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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2014 7:35:53 GMT -5
This is so nice of you to share this information Doyley, really public spirited of you. It is good to see that the number one player is prepared to help others out. Personally I just store what I have learned in my head, if I were to start using charts I would lose the feel for the game I have right now. I do use mathematics all the time but the need for feel is so important in this game that you might get bogged down with over analyzing every shot. For instance, if I have a downhill putt that is say 9 inches downhill, I would normally putt the marker back to about 7 inches before the hole (as you have recommended), but if I look beyond the hole and the slope is continuing and getting steeper away from the hole, I would move the marker back further still so the putt doesn't get away from me too much if I miss, I have been known to putt the ball off the green when not taking into account these little nuances. Little things like that come into play on a variety of shots, where maths isn't the only solution. So I guess that experience and feel are just as important as mathematics? agree with you there! such an awesome thing to do  |
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Post by Oblong on Dec 20, 2014 7:43:26 GMT -5
Very interesting, like someone else mentioned I have been doing "Tiger" math on my shots so I look forward to seeing how "Doyley" math will improve my game. Thank you so much for sharing.
Have you by chance worked any charts on chipping distance with and without loft? I imagine you would need separate ones for green speeds unless there is a standard multplier. My chipping is so awful I would take a short swing flop over it as a choice and that really makes it feel more like a game than golf.
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Post by Doyley on Dec 20, 2014 7:54:55 GMT -5
Very interesting, like someone else mentioned I have been doing "Tiger" math on my shots so I look forward to seeing how "Doyley" math will improve my game. Thank you so much for sharing. Have you by chance worked any charts on chipping distance with and without loft? I imagine you would need separate ones for green speeds unless there is a standard multplier. My chipping is so awful I would take a short swing flop over it as a choice and that really makes it feel more like a game than golf. I usually only use a LW or SW for chipping and a max lofted LW flop for anything 15-20 yards. I'll know after my first chip how far a chipped LW goes. Usually between 7-9 yards. |
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Post by disturbed932 on Dec 20, 2014 17:03:19 GMT -5
Great tips man. The one I find still inconsistent is the essential one stroke penalty when you plug the fairway bunkers off the tee. It's usually ALWAYS 40-60% and a 3 iron chip out that goes 100 yards.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2014 8:40:25 GMT -5
Very interesting, like someone else mentioned I have been doing "Tiger" math on my shots so I look forward to seeing how "Doyley" math will improve my game. Thank you so much for sharing. Have you by chance worked any charts on chipping distance with and without loft? I imagine you would need separate ones for green speeds unless there is a standard multplier. My chipping is so awful I would take a short swing flop over it as a choice and that really makes it feel more like a game than golf. I usually only use a LW or SW for chipping and a max lofted LW flop for anything 15-20 yards. I'll know after my first chip how far a chipped LW goes. Usually between 7-9 yards. Thats exactly the same thing I do with chipping. The only time I'll use a PW to chip is if its 12 yards and the elevation is up 1 or 2 feet. I max the LW flop too, the only time I'm wary is if theres a slope in front of the pin then if you get too much spin you can end up off the green or the ball back at your feet, did that on Crawford in Q school and took a 6 on the 4th hole I think it was. |
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Post by Dennis on Dec 21, 2014 12:27:50 GMT -5
This gets them on the right path. It is by no means an exact science and I'm always tweaking things to get more accurate in my own game. While I've tried to simplify it as much as possible I'm sure that most of the top tier players take what I've got here and fine tune it to the nth degree. Plus you still have to be able to putt  Wait...putt?!? What?!?! I thought the ball when straight to the hole with these tips....well Damn..... lol Tell me about it. Can't putt worth poop. Thank a bunch Doyley. This will be a big help. But like someone said. you still have to execute the shot. So I don't think the PGA guys have to worry for a while. Great gesture! |
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Post by KLRSKIR on Dec 22, 2014 10:54:56 GMT -5
Thanks a bunch for this. This mixed with my unorthodox math in this game may or may not help me. Definitely going to play around with this over the holidays. Thanks again!  |
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Post by PSU-Cappy on Dec 22, 2014 21:44:06 GMT -5
Hi guys, I mentioned earlier that I was going to put out a sheet with some tips and tricks and calculations I do to get around the course. Been so busy with other things that I haven't had time to do it up as well as I wanted. In time I'll likely add videos and rejig the numbers to match the videos so you can read it and then watch it which will hopefully help you out - I'll talk my thought process out in the videos so you can see what's going through my head prior to each shot. That is still in the pipeline, so for now I thought I would release my notes. My hope with this is that there are some nuggets of information that could help you lower your score and make the tours more competitive. There may be other methods I don't use, so feel free to discuss below as well. TGCT - Tips & Tricks
Note: There are four tabs at the bottom of the spreadsheet which you can browse through different shot types as well as a loft chart. To read the loft chart - there are 5 columns, the standard club carry and then columns 1 through 4, each which represent the next grid line on the loft adjustment grid in-game (4 being max loft). There is nothing on that loft chart you couldn't do within the game with a little time and math - so it's just easier to have it done and with you. In time you'll likely only reference it once or twice a round as you get used to yardages you're comfortable with. Any questions please post below and I'll do my best to answer. Thanks! Saves me from playing with my calculator app on my phone up! |
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Post by Doyley on Jan 4, 2015 1:49:23 GMT -5
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Post by gunnysrs on Jan 19, 2015 20:10:43 GMT -5
Hi i found this thread early today and downlaoded the charts then printed them off, i then was reading them now it refers to the clicking method, now i am unsure what this means as i use a P880 saitek controller and have no clicking , so i am finiding hard to understand, more so for the putting which is my weak point and majority of my game is ok, can anyone help me in this please.
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Post by clayg3 on Jan 19, 2015 20:25:46 GMT -5
I looked at doyleys tips and tricks and in scenario A-B
he uses wind in the face or behind you what about the
cross wind . I had a shot once it was 115y 15ft up so
I read doyleys tips and tricks it had cross wind and I
came up with a 92yd shot not even close.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2015 20:28:15 GMT -5
I looked at doyleys tips and tricks and in scenario A-B he uses wind in the face or behind you what about the cross wind . I had a shot once it was 115y 15ft up so I read doyleys tips and tricks it had cross wind and I came up with a 92yd shot not even close. if it's 15ft uphill then you add 5 yards to that 115y. |
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Post by Doyley on Jan 19, 2015 20:37:19 GMT -5
Hi i found this thread early today and downlaoded the charts then printed them off, i then was reading them now it refers to the clicking method, now i am unsure what this means as i use a P880 saitek controller and have no clicking , so i am finiding hard to understand, more so for the putting which is my weak point and majority of my game is ok, can anyone help me in this please. a click = the time it takes for your to move the analog stick from neutral to far right (or left) and back to neutral at a normal/comfortable pace (not slow, not super fast). When doing this it will look like your golfer is stuttering across the screen while you are setting your aim. |
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Post by clayg3 on Jan 19, 2015 20:44:48 GMT -5
ill never understand this elevation thing.
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Post by SmilingGoats on Jan 19, 2015 20:52:22 GMT -5
Take the elevation, divide by three. If it is an uphill lie, add the result to the yardage. If it is a downhill lie, subtract the result from the yardage.
So in your example you had 115 yards and it was 15 yards up. 15 divided by three is 5. Add 5 to the original 115 and you have 120 yards. You should have played it 120 yards.
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