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Post by ritchieboyroy on Mar 31, 2021 0:05:23 GMT -5
Squaw Valley GC, Tahoe - Not Approved. This one is close, and looks to be a step up over the first course. It's just not quite ready for database yet. Still need work in places with the surfacing and sculpting.. and keep green sizes in mind for the shots required into them. The bones and design are nice.. just needs some fine tuning. Respectfully, it's hard to learn from these observations. I know tutorials are not a promised part of the approval process, but, could you give me any specific area that is triggering the surfacing / sculpting comment or hole # that caused the green size comment? I know these reviews are somewhat subjective but this is my 2nd with nearly nothing I can hang my hat on for future work. Feels like we are talking more preference than technical so that makes it tough. I accept what you said, but I'm just not getting it.
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Post by Q on Mar 31, 2021 0:36:27 GMT -5
Squaw Valley GC, Tahoe - Not Approved. This one is close, and looks to be a step up over the first course. It's just not quite ready for database yet. Still need work in places with the surfacing and sculpting.. and keep green sizes in mind for the shots required into them. The bones and design are nice.. just needs some fine tuning. Respectfully, it's hard to learn from these observations. I know tutorials are not a promised part of the approval process, but, could you give me any specific area that is triggering the surfacing / sculpting comment or hole # that caused the green size comment? I know these reviews are somewhat subjective but this is my 2nd with nearly nothing I can hang my hat on for future work. Feels like we are talking more preference than technical so that makes it tough. I accept what you said, but I'm just not getting it. I would read this LINK from our head reviewer with some rough suggestions on where you mightve gone wrong. The video on there is incredibly informative If you already have done so then I would recommend google maps! theres a measuring tool built into the program that allows you to measure literally everything you would want. I use it to measure real life golf courses to make sure my scaling isnt off ingame. Just on the first hole alone, I can tell the fairway is maybe 10-15 yards wide? In terms of technical problems the biggest I see are bunker issues. a lot of them are unnaturally lumpy or strange consistently throughout the course. I recommend CrazyCanuck1985s youtube channel as he has some great beginner tutorials on bunkers. I hope these recs can help you further improve! This designer is rarely intuitive so I understand the struggle of translating your ideas to the screen.
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Post by stubby3596 on Mar 31, 2021 11:44:23 GMT -5
Squaw Valley GC, Tahoe - Not Approved. This one is close, and looks to be a step up over the first course. It's just not quite ready for database yet. Still need work in places with the surfacing and sculpting.. and keep green sizes in mind for the shots required into them. The bones and design are nice.. just needs some fine tuning. Respectfully, it's hard to learn from these observations. I know tutorials are not a promised part of the approval process, but, could you give me any specific area that is triggering the surfacing / sculpting comment or hole # that caused the green size comment? I know these reviews are somewhat subjective but this is my 2nd with nearly nothing I can hang my hat on for future work. Feels like we are talking more preference than technical so that makes it tough. I accept what you said, but I'm just not getting it. Ritchie, I am not a reviewer nor a super experienced designer but I did just play the first 6 holes of your course and have uploaded a video for you with my thoughts. I will share it via a private message for you.
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Post by catcherman22 on Mar 31, 2021 23:15:58 GMT -5
18 Distinct Holes - Not Approved
It was definitely 18 distinct holes... but far to fantasy for the database. Also needs sculpting work all around and some fine touches. (Like how does one cross the canyon on 2 to get to the green?) Layout was fun to play.
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Post by weirsy2003 on Apr 1, 2021 12:44:04 GMT -5
Squaw Valley GC, Tahoe - Not Approved. This one is close, and looks to be a step up over the first course. It's just not quite ready for database yet. Still need work in places with the surfacing and sculpting.. and keep green sizes in mind for the shots required into them. The bones and design are nice.. just needs some fine tuning. Respectfully, it's hard to learn from these observations. I know tutorials are not a promised part of the approval process, but, could you give me any specific area that is triggering the surfacing / sculpting comment or hole # that caused the green size comment? I know these reviews are somewhat subjective but this is my 2nd with nearly nothing I can hang my hat on for future work. Feels like we are talking more preference than technical so that makes it tough. I accept what you said, but I'm just not getting it. Hey Ritchie, Glad to see you got this published. For your second published course I’d say you’ve come a long way in a short time and definitely have the ability to create great environments. I have, as always, detailed thoughts as to why I “think” this course was not approved to the TGC Tours database specifically which I’d be happy to share via message. I think the important thing to realize is that a not approved course course does not necessarily equal a judgment that a course sucks.
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Post by mctrees02 on Apr 2, 2021 15:25:43 GMT -5
The Hills of Granada - 18 - Not Approved
I"m going to assume this was Hills of Granada GC - 18 that you meant to submit. At any rate, this course is not approved due to bunker surfacing issues (brushing bunkers across fairways isn't a good look) as well as a lot of planting issues (plants in fairways and edges of greens).
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Post by bmdoc10 on Apr 2, 2021 17:28:37 GMT -5
Interesting. Thought I cleaned up the plants in fairways and greens. Some autogen stuff showed up when I went back through I deleted some heavy rough. Oh well. Only my 2nd course and figured I'd give submitting it a go. Thanks for taking a look at it.
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Post by b101 on Apr 3, 2021 13:52:37 GMT -5
Diabolus Mist G.C. - not approved
Major sculpting, surfacing and intrusive planting. See video below:
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Post by b101 on Apr 4, 2021 0:26:08 GMT -5
Royal Saguenay - not approved.
Lots of things mentioned in the video below - major surfacing (e.g. same fairway spline across a water hazard), sculpting (hole four leaps out) and planting encroaching into play. As a side note, I'd look at green sculpting and pin placement as the slopes made putting feel a lottery - flattening the slopes you've raised will really help here.
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Post by b101 on Apr 4, 2021 0:38:12 GMT -5
Poppintree Golf Club - not approved
It's not a million miles away, but the lack of bunker sculpting would be the main reason. Additionally, I'd suggest not blocking the view with planting as much on your opening tee shots and raising your default green speed.
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Post by b101 on Apr 4, 2021 0:44:32 GMT -5
Willowbrook Farms - not approved
Not far off. The ideas are there, but major sculpting and surfacing prevent approval - most notably the harsh slopes on some of the fairways and tiny greens on a few holes.
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Post by mctrees02 on Apr 4, 2021 6:55:07 GMT -5
Walukai Ocean Course - Not Approved. The course was submitted twice. The first submission will be reviewed shortly.
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Post by 15eicheltower9 on Apr 4, 2021 13:48:22 GMT -5
Squaw Creek GC (LiDAR)- Firstly that's not the course. The one created here is The Links at Squaw Creek. Those are 2 different courses in 2 different states.
This seems to be a straight Lidar with some planting added. Bunkers cut into some surfaces and were off in shape and size. Some unrecognizable from the pictures. Most could have used some touch-up sculpting. A bunker was added to the middle of the fairway on the 2nd? hole. Also a pretty big feature between 4 and 5 is the ob access road that was omitted.
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Post by 15eicheltower9 on Apr 4, 2021 14:00:22 GMT -5
Summit Springs
Sculpting in general was rough. Hole designs were questionable. I faced 4 90 degree doglegs in 7 holes and one was a par 3.
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Post by robn on Apr 4, 2021 14:44:14 GMT -5
It's like a riddle you see. I had a mate who played my course 1067 times without breaking par. I said, my friend, keep at it. Eventually the ball will randomly bounce in your favour enough times for you to break par, at which point, there will be much rejoicing.
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