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Post by Doyley on Jun 15, 2016 17:47:41 GMT -5
Knowing Anthony and his vision - I highly doubt we'll be able to lock out any difficulty setting in the tournament setup - my guess is that all three difficulties will co-mingle in all TGC2 events.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2016 17:55:19 GMT -5
Knowing Anthony and his vision - I highly doubt we'll be able to lock out any difficulty setting in the tournament setup - my guess is that all three difficulties will co-mingle in all TGC2 events. Which is fine because those who can hit a drive 280 yards straight are going to demolish those who are hitting 240 yards straight, as it should be. Like I said, the better golfers are still going to be the better golfers.
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Post by boomboom on Jun 15, 2016 18:30:28 GMT -5
The hard swing will be great, at first, but it will get patched to appease the fckn sucks.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2016 18:34:30 GMT -5
The hard swing will be great, at first, but it will get patched to appease the fckn sucks. I don't think so Bryan. I think due to the fact that there will be an easy option, the hard swing will stay as it is and players can just use the easier swing if they don't like it. It's one of the reasons we're getting a TGC 2 because of all the complaining about how the swing is too easy. So no, I think players are just going to have to either suck it up and deal or use an easier setting. Otherwise, we've defeated a good part of the purpose of even having a TGC 2.
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Post by edi_vedder on Jun 15, 2016 19:08:39 GMT -5
Keith's post about the (actual) hard swing is scaring the sh%$ out of me. Probably too difficult at its current state, but I really hope the beta phase will sort things out...
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Post by jacquesy123 on Jun 15, 2016 19:28:34 GMT -5
Ok I'm going to way in, I think all three settings should be allowed in all comps,
I'm currently playing off 1.7 in RL and I only hit in on average 250meters 275yards for you Americans. And I'm getting dusted off the tee in most comps, how ever I'm hitting on average 10-12 fairways per round and 14-16 greens because I'm more of a straight hitter, the bombers may hit it 330 yards and have a shorter shot into greens, but with that they can hit it 330 yards into trouble, and make a double bogey, we all know that putting is were you make up your strokes, (stokes gained putting) for you stat guys,
But I also agree throwing darts shouldn't be the norm,
I guess what I'm saying is in your player profile you should be able to select what sort of golfer you are,
For example bomber, were you can hit it 300 yards off the tee but your cone is narrower and you loose touch and feel around the greens because your cone is narrower
Balanced were everything is a little easier than a bomber but your 20 yards shorter
And accuracy were your cone is bigger and you will hit more fairways and greens but you will be shorter, like myself in real life,
Because not everyone on the PGA tour is bubba Watson (bomber)
Jordan spieth balanced
And a David toms accuracy,
At the end of the day course set up will see who is best suited to win the comp just like in real life Dustin Johnson likes courses were he can take driver everywhere, but hates tight thinking man golf course,
It will be up to the TGCtours to select courses that maybe 1 week has an advantage to the bombers, wide open fairways long courses and the week after tight fairways long rough tree lined type, were being long has no advantage,
I hope you guys get what I'm trying to say,
At the end of the day I'm just looking forward to WATER FALLS man
Regards jacquesy
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2016 19:33:10 GMT -5
Ok I'm going to way in, I think all three settings should be allowed in all comps, I'm currently playing off 1.7 in RL and I only hit in on average 250meters 275yards for you Americans. And I'm getting dusted off the tee in most comps, how ever I'm hitting on average 10-12 fairways per round and 14-16 greens because I'm more of a straight hitter, the bombers may hit it 330 yards and have a shorter shot into greens, but with that they can hit it 330 yards into trouble, and make a double bogey, we all know that putting is were you make up your strokes, (stokes gained putting) for you stat guys, But I also agree throwing darts shouldn't be the norm, I guess what I'm saying is in your player profile you should be able to select what sort of golfer you are, For example bomber, were you can hit it 300 yards off the tee but your cone is narrower and you loose touch and feel around the greens because your cone is narrower Balanced were everything is a little easier than a bomber but your 20 yards shorter And accuracy were your cone is bigger and you will hit more fairways and greens but you will be shorter, like myself in real life, Because not everyone on the PGA tour is bubba Watson (bomber) Jordan spieth balanced And a David toms accuracy, At the end of the day course set up will see who is best suited to win the comp just like in real life Dustin Johnson likes courses were he can take driver everywhere, but hates tight thinking man golf course, It will be up to the TGCtours to select courses that maybe 1 week has an advantage to the bombers, wide open fairways long courses and the week after tight fairways long rough tree lined type, were being long has no advantage, I hope you guys get what I'm trying to say, At the end of the day I'm just looking forward to WATER FALLS man Regards jacquesy I get it and I think you said it brilliantly.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2016 19:51:13 GMT -5
