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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2016 13:21:09 GMT -5
If the goal is really to have top players play together more often, maybe TCCT creates its own brand of "WGC" events in the winter months, say once a month one of the events on PGA/EURO becomes a TGC Championship event or something... like the TGCC-OHL invitational or something.
If the goal is to give the bottom players something to play for, maybe just have a secondary event available each week that anyone on EURO/PGA below WGR 50 or something can sign up for. I wonder how many would do that vs play in the actual top level PGA/EURO event each week.
Both of these are good ideas in my book. The only thing I would suggest is increasing the frequency of the TGCC events during the slow winter months (October thru February, I guess). Maybe twice per month or thrice per two months. It'd be interesting to see how they would handle the secondary events with respect to WGR, FedEx and R2D standings, etc. Agree, how about a WGC style event every month, have the top 100, but theres a cut at 50 or 70 just to make it more competitive for the middle of the pack guys? Feel sorry that there's absolutely nothing for you guys to talk about on the podcast this week, such as elite tours or cut back on firm settings for Season 3. |
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Post by jarednich on Sept 16, 2016 13:22:30 GMT -5
Week 5 for example. In real life. Euro Tour: winner got 36 WGR points PGA tour: winner got 54 WGR points They are supposed to be equal but the strength of field is much higher because that's where the money is. That's why TGCT should use WGR points instead of money to entice the players so it's more like real life. No way should a $6m event be the same as a $1.5m. I can't like this more than once. So, X1000 |
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Post by lessangster on Sept 16, 2016 13:26:52 GMT -5
Why don't you get ride of the cuts so that us lesser lights can play all four rounds anyway
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Post by SMIFFYLFC79 on Sept 16, 2016 14:00:09 GMT -5
I don't understand why players are saying euro tour is equal to PGA in real life. It isn't. Loads more money at stake and for example when Shane Lowry got his permanent PGA card the European tour commentators were overjoyed saying he had finally reached the top tier. Im not saying in real life Luke, I am going by what has been said on here, way back when, they said it was equal.  |
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Post by ijs1543 on Sept 16, 2016 14:12:04 GMT -5
I don't understand why players are saying euro tour is equal to PGA in real life. It isn't. Loads more money at stake and for example when Shane Lowry got his permanent PGA card the European tour commentators were overjoyed saying he had finally reached the top tier. his right u remember danny willet running over to pga to get a card after his masters win.......................oh wait he didn't
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Post by hammo24983 on Sept 16, 2016 14:12:47 GMT -5
If you could find a way to get all (or nearly all) the elites in the same tourney about 20 times a year, that would be perfect, IMO. This year it was about 10, I think (4 majors, 4 WGCs, PLAYERS, Olympics), so doubling that number would be great. I think the main problem is scheduling, though. Too many high-quality tourneys are held from late March to mid August, so it'd be preferable if the additional "elite" events were spaced out better. I don't know which ones to pick as additional "elite" events, but I suppose it could be an arbitrary decision on the administrators' part. I don't really care if it's all or some - I'd prefer to leave that up to each individual - but I would like to present certain events as options/opportunities to create stronger fields - which under my current proposal would be the low purse R2D events which won't adversely affect the top end players because they make enough bank to not be affected by missing out on the paltry payouts. I think you've nailed it Doyley. You don't see the top euro players playing the smaller events in real life. They generally opt to come to the states to play the bigger events that have bigger money and bigger WGR points. I personally believe if you want more events with the top players, then a slight adjustment to the WGR is the way to do it |
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Post by ijs1543 on Sept 16, 2016 14:19:29 GMT -5
Week 5 for example. In real life. Euro Tour: winner got 36 WGR points PGA tour: winner got 54 WGR points They are supposed to be equal but the strength of field is much higher because that's where the money is. That's why TGCT should use WGR points instead of money to entice the players so it's more like real life. No way should a $6m event be the same as a $1.5m. I agree but not for every event say 15 events of the euro where 50% wgr then you would probably get a minor field event for them 15 events, I don't like every event on the euro being worth less, but I do think a quite a few more minor events being created by some euros crossing over for big events on the pga wont be a bad thing
