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Post by jarednich on Sept 16, 2016 14:45:25 GMT -5
IRL it's nearly every event though. Putting aside the majors (3 of which are PGA) and the WGC events (again, 3 of 4 are PGA), with the exception of the British Masters, every single week hass a better purse on PGA. IRL, the players have a choice, and that's why nearly all of the top ones choose to play most of their rounds on PGA. how does stenson and mcllroy end up with about 12 euro events and about 14 pga events if most of there rounds are played on pga then
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Post by warrior009 on Sept 16, 2016 14:47:12 GMT -5
European born players with a PGA card are required to play a minimum of 15 events on the PGA tour if they invoke the "home circuit" policy. McIlroy, Stenson, Kaymer and those guys all do this, Kaymer famously this year screwed up the requirements for that and lost his PGA card. So there are requirements to follow just like the 12 events needed to qualify for RTB but the 15 for PGA is less known.
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Post by warrior009 on Sept 16, 2016 14:50:48 GMT -5
Which goes back to my idea of doing this so that European guys can still play Euro events, but need to make PGA a priority in their scheduling. This would make the Euro tour a secondary tour technically because the top guys would need to hold PGA cards and meet a requirement in order to play FedEx Playoffs but they have the ability to play limited events in Euro because they please to.
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Post by ijs1543 on Sept 16, 2016 14:55:29 GMT -5
how does stenson and mcllroy end up with about 12 euro events and about 14 pga events if most of there rounds are played on pga then
Because 12 is less than 14? Nice
I wonder if the real reason they play more on pga is because it made all the other euro players cry they couldn't compete
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Post by jarednich on Sept 16, 2016 14:58:04 GMT -5
Because 12 is less than 14? Nice
I wonder if the real reason they play more on pga is because it made all the other euro players cry they couldn't compete
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Post by lessangster on Sept 16, 2016 14:58:21 GMT -5
Why don't you get ride of the cuts so that us lesser lights can play all four rounds anyway You can play all four rounds, no one is stopping you. You're just cut I never said anyone stopped me but once people are cut they generally don't finish the four rounds which is no good if your trying to compete against a rival who's scores are close to yours. They don't show up on the leaderboard. |
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Post by pablo on Sept 16, 2016 15:01:34 GMT -5
European born players with a PGA card are required to play a minimum of 15 events on the PGA tour if they invoke the "home circuit" policy. McIlroy, Stenson, Kaymer and those guys all do this, Kaymer famously this year screwed up the requirements for that and lost his PGA card. So there are requirements to follow just like the 12 events needed to qualify for RTB but the 15 for PGA is less known. But if they want to play the Ryder Cup, they need a full membership in the European Tour. That's why they play 12 tourneys a year (I think that's the minimum to retain the card) |
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Post by ijs1543 on Sept 16, 2016 15:02:41 GMT -5
Nice
I wonder if the real reason they play more on pga is because it made all the other euro players cry they couldn't compete
I can't believe that you top guys wouldn't want to battle each other every single week. it would make majors and wgcs pointless, and its nice crossing over to test yourself against the best on pga.
also we do battle every week it just happens to be on the euro tour 
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Post by Macs Power on Sept 16, 2016 15:07:06 GMT -5
This thread is going to turn into a bloodbath. BRB I'm buying beer and chips.
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Post by warrior009 on Sept 16, 2016 15:09:33 GMT -5
Yes...McIlroy, Stenson have dual full-time status using the "home circuit" policy. It's only available to European born players probably for Ryder Cup reasons. Kaymer lost his PGA card this year but he still have full Euro status which is why he was eligible for the Ryder Cup. Nothing I'm proposing messes with that because they have the ability to play a certain amount of Euro events (Majors and WGC count) in order to qualify for certain things.
