needs to privately decide the fate of the remaining 3 courses from that bracket. Ideally, there will be two clear cut favorites from that group. Theoretically couldn't Errol just autogen a course, slap a name on it and that's his submission. Then we proceed as planned?
Hopefully everyone else finishes their course to prevent this going forward. I know it's rough to put out something decent but the time frame was generous.
Seth out.
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