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2016 14:22:54 GMT -5
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Post by jarednich on Sept 16, 2016 14:27:06 GMT -5
Week 5 for example. In real life. Euro Tour: winner got 36 WGR points PGA tour: winner got 54 WGR points They are supposed to be equal but the strength of field is much higher because that's where the money is. That's why TGCT should use WGR points instead of money to entice the players so it's more like real life. No way should a $6m event be the same as a $1.5m. I agree but not for every event say 15 events of the euro where 50% wgr then you would probably get a minor field event for them 15 events, I don't like every event on the euro being worth less, but I do think a quite a few more minor events being created by some euros crossing over for big events on the pga wont be a bad thing
IRL it's nearly every event though. Putting aside the majors (3 of which are PGA) and the WGC events (again, 3 of 4 are PGA), with the exception of the British Masters, every single week hass a better purse on PGA. IRL, the players have a choice, and that's why nearly all of the top ones choose to play most of their rounds on PGA. |
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Post by hammo24983 on Sept 16, 2016 14:27:55 GMT -5
Week 5 for example. In real life. Euro Tour: winner got 36 WGR points PGA tour: winner got 54 WGR points They are supposed to be equal but the strength of field is much higher because that's where the money is. That's why TGCT should use WGR points instead of money to entice the players so it's more like real life. No way should a $6m event be the same as a $1.5m. I agree but not for every event say 15 events of the euro where 50% wgr then you would probably get a minor field event for them 15 events, I don't like every event on the euro being worth less, but I do think a quite a few more minor events being created by some euros crossing over for big events on the pga wont be a bad thing
I think the target should be about 15-18 events where it gets the better players all together. I honestly believe it makes it a little more like real life to. I've never seen Rory play in an event worth 1 mill, and as a result the events worth little money don't get the WGR points available. Simply, when the events that are worth stuff all on euro, it's those events that we need to be enticing the better players onto PGA where the money is. The only way we can do this is adjusting the WGR for such events |
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Post by biyombo on Sept 16, 2016 14:29:29 GMT -5
Why don't you get ride of the cuts so that us lesser lights can play all four rounds anyway You can play all four rounds, no one is stopping you. You're just cut |
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Post by ijs1543 on Sept 16, 2016 14:39:12 GMT -5
yeah but I bet he will still play about 12 events on euro that will have nearly as much wgr points as his 14 pga starts did same as mcllroy stenson rose
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Post by ijs1543 on Sept 16, 2016 14:41:17 GMT -5
I agree but not for every event say 15 events of the euro where 50% wgr then you would probably get a minor field event for them 15 events, I don't like every event on the euro being worth less, but I do think a quite a few more minor events being created by some euros crossing over for big events on the pga wont be a bad thing
IRL it's nearly every event though. Putting aside the majors (3 of which are PGA) and the WGC events (again, 3 of 4 are PGA), with the exception of the British Masters, every single week hass a better purse on PGA. IRL, the players have a choice, and that's why nearly all of the top ones choose to play most of their rounds on PGA. how does stenson and mcllroy end up with about 12 euro events and about 14 pga events if most of there rounds are played on pga then
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2016 14:43:13 GMT -5
It would be interesting to see how many top players would still play on the European tour if Ryder cup points didn't lure them in. Paul Casey has conceded his Ryder cup points whilst the likes of Rory play the bare minimum to qualify.
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Post by Airik3333 on Sept 16, 2016 14:44:55 GMT -5
I don't understand why players are saying euro tour is equal to PGA in real life. It isn't. Loads more money at stake and for example when Shane Lowry got his permanent PGA card the European tour commentators were overjoyed saying he had finally reached the top tier. I honestly don't understand it either. Whenever I turn golf on when I watch TV, I never see any Euro tourneys. It's always PGA. It's been like that since I started watching golf back in the 60s. When did Euro become an equal tour? You have to get out of bed before noon.. You can sometimes catch the Euro tour on The Golf channel early in the mornings in the USA.. I actually enjoy watching it sometimes.. They play some neat courses and certain areas are gorgeous.. I would love to play some of their courses.. |
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