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Post by WhatAboutAmeobi on Apr 4, 2021 17:00:08 GMT -5
Squaw Valley GC, Tahoe - Not Approved. This one is close, and looks to be a step up over the first course. It's just not quite ready for database yet. Still need work in places with the surfacing and sculpting.. and keep green sizes in mind for the shots required into them. The bones and design are nice.. just needs some fine tuning. Respectfully, it's hard to learn from these observations. I know tutorials are not a promised part of the approval process, but, could you give me any specific area that is triggering the surfacing / sculpting comment or hole # that caused the green size comment? I know these reviews are somewhat subjective but this is my 2nd with nearly nothing I can hang my hat on for future work. Feels like we are talking more preference than technical so that makes it tough. I accept what you said, but I'm just not getting it. Hey Ritchie, I played a bit of your course and have some thoughts about why I think it wasn't approved. I will play your whole course on stream on Monday and give you detailed feedback about your course. Would love it if you could stop by - if not, there will be a VOD that you can watch.
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Post by 15eicheltower9 on Apr 4, 2021 19:12:47 GMT -5
ritchieboyroy also don't resubmit courses. Especially under different names than the actual course. I wasted a half hour of my time trying to find the course you were rcr'ing. Thank you for that.
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Post by 15eicheltower9 on Apr 4, 2021 19:49:36 GMT -5
ritchieboyroy also don't resubmit courses. Especially under different names than the actual course. I wasted a half hour of my time trying to find the course you were rcr'ing. Thank you for that. My apologies. Apparently there's 2 designers working on the same course with the same amount of success. Regardless, rcrs marked as such in the database should be named appropriately.
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Post by mctrees02 on Apr 5, 2021 6:32:39 GMT -5
Valle Vista Ranch GC - Not Approved ACES-R-WILD please use the port course feature under your designer page to move the TGC19 course over to 2k21 database.
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Post by mctrees02 on Apr 5, 2021 6:39:16 GMT -5
Castle Heights - Not Approved
I really loved the green complexes here but there are major sculpting and surfacing issues throughout the course. Items of note:
- light rough collar running down fairways but then stopping as the fairway continues and now has a heavy rough collar. Also random strips of light rough around parts of bunkers - many bunkers are running across multiple surfaces (meaning brushes are put down on top of both fairway and rough) - bunker sculpting needs a lot of work - planting doesnt have any consistent theme but rather it has a Noah's Ark feel (2 of everything). On the first two holes, I stopped counting at 25 different trees and bushes on those holes.
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Post by mctrees02 on Apr 5, 2021 9:18:30 GMT -5
Ocean Resort GC (Lidar) - Not Approved
Unfortunately this course is not up to TGCT standards for LiDAR courses. The most notable issues are: - quite a few holes play at a significantly different yardage than the scorecard - while the course doesnt have a lot of elevation change, the holes I checked dont match up with google earth's elevation data - bunkers missing from those seen on satellite views - cart paths missing and/or in the wrong place - trees that are relevant to how a hole plays are missing
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Post by mctrees02 on Apr 5, 2021 15:12:21 GMT -5
Rancho Tejano Hills - Not Approved
This is close to an approval but there are issues with every hole that lead me to a non-approval. Those factors include:
- inconsistent surfacing. Sometimes we have a large band of light rough, other times a small band. - bunker surfacing is all over the place. Within 5 holes, there are bunkers surrounded by fairway, light rough, and heavy rough. - green sizes change from very large to very small and then back to very large within a matter of 4 holes. - blind tee shot on 4 heading towards a downhill fairway running into water
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Post by mctrees02 on Apr 5, 2021 15:29:02 GMT -5
Walukai Ocean Course - Not Approved
This course is really close to an approval but unfortunately the hole designs are the biggest thing leading to the non-approval. Of particular note: - The 2nd hole offers about an 8y wide fairway if you want to hit driver on a 475y par 4. - The 7th hole is a very wobbly, narrow fairway that ends for no reason at 300y before starting again at 320y. - The 10th hole cuts the fairway off at 275y before starting again at 325y. - Many of the greens run off in multiple directions directly into heavy rough.
If you're trying to protect low scores in this game, you're fighting a losing battle because the good players will still make plenty of birdies hitting 3 woods and knockdown drivers off the tee. There are better ways to do protect scoring than "if you hit driver, I'll put you in the heavy rough."
Also, this isn't a reason for the decline, but learn to use sunken bushes and trees for planting rather than planting thousands of grasses. You can see them from much further away and they will look a lot more natural than a field of white grass on a green golf course.
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Post by mattf27 on Apr 7, 2021 19:59:44 GMT -5
Sequoia Creek - not approved Lots of interesting fantasy ideas on this one, just too many playability issues to approve.
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Post by mattf27 on Apr 7, 2021 20:10:22 GMT -5
Stonewall Jackson - not approved So, I think this was supposed to be "Stonewall Jackson Resort" because the in game course called "Stonewall Jackson" is basically nonsense with alligators on the greens and stuff. I don't think the Resort gets approved, though it'd be close. However, that's a huge leap to make just assuming it was supposed to be another course that was submitted, so I just have to reject it on the basis of the 5,500 yard course with 1 pinset and giants lakes in the middle of the greens.
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Post by Q on Apr 7, 2021 20:51:38 GMT -5
Meander Valley, Tasmania - Not Approved
Lots of surfacing issues fairway to green transitions are very messy overuse of default bunker brush shapes awkward sightlines off tees large "dead zones" of zero to no planting sticking out like a sore thumb because of all the nice planting you did elsewhere
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Post by Q on Apr 7, 2021 21:00:12 GMT -5
Thornton manor gc - not approved
overplanting with plants obscuring sightlines large "dead zones" of zero to no planting sticking out like a sore thumb because of all the nice planting you did elsewhere bathtub bunkers and general bunker sculpting issues unintentional blindness (lots of invisible bunkers obscured by awkward elevation changes) grass and planting encroaching on fairways and sometimes on the first cut rough (how do you mow grass under other grass?)
Please capitalise the full name of you course (pet peeve)
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Post by Q on Apr 7, 2021 21:13:46 GMT -5
The King's Club (Championship) - not approved
extremely punitive design style (fairways barely exceeding 10-15 yards wide in areas, extreme shot shaping required off most tees) scale issues (unusually large greens/bunkers, inconsistency in sizing, fairways being ultra narrow made them look even bigger) lots of buggy retaining wall sculpting (i cant blame you for trying, retaining walls are impossible to work with well) waterfall plane issues (black voids behind waterfalls) unintentional blindness (and preventable) on a lot of approach shots. minor sculpting issues throughout
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Post by mattf27 on Apr 10, 2021 11:48:03 GMT -5
Ross Bridge -Tour Course is obviously fine, but it should be ported instead of resubmitted.
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Post by mattyfromcanada on Apr 10, 2021 11:50:03 GMT -5
St Giles Point G.C, Ponte Tresa Resort G.C - Not Approved
General sculpting, surfacing, and hole design issues throughout. Unintentional blindness on many of the holes.
I'd reccomend checking out the CrazyCanuck1985 tutorials on YouTube for how to better use the design tools, and the B101tgc tutorials for hole strategies.
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