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Post by Bobgod09 on Jun 7, 2015 9:10:55 GMT -5
I just put my driving on Hardest setting. I am terrible. I hit 3 fairways. Back to normal. Never been the guy that needs long drives. A hole here and there it definitely can help. I prefer to hit approach shots and putt. Will con2to play around with it but wow, its sensitive.
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Post by NCFCRulz on Jun 7, 2015 10:48:11 GMT -5
I just put my driving on Hardest setting. I am terrible. I hit 3 fairways. Back to normal. Never been the guy that needs long drives. A hole here and there it definitely can help. I prefer to hit approach shots and putt. Will con2to play around with it but wow, its sensitive. Don't change it off normal. You gain an extra 18 yards which lets be honest is going to cost you more shots through missed fairways than it will gain you |
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Post by Morgan-esque on Jun 11, 2015 7:17:19 GMT -5
I have a question that I hope someone will be nice enough to give me a tip on.
What shot would you hit to the green when the distance to the pin is 10-40 yards and the green is sloped (sometimes heavily) towards you?
I'm always reluctant to hit the LW flop shot as this will come straight back off the green. Same if you put loft on the LW pitch.
This can be extended to cases where I'm say, 10-15 yards from the pin but off the green and it's highly elevated. Too much elevation to use the 7yd chip shot as it just bumps the fringe of the green and stops.
In my head, I think I should be trying to hit the LW pitch shot between 35-75% but the margin of success is very small as it takes little back lift to get to 100%. I cannot do the shot of bringing the club back and slowly taking it forward, although maybe it just requires plenty of practice. If this is the shot the elite use then I'll get practising it.
Thanks in advance.
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Post by blackaces13 on Jun 11, 2015 8:55:26 GMT -5
Short flops into soft greens sloping towards you are some of the hardest shots in the game because, quite frankly, the backspin on those shots is just absurdly over exaggerated.
If it's short enough, say less than 20, you can usually chip with with a PW or less. If you're landing on a ridge this can be very difficult though. For the longer shots, say 25-40, I will sooner pitch the LW than flop it. That shot might spin back some, but it usually won't suck violently off the green like a flop will. Flopping with the SW will spin less than the LW also and it only carries 5 yards further.
Fwiw, if I don't need any uploft on the LW I will usually use it regardless of green conditions although I'm sure there are spots where even this will get you in trouble and pull you off greens.
Short flops landing on significant upslope just suck. No easy answer IMO.
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Post by Brighttail on Jun 11, 2015 11:50:20 GMT -5
WHen you are lets say 22 yards.. on a severely sloped green, sometimes you want to pitch the ball. The other option is to take a full LW on flop (30yards) and take a 3/4 swing. It will roll back some but not nearly as much if you loft up on it. Pitching also gives you more control. Learn it.  |
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Post by Morgan-esque on Jun 12, 2015 2:35:12 GMT -5
I'm glad that there's no easy answer. I'll get practising these soft pitches, thanks.
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Post by Bobgod09 on Jun 12, 2015 10:48:09 GMT -5
Definitely a tricky shot distance. If this distance really gives u trouble avoid it. Now I know you cant always, but say u have 250 left to the pin on a par 5. I personally love my PW. So If I couldnt make it 4 sure I lay up to 100-120. Another thing I like to do is try to hit the ball to 30 - 40 yds and use thr pw flop. Very little spin in most cases. On SEVERE SLOPES expect severe results. Sometimes thinking of the shot you want 2 shots ahead. Dont put urself in your trouble zone. If you play a little slower and a little smarter you will be amazed at how many times you can avoid that distance. An alternative thought from a demented mind. Lol Hope it helps.
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Post by Morgan-esque on Jun 13, 2015 4:25:44 GMT -5
Definitely a tricky shot distance. If this distance really gives u trouble avoid it. Now I know you cant always, but say u have 250 left to the pin on a par 5. I personally love my PW. So If I couldnt make it 4 sure I lay up to 100-120. Another thing I like to do is try to hit the ball to 30 - 40 yds and use thr pw flop. Very little spin in most cases. On SEVERE SLOPES expect severe results. Sometimes thinking of the shot you want 2 shots ahead. Dont put urself in your trouble zone. If you play a little slower and a little smarter you will be amazed at how many times you can avoid that distance. An alternative thought from a demented mind. Lol Hope it helps. I did this technique last night and it's definitely the way forward. Cheers! |
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Post by Bobgod09 on Jun 13, 2015 10:29:58 GMT -5
Glad it worked for you. You should still practice those shots but "TRY" to avoid shots your not comfortable with. Then when your just messing about hit to your trouble distances and work on them. Good luck going forward
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Post by Pubknight on Jun 15, 2015 13:15:21 GMT -5
That needs to be fixed in the game. Why? It's correct to real life? No human being on the planet is hitting a 4 iron and a 6 iron from the same spot in a fairway and getting the 4 iron to stop quicker on the green than the 6 iron does, with comparable ball flights (i.e. not a 'normal' shot vs a bump and run, etc) |
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Post by NCFCRulz on Jun 15, 2015 13:59:13 GMT -5
Why? It's correct to real life? No human being on the planet is hitting a 4 iron and a 6 iron from the same spot in a fairway and getting the 4 iron to stop quicker on the green than the 6 iron does, with comparable ball flights (i.e. not a 'normal' shot vs a bump and run, etc) continue reading...  |
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Post by Doyley on Jun 15, 2015 14:56:04 GMT -5
Long overdue but I've updated the numbers to be more accurate. Initially I had just taken the original carry distance and multiplied by the percentage given by the gridline in-game but as a few pointed out - those numbers could be better. So here are slightly better numbers. This is done via the water driving range method so should be as accurate as you can get with what we're given. Some clubs have adjusted by as many as 4 yards so if you had the old version printed, you may want to reprint.
Enjoy!
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Post by Pubknight on Jun 15, 2015 16:12:16 GMT -5
No human being on the planet is hitting a 4 iron and a 6 iron from the same spot in a fairway and getting the 4 iron to stop quicker on the green than the 6 iron does, with comparable ball flights (i.e. not a 'normal' shot vs a bump and run, etc) continue reading... Fair enough! |
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Post by dh-nufc on Jun 16, 2015 9:32:37 GMT -5
Has anyone got any tips on reading breaks? I almost always borrow too much or not enough, I don't see any pattern yet.
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Post by Brighttail on Jun 16, 2015 10:20:06 GMT -5
Has anyone got any tips on reading breaks? I almost always borrow too much or not enough, I don't see any pattern yet. While I'm sure there is some mathematical formula out there people use, for the most part I have been hearing from the elite it is just putting by feeling. The feeling you get after playing hundreds of rounds and making thousands of putts. Basically there are two schools: 1. Putt hole speed which means you have to allow for more break. The Pros is if you miss you will be closer to the hole. The Con is if it is a major breaking putt, it becomes more difficult to judge that speed exactly and it is a harder putt many times. 2. More than hole speed, this means you can take out some of the break and often times ram it into the cup by putting through the break. The Pro is that you take as much as 1/2 the break out of it, especially useful for shorter putts. The Con is if you miss, you will be past the hole and will have a much longer putt coming back. |
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