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Post by Brighttail on Sept 16, 2016 15:17:12 GMT -5
I can't believe that you top guys wouldn't want to battle each other every single week. it would make majors and wgcs pointless, and its nice crossing over to test yourself against the best on pga.
also we do battle every week it just happens to be on the euro tour
Until someone has such a lead in tournament dollars it makes the finals moot, then they come over to the PGA full time.  |
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Post by Crazy Croc on Sept 16, 2016 15:27:23 GMT -5
OK, I think i kinda understand the argument now. Having a 'top 70 Elites' tour - no way in hell. Reasons mostly but not limited to:
1. Entitlement
2. Too many pussies out here that wanna have participation badges
3. If you cant beat the best, git gud or stay the @!$# away
4. Finishing well, or heaven forbid, win a tourney where there are not at least 7 of the top 10 competing will leave a hollow, empty feeling.
Imma fine with that, BUT then how come we wanna create a 'top 150- 200 (ish) elites' tour and call it the PGA? Does not make any sense really? Or is it that the top dudes feel better winning, ok , only 1 guy can win at a time, but lets say top 10 finishers feel better about their accomplishment when playing and winning (or finishing top 10, perhaps) in a 150 field as opposed to a 70 field?
While on the point, why have different tours at all then? Why not have one tour, call, sh%$, i dunno, The TGC Tour perhaps and let the best man or woman win? No money, points or even a honourable mention for 2nd place though.
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Post by nocturnal on Sept 16, 2016 15:42:33 GMT -5
I don't care about winning at the top level. For me it's not really obtainable given my time limitations and I just don't think I could ever be that good at this game. I just want to have some sort of level of competition that has meaning. Sure, a bunch of us PGA/Euro lower level players could take demotions down to the Web but what's that going to do to the top Web players, not to mention the mid to lower Web players. They'll be screwed as well.
Just give me tournaments with people of somewhat similar skill level that I can play that offer me a better chance to make cuts and have realistic season long implications such as Majors or playoffs etc. to strive for. Many of us who have risen from lower ranks are in the same boat and some have since threw in the towel because they were in a dead end situation that was no longer fun for them and no foreseeable way out.
I don't care what you call it. I don't care what specific courses are used. I don't care if it mimics RL down to the letter.
I just want to feel engaged again. ATM, whether or not I play my best, play my worst, or don't play at all is irrelevant to anyone but me. I am field filler and nothing more and that's not fun. The thrill of true competition is what is gone and that's what allured me here in the first place.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2016 15:56:30 GMT -5
I can't believe that you top guys wouldn't want to battle each other every single week. it would make majors and wgcs pointless, and its nice crossing over to test yourself against the best on pga.
also we do battle every week it just happens to be on the euro tour
It wouldn't make majors and wgc pointless as the best players that frequent the euro tour should be around the same qualify (dubuisson/williet/grace/pieters/Cabrera-bello) as mid level PGA players (Thomas/koepka/finau/Casey etc). The euro tour will be full of players that want to be a big fish in small pond or players not quite good enough to make the cut on the PGA. The PGA will be full of the elite and players that maybe could compete for wins on euro. |
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Post by Brighttail on Sept 16, 2016 16:01:33 GMT -5
I don't care about winning at the top level. For me it's not really obtainable given my time limitations and I just don't think I could ever be that good at this game. I just want to have some sort of level of competition that has meaning. Sure, a bunch of us PGA/Euro lower level players could take demotions down to the Web but what's that going to do to the top Web players, not to mention the mid to lower Web players. They'll be screwed as well. Just give me tournaments with people of somewhat similar skill level that I can play that offer me a better chance to make cuts and have realistic season long implications such as Majors or playoffs etc. to strive for. Many of us who have risen from lower ranks are in the same boat and some have since threw in the towel because they were in a dead end situation that was no longer fun for them and no foreseeable way out. I don't care what you call it. I don't care what specific courses are used. I don't care if it mimics RL down to the letter. I just want to feel engaged again. ATM, whether or not I play my best, play my worst, or don't play at all is irrelevant to anyone but me. I am field filler and nothing more and that's not fun. The thrill of true competition is what is gone and that's what allured me here in the first place. You aren't alone my fellow "field filler!" |
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