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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2015 15:19:51 GMT -5
I've had it happen with ghost balls and without. I've had the game drop me 1,000 yards from the proper green before and I've had to take a 12 just to get to the green and finish the hole. These are glitches in the game itself, so you can't DQ someone for something they have absolutely no control over what is happening. It would be different if you could chose where the computer/console puts your drop area, but that's not an option. We can put in a rule along the lines of "you have to go back to the fringe/rough", etc. but there's no reasonable way we can say someone would be DQ'd from a tournament when there's nothing that can be done about it.
And if someone exploits this to try and win, well, they're a douchecanoe and eventually the community will find out about it, out them and mock them mercilessly. I, personally, would make a post questioning the size of their manhood along with a link to a website where you can buy tweezers.
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Post by misternic on Aug 25, 2015 15:52:28 GMT -5
I've had it happen with ghost balls and without. I've had the game drop me 1,000 yards from the proper green before and I've had to take a 12 just to get to the green and finish the hole. These are glitches in the game itself, so you can't DQ someone for something they have absolutely no control over what is happening. It would be different if you could chose where the computer/console puts your drop area, but that's not an option. We can put in a rule along the lines of "you have to go back to the fringe/rough", etc. but there's no reasonable way we can say someone would be DQ'd from a tournament when there's nothing that can be done about it. And if someone exploits this to try and win, well, they're a douchecanoe and eventually the community will find out about it, out them and mock them mercilessly. I, personally, would make a post questioning the size of their manhood along with a link to a website where you can buy tweezers. douchecanoe? Retroactive DQ makes no sense, so I think noone needs to worry unless as noted they are TRYING to exploit it in some way. It does need to be fixed though and the admins should provide an official answer. |
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Post by edi_vedder on Aug 25, 2015 19:27:27 GMT -5
No matter it is with or without ghost balls, I really hope they are going to fix this bullshit with the September update. I only doubt they actually will...  |
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Post by blackaces13 on Aug 25, 2015 19:28:40 GMT -5
No official stance = drop in best spot available, and expect others to do the same. This place is too competitive to forfeit shots that others won't.
Hitting in the water on purpose is pathetic, but I really doubt anyone is doing that.
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Post by SmilingGoats on Aug 25, 2015 19:35:50 GMT -5
I've never had this happen to me so I can't speak as to what triggers this issue. I did hit in to the water this past tourney twice but both times I got the appropriate drop functionality.
As far as these glitches, there is little we can do to police it and there is no consistency in how it occurs and what options people may have so for now we will just have to hope HB fixes it. It isn't a DQ offense at the moment.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2015 19:43:11 GMT -5
No official stance = drop in best spot available, and expect others to do the same. This place is too competitive to forfeit shots that others won't. Hitting in the water on purpose is pathetic, but I really doubt anyone is doing that. As my grandfather once told me: "The only person's honor you can do something about is your own." So take the drop as given by the game, and don't exploit the exploit. Simple. |
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Post by franz joop on Aug 25, 2015 21:21:45 GMT -5
if you do your homework right you can easily birdie every par 5 without any risk , just check ghosts on course before you play round see who lands closest to pin ..then in tournament just hit in water while making sure you have correct ghost for that hole and you will be placed just behind there ball on green.. Not sure that is true, and we have seen reports above of people getting it ghosts or no ghosts. Is there even an option of puting it elsewhere? Clarification is probably warranted though. yep ,sorry i should have confirmed only on my ps4 , every time you go in water you'll get dropped just behind ghost ball on green , but only if ghost ball is on green...further more to say people aren't exploiting it is wrong , you have the confidence to attack green over water to go for eagle and if you for some reason you miss and go in water you'll still get a birdie putt..... but in saying this only people using ghost can see who would be doing this and other offences , so you can't ban ghost balls... i also prefer to think people wouldnt use it , but as heman1202 said " Is there even another option to drop it somewhere else?" |
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Post by misternic on Aug 25, 2015 22:57:06 GMT -5
No official stance = drop in best spot available, and expect others to do the same. This place is too competitive to forfeit shots that others won't. Hitting in the water on purpose is pathetic, but I really doubt anyone is doing that. As my grandfather once told me: "The only person's honor you can do something about is your own." So take the drop as given by the game, and don't exploit the exploit. Simple. remember you are still taking a penalty stroke. Do you honestly believe you can not hit a green in two shots if you layup or play safe? Water is your best option hit the green? |
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Post by blackaces13 on Aug 26, 2015 5:21:09 GMT -5
I don't see why we can't ban dropping on the green in much the same way pitching/chipping on the green is banned.