I'm not bothered about waterfalls, more the fact that you can have water at different heights instead of at "Sea level"
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Post by jacquesy123 on Jun 15, 2016 19:55:25 GMT -5
I'm not bothered about waterfalls, more the fact that you can have water at different heights instead of at "Sea level" Yes very true will mean creeks and rivers should be more in play and the fact that fantasy course will get all the more crazy bye our best designers can't wait to see what Patric Yates can do
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Post by Doyley on Jun 15, 2016 19:59:19 GMT -5
I'm not bothered about waterfalls, more the fact that you can have water at different heights instead of at "Sea level" This limitation caused me to get out of the course designer (was trying to make my home course) and start up the PGA Tour on a spreadsheet. The rest is history!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2016 20:00:56 GMT -5
I think people may be overthinking the distance a lot anyway. I'm guessing the medium to hard transition won't be any more than 10 yards for a club. So, I personally think all of the pro tours should have the hardest difficulty. It'll make the golf itself way more realistic and penalizing. Anyone that is good enough to be on the pro tours shouldn't be complaining about possible hitting the ball offline because it should be happening way more. I'm thinking the pro tours can use difficult and the rest will be on medium. Bravo. Most people can hit straightish all the time anyway and a few don't go more than a couple of pixels offline so i don't see it being big problem for most Just think how great RCR's will play when using "Hard Swing" and maybe getting 50% FIR instead of the 94% that most players were getting at the US Open this week. Seems like it would be more interesting and fun to me. Wouldn't need to max firm greens either to stop 94% GIR as well.
Wonder how Magnolia will play with the hard swing? Maybe Anthony will stream a round of that Monday
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2016 20:12:00 GMT -5
Anyways, I think I'll be playing using the hard swing just for the challenge even if my WGR drops down to #500 and I get demoted to the CC Tour.
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Post by Brighttail on Jun 15, 2016 20:44:26 GMT -5
Well Keith's post does scare me indeed because as the game currently stands on the PC side, I have been complaining about the lack of any "tempo" for putting and many of the shots. So I really am hoping this is rectified and smoothed out a little better.
I am also hoping we get the ability to "SPIN" the ball with lofted clubs. Pros use this consistently to get to a tucked pin or a pin at the front of the green by lofting up a club slightly more or using a swing that creates more back spin. Of course this is got to be one of the hardest things to code.
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Post by mcbogga on Jun 15, 2016 22:37:28 GMT -5
It's not harder to code than anything else probably - but it would require someone who understands how higher level golf works - which is where HB is lacking.
Interresting to hear that the chip has turned into a pitch.
One thing that would be a nice mechanic would be if the shot shaper would tie into teh tempo so that we'd have to match the timing to the shot we want to hit. Would create extra difficutly shaping shots, while being quite realistic as it just simulates the issues moving away from the "stock" shot.
By the way - picking a "stock shot" would be another easy way to add a lot of variation and interrest to the game. If we have to choose for our golfer if we hit it medium, high, low, fades or draw naturally (pick one of nine boxes). With it's pros and cons.
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Post by Brighttail on Jun 15, 2016 22:42:12 GMT -5
It's not harder to code than anything else probably - but it would require someone who understands how higher level golf works - which is where HB is lacking. Interresting to hear that the chip has turned into a pitch. One thing that would be a nice mechanic would be if the shot shaper would tie into teh tempo so that we'd have to match the timing to the shot we want to hit. Would create extra difficutly shaping shots, while being quite realistic as it just simulates the issues moving away from the "stock" shot. By the way - picking a "stock shot" would be another easy way to add a lot of variation and interrest to the game. If we have to choose for our golfer if we hit it medium, high, low, fades or draw naturally (pick one of nine boxes). With it's pros and cons. Being able to play different types of chips would be nice. Using a LW I can chip something that goes 5 yards in the air and rolls 15 yards or I can flip it up 15 yards and have it stop in 5 (if done properly). Spin and loft is the key. I do like the fact that we will have more 'realistic' options for something 7 yards off the green and 10 yards to the cup instead of a flop shot. Watching the pros on TV, there are simply times that even with a flop shot, there is no way they are getting close to the hole and a 'good' shot is anything within 20 feet. Hopefully we will find ourselves in the same situation. We have been spoiled far too long with the 'get out of jail free' flop shot for too long.
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