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Post by Terry Grayson on Jun 3, 2015 11:18:57 GMT -5
New to the game: Found tips very informative... First time I ever played this game shot like 92.... Played two rounds found these tips.. First round after using the methods described shot +6, next round after that -7 getting better every time.... Appreciative of the efforts of the charts... Thank you sir
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robdalky
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TGCT Name: Rob Dahlquist
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Post by robdalky on Jun 3, 2015 23:58:16 GMT -5
Can anyone explain to me what the difference is between a 4 iron lofted two red bars to 170 and a stock 6 iron hit 170? Is there a reason you would choose one over the other?
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Post by Doyley on Jun 4, 2015 0:10:37 GMT -5
I find the lofted 4i comes in at a higher angle and can stop a bit quicker than a 6i.
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Post by dh-nufc on Jun 4, 2015 4:05:29 GMT -5
I find the lofted 4i comes in at a higher angle and can stop a bit quicker than a 6i. That needs to be fixed in the game.
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Post by NCFCRulz on Jun 4, 2015 4:07:45 GMT -5
I find the lofted 4i comes in at a higher angle and can stop a bit quicker than a 6i. That needs to be fixed in the game. Why? It's correct to real life?
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Post by dh-nufc on Jun 4, 2015 4:24:33 GMT -5
That needs to be fixed in the game. Why? It's correct to real life? I'm no expert here but I've not heard players going up 2 clubs to add that much loft. One club maybe but not 2.
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Post by blackaces13 on Jun 4, 2015 5:14:18 GMT -5
That needs to be fixed in the game. Why? It's correct to real life? No. It's not. No one takes 2 more clubs to get the ball to stop quicker. Isn't this obvious? This is a big flaw in the game.
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Post by bogeyman on Jun 4, 2015 6:04:11 GMT -5
Have you never watched Adam Scott play? He smashes it so high in the air that it practically comes down vertical.
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Post by blackaces13 on Jun 4, 2015 6:22:15 GMT -5
Not to go the same distance as a shorter club.
There has never been a pro who said, "well, I can get there with a full 9-iron, but the green is firm and I need to land it as soft as possible...give me the 6-iron."
A full 9 that lands 150 stops shorter than a 6 or 7 that lands 150 under similar conditions, and it is not even close. There is no such thing as "uplofting" a 6 iron so that it flies 9-iron distance but with more backspin.
This is golf 101, surprised there is any debate.
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Post by mcbogga on Jun 4, 2015 6:45:03 GMT -5
Why? It's correct to real life? No. It's not. No one takes 2 more clubs to get the ball to stop quicker. Isn't this obvious? This is a big flaw in the game. Yep - the shotshaper is a great concept but "overdone". To make it realistic they should add right bias to heavy lofting up and left bias to heavy down-loft. Max should be aroudn two grids, not four as today.
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Post by blackaces13 on Jun 4, 2015 7:36:39 GMT -5
I thought the "choke down" dynamic in TW worked well, and was realistic enough.
I also would like to see a game where the fade takes away distance by virtue of the ball going higher and landing softer, whereas the draw feature adds distance through a converse effect. This would also add difficulty to playing "dial a distance" by having to correctly judge the proper amount of left/right movement relative to the static aiming reticule.
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Post by Brighttail on Jun 4, 2015 10:06:08 GMT -5
Real golf physics would never have a pro loft up 2 grids worth of loft to stop a ball short or land it soft. A pro may place the ball in their stance forward for deloft or back a bit for loft on a club to dial in the yardage of that club, but they would rarely go up a couple clubs and play an ultra loft.
In the game, landing 'softer' with a higher club does seem to work if played perfectly. Lofting a club makes it harder to hit but not so hard to make it an impossible shot unless you are using a wood. I would suggest that lofting up one grid is about as realistic as it gets for the higher arc will and should cause the ball to land softer and roll less.
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Post by NCFCRulz on Jun 4, 2015 10:57:28 GMT -5
Guess I was wrong then! Lol! Fair game
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Post by theduke21 on Jun 4, 2015 13:14:00 GMT -5
Yeah, I gotta agree that this is a weird concept I don't like about the game and it seems that all the best players are using it. I had never considered it until I saw how much it helps with ultra firm courses, but it's so unrealistic. In fact, in real life I use less club if I want it to stop quicker because the harder I swing, the higher it goes. There's no way I could go down to a 3 iron and hit it 150 yards and it stop quicker than me hitting a 9 iron. Not even close. I think irons should have no more than 1 grid of lower/higher loft and they shouldn't be as dramatic on the lower loft. Nobody can hit a 9 iron 145% or whatever of its usual yardage by closing the face. There's still some minor things like that on this game that could be much more realistic and create less tricks for people to be better at.
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Post by edi_vedder on Jun 4, 2015 18:27:12 GMT -5
This is golf 101, surprised there is any debate. There isn't any debate because it makes the game easier actually. As simple as that...
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