If your ghost is seen dropping on the green then you get a DQ, simple. Until that becomes an official rule however, you can't expect universal compliance.
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Post by NCFCRulz on Aug 26, 2015 6:33:53 GMT -5
I don't see why we can't ban dropping on the green in much the same way pitching/chipping on the green is banned. If your ghost is seen dropping on the green then you get a DQ, simple. Until that becomes an official rule however, you can't expect universal compliance. I have had a drop before where.it would ONLY let me drop on the green. Wouldn't come back off it. Also even if it would it wouldn't be fair to force a player to.potentially drop on the rough as no fairway when if it was functioning properly they may have been able to get a fairway drop. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2015 6:38:02 GMT -5
I have never had this happen to me, but if I did, I would purposely miss the putt and make the 2nd one, but that's just my personal play if/when it happens. I wouldn't feel at all right taking advantage of that.
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Post by dh-nufc on Aug 26, 2015 6:42:22 GMT -5
I'm not sure what I would do. I know I would certainly not hit it in the water on purpose.
I've put forward my question for the official HB Studio Stream with Anthony about this as have a couple of others.
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Post by blackaces13 on Aug 26, 2015 7:54:39 GMT -5
We need one of the following:
1) HB fix the game such that dropping on the green does not occur (don't hold your breath)
2) an official rule from TGCT with associated penalty for violating said rule
3) a decision to allow players to drop in the best spot granted by the game
Wishy washy positions that involve no hard and fast rule, but make judgements on what players "should" do get us nowhere.
FWIW on the tour that I play (PGA) there are very few water balls, and personally I would guess I have hit maybe 2 in my 50ish rounds on tour. Comparatively, this affects me minimally. I'm just looking for a fair solution for everyone.
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Post by NCFCRulz on Aug 26, 2015 8:17:25 GMT -5
We need one of the following: 1) HB fix the game such that dropping on the green does not occur (don't hold your breath) 2) an official rule from TGCT with associated penalty for violating said rule 3) a decision to allow players to drop in the best spot granted by the game Wishy washy positions that involve no hard and fast rule, but make judgements on what players "should" do get us nowhere. FWIW on the tour that I play (PGA) there are very few water balls, and personally I would guess I have hit maybe 2 in my 50ish rounds on tour. Comparatively, this affects me minimally. I'm just looking for a fair solution for everyone. tbf its not wishy washy at all. As it stands you can drop it wherever the game allows. That's not wishy washy that's a solid hard stance It can't change to option 2 for what I said above as I have had a drop where it would only let me drop on the green. Then if you start forcing people to miss putts it just becomes an unnecessary farce. Where do they miss it to? 6inches or 6 yards? How can you guarentee everyone has the same ability to miss it to the required standard Leave it as it is imo. It's not great and needs to be fixed by HB but as it stands the best way of dealing with this issue is calling it not an issue at all and by continuing in any manner the game allows If the game allows me to drop it one foot from the flag then I am going to do it as I know all the top players will be doing the same and I am.not going to waste an important shot because of some etiquette that barely anyone will observe on a computer game. The next one it might force me to drop 100 yards out in rough when I could have been on fairway. It's swings and roundabouts. |
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Post by blackaces13 on Aug 26, 2015 8:42:41 GMT -5
I'm completely fine with that. You're saying drop in the best place the game allows. That's black and white. It is my option 3. I was referring to those saying it "shouldn't" be done, or calling some drops honorable, implying that others are less so. Have you not seen these types of replies? Your position seems far from the consensus. Ironically enough, the only one who seems to be in full agreement with you thus far, is me.  